Romans 6 reveals majestic glory that I once heavily overlooked. We are blessed.
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Jimbo43, why are you so sarcastic? It's such a fleshy thing, please cease from it. It's not love and it does not come from God.
If you and Peter were to see that you are brothers then maybe you could learn something from each other, rather than act as if one is perfect the other is not. But I admit you are the one acting more so in this case.
I say this in peace, humble yourselves.
If you and Peter were to see that you are brothers then maybe you could learn something from each other, rather than act as if one is perfect the other is not. But I admit you are the one acting more so in this case.
I say this in peace, humble yourselves.
We cannot attain sinless perfection while in the flesh,and we have a struggle between good and evil,but we can abstain from sin by the Spirit,but we still have the ability to sin if we want to sin.
If someone sins they are not of the devil,for all sin can be forgiven,for if we could not sin after receiving the Spirit or we would be lost,who would make it.
It is not doing a sin,and then giving it up and honestly meaning it,but it is holding unto sin and not letting it go,that is the problem.
If someone fornicates and then give it up,and honestly means it,and God knows the heart,it can be forgiven and off their record,and not a child of God,for they sinned,and let it go,but if they sin and fornicate,ask for forgiveness for doing the act,but not let it go knowing they will do it again,then they are in trouble,and the Bible says they would look for judgment upon them that would be sorer punishment than they received in the Old Testament.
A person can sin,and give it up,and mean it,and the sin is off their record,but they cannot hold unto a sin and not give it up,for then it is on their record,which is why the Bible says if we sin willfully after receiving the truth,there is no more sacrifice for sin,which means if you hold unto a sin,and will not let it go the blood of Christ cannot wash it away,for you will not give it up.
We can sin and not let it go for a year and still be forgiven for it,for anytime we mean it we do not want sin,and give it up,it is forgiven,but if we hold unto a sin and will not give it up,it cannot be forgiven,for how can you be forgiven when you will not let it go,which some have a form of godliness,but deny the power thereof,lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God,ever learning and never able to come to the truth that they have to be led of the Spirit,and abstain from sin,which when they cannot dwell with Jesus,He will say,you were workers of iniquity.
To tell the truth,for a person to honestly live for God by the Spirit,their time and resources would only be spent on whatever pertains to the kingdom of God,which is more strict than people realize,and God said whatever your right hand finds to do,do it with all your might.
It would be like a person living in isolation,a 1000 miles away from any person,and technology,having only shelter,and only thinking about the kingdom of God,and Jesus,and nothing else.
It is that strict,which if a person could not sin after receiving the Spirit,or they would be lost,who would make it.
We cannot attain sinless perfection because we are in the flesh,and have a war between good and evil,and the only way we can attain to sinless perfection is to be separated from the flesh,and be with Jesus,but we can abstain from sin by the Spirit,but we will still be tempted to sin,and if we do sin it can be forgiven if we honestly give it up not wanting it.
As long as there is a war of good and evil that we battle we cannot attain sinless perfection,for sinless perfection does not have that battle,but can only do good with no alternative to do evil.When we are with Jesus we will only do good with no alternative to do evil,but not on this earth in the flesh,and there is no good thing that dwells in the flesh.
Gal 2:11 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.
Gal 2:12 For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.
Gal 2:13 And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.
Gal 2:14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?
Rev 21:14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
This is Peter who was given the keys to the kingdom having a problem for like 14 years of not walking uprightly according to the truth of the Gospel,but we know Peter is saved,because His name is written on a foundation of the wall at the New Jerusalem,as well as all the apostles.
If it can happen to Peter,it can happen to someone else,and Peter did have the Spirit,but Peter let go of any sin that he did,and was forgiven,as well as all saints that have the Spirit.
If someone sins they are not of the devil,for all sin can be forgiven,for if we could not sin after receiving the Spirit or we would be lost,who would make it.
It is not doing a sin,and then giving it up and honestly meaning it,but it is holding unto sin and not letting it go,that is the problem.
If someone fornicates and then give it up,and honestly means it,and God knows the heart,it can be forgiven and off their record,and not a child of God,for they sinned,and let it go,but if they sin and fornicate,ask for forgiveness for doing the act,but not let it go knowing they will do it again,then they are in trouble,and the Bible says they would look for judgment upon them that would be sorer punishment than they received in the Old Testament.
A person can sin,and give it up,and mean it,and the sin is off their record,but they cannot hold unto a sin and not give it up,for then it is on their record,which is why the Bible says if we sin willfully after receiving the truth,there is no more sacrifice for sin,which means if you hold unto a sin,and will not let it go the blood of Christ cannot wash it away,for you will not give it up.
We can sin and not let it go for a year and still be forgiven for it,for anytime we mean it we do not want sin,and give it up,it is forgiven,but if we hold unto a sin and will not give it up,it cannot be forgiven,for how can you be forgiven when you will not let it go,which some have a form of godliness,but deny the power thereof,lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God,ever learning and never able to come to the truth that they have to be led of the Spirit,and abstain from sin,which when they cannot dwell with Jesus,He will say,you were workers of iniquity.
To tell the truth,for a person to honestly live for God by the Spirit,their time and resources would only be spent on whatever pertains to the kingdom of God,which is more strict than people realize,and God said whatever your right hand finds to do,do it with all your might.
It would be like a person living in isolation,a 1000 miles away from any person,and technology,having only shelter,and only thinking about the kingdom of God,and Jesus,and nothing else.
It is that strict,which if a person could not sin after receiving the Spirit,or they would be lost,who would make it.
We cannot attain sinless perfection because we are in the flesh,and have a war between good and evil,and the only way we can attain to sinless perfection is to be separated from the flesh,and be with Jesus,but we can abstain from sin by the Spirit,but we will still be tempted to sin,and if we do sin it can be forgiven if we honestly give it up not wanting it.
As long as there is a war of good and evil that we battle we cannot attain sinless perfection,for sinless perfection does not have that battle,but can only do good with no alternative to do evil.When we are with Jesus we will only do good with no alternative to do evil,but not on this earth in the flesh,and there is no good thing that dwells in the flesh.
Gal 2:11 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.
Gal 2:12 For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.
Gal 2:13 And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.
Gal 2:14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?
Rev 21:14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
This is Peter who was given the keys to the kingdom having a problem for like 14 years of not walking uprightly according to the truth of the Gospel,but we know Peter is saved,because His name is written on a foundation of the wall at the New Jerusalem,as well as all the apostles.
If it can happen to Peter,it can happen to someone else,and Peter did have the Spirit,but Peter let go of any sin that he did,and was forgiven,as well as all saints that have the Spirit.
Jesus did say you must be perfect like your father in heaven is perfect. We cannot pretend this wasn't written in the bible, although sometimes I feel people reject what they don't want to think about or understand. Although this statement makes one thing clear, that it is possible. And it is possible, because everything is possible with God is it not? And if you believe in Jesus like you might say you do, then won't you listen to this part of what he said?
One factor correlates both side of arguments with the word and that is 'time'. Flesh processes things based on a perception of time, the 'has been', 'is now', 'will be', 'beginning', 'ending', 'forever', 'never'.
If for the last 5 minutes I had been without sin, no sinful thoughts or actions, then would I have not been sinless in that 5 minutes, and if I continued, would I not be sinless now?
What people often think when someone says they have found purity, is they attach time to it. They think you are saying you are sinless forever and ever. And yet they added that. They think that you put yourself above Jesus or God. They added that. They think you have an evil agenda. They have the evil rising up in them, and they will target you to hide themselves. I've seen it time and time again.
After all does not evil attack that which is pure, or that which seeks purity?
SpiritLed, who am I to judge if you managed to be sinless for a prolonged state of time. Keep it up, I hope it lasts a lifetime. I hope you do good with it if indeed it is true. Only you know if it is true, because it is your own path. And is it not love, to say that I hope it is true for you, that I hope you do good, that you remain close to God, that you find your own perfection through the example of Jesus, and the sacrifices he made for us?
What I won't do, is goad you, or try to bring you down, make you fail, make you doubt yourself, accuse you, condemn you, throw stones at you. Whoever does this to their fellow man? Are we not supposed to love our neighbours, which is a law above all other laws? And when the time comes, and when people need to do so, do people practise that?
One factor correlates both side of arguments with the word and that is 'time'. Flesh processes things based on a perception of time, the 'has been', 'is now', 'will be', 'beginning', 'ending', 'forever', 'never'.
If for the last 5 minutes I had been without sin, no sinful thoughts or actions, then would I have not been sinless in that 5 minutes, and if I continued, would I not be sinless now?
What people often think when someone says they have found purity, is they attach time to it. They think you are saying you are sinless forever and ever. And yet they added that. They think that you put yourself above Jesus or God. They added that. They think you have an evil agenda. They have the evil rising up in them, and they will target you to hide themselves. I've seen it time and time again.
After all does not evil attack that which is pure, or that which seeks purity?
SpiritLed, who am I to judge if you managed to be sinless for a prolonged state of time. Keep it up, I hope it lasts a lifetime. I hope you do good with it if indeed it is true. Only you know if it is true, because it is your own path. And is it not love, to say that I hope it is true for you, that I hope you do good, that you remain close to God, that you find your own perfection through the example of Jesus, and the sacrifices he made for us?
What I won't do, is goad you, or try to bring you down, make you fail, make you doubt yourself, accuse you, condemn you, throw stones at you. Whoever does this to their fellow man? Are we not supposed to love our neighbours, which is a law above all other laws? And when the time comes, and when people need to do so, do people practise that?
I am not a sinless perfection person.
I am not a nut.
So where is your sense or truth, or integrity or honour?
How well you can walk you discover everyday. Everything else is just theory.
It is why preachers can preach and fail to live it, and often get away with it.
It is also why it is odd when people claim to be failed sinners, incapable of
being loving and caring for others, yet hold the idea they are following Christ.
It is like saying a sinner stays a sinner, and Christ does not change or transform
them, and righteousness and love are just an illusion, because we are only human,
doomed to sin and be lost forever.
I am not a nut.
So where is your sense or truth, or integrity or honour?
How well you can walk you discover everyday. Everything else is just theory.
It is why preachers can preach and fail to live it, and often get away with it.
It is also why it is odd when people claim to be failed sinners, incapable of
being loving and caring for others, yet hold the idea they are following Christ.
It is like saying a sinner stays a sinner, and Christ does not change or transform
them, and righteousness and love are just an illusion, because we are only human,
doomed to sin and be lost forever.
Now this is where you leave me scratching my head.
Pride. I follow my Lord, I succeed and I fail. I repent, and I walk on.
I boast in Christ alone and His work. I seek to serve and help.
Yet here you say I have pride. I am an unworthy sinner who Christ lavished
His love on my soul, and brought me into the light.
I would hope every follow of Christ would testify of the same thing and not
be ashamed of proclaiming His great love.
Jim if it helps you, I forgive you for whatever you feel you have done sinful
against me, God bless you.
Pride. I follow my Lord, I succeed and I fail. I repent, and I walk on.
I boast in Christ alone and His work. I seek to serve and help.
Yet here you say I have pride. I am an unworthy sinner who Christ lavished
His love on my soul, and brought me into the light.
I would hope every follow of Christ would testify of the same thing and not
be ashamed of proclaiming His great love.
Jim if it helps you, I forgive you for whatever you feel you have done sinful
against me, God bless you.
Neither did Jesus say it was impossible. I prefer to be glass half full perspective of sustenance. I think those are often the two sides of any argument really with people. Glass half full, glass half empty, both exactly the same, we are the same, and yet somehow an argument is made on different perspective, rather than appreciation of differing opinions. 
Amen and the word perfect does not mean perfect in the sense we make it to be...the word means complete.....not SINLESS.....again the scriptures are rejected......
IF we say we have NO SIN we are deceived and the TRUTH IS NOT IN US!
TO HAVE the TRUTH and NOT BE DECEIVED YOU MUST ADMIT you still HAVE SIN...IE THE FALLEN BODY OF SIN (FLESH) which one will have UNTIL they DIE or are changed at the RESURRECTION/CHANGE!
IF we say we have NO SIN we are deceived and the TRUTH IS NOT IN US!
TO HAVE the TRUTH and NOT BE DECEIVED YOU MUST ADMIT you still HAVE SIN...IE THE FALLEN BODY OF SIN (FLESH) which one will have UNTIL they DIE or are changed at the RESURRECTION/CHANGE!
So Jesus calls us to love our enemies as our Perfect Father does, and you believe loving
your enemies is impossible? Do you know the nature of love and the Christ dying on the
cross for you? How is your enemy any different from you, or any more worthy of condemnation?
We are all forgiven sinners, who were lost and who have now found eternal life and love in
Christ. But maybe the words are said, but some do not actually experience it for themselves.
Now if you have lived in a family who did not know how to express love, you will know the
overwhelming grace and love the Lord showers on you and how it changes ones life.
But I have often missed this testimony from some members of certain groups, which I do find
surprising, as they claim to know Christ much better than me, and have even banned me from
praying for them, in Jesus Christs name, which also is very surprising, as if you have to qualify
to pray to God...
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Neither did Jesus say it was impossible. I prefer to be glass half full perspective of sustenance. I think those are often the two sides of any argument really with people. Glass half full, glass half empty, both exactly the same, we are the same, and yet somehow an argument is made on different perspective, rather than appreciation of differing opinions.
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