Should women be silent in church and wear head coverings?

[kaylagrl]

You should read that book by Robison..I think it is 1792 or 1798 that it was published. It is on the internet...and then decide whether or not to believe. As regards abortion, forgive me if I take offense in the "both are sins" business. That is used (by others) to equivalate homosexuality to other sins. Sodom and Gomorrah proved that although any sin will separate from God, some are WORSE. Abortion is worse than the other stuff.

As far as TV is concerned, I think modern television cannot be tolerated in any sense by Christians. I have no TV in my home. I have seen old movies and stuff, used to think they were OK...I still think they CAN be OK..but my study of them has proven that the communists were in there even in the old days. I would not say that someone who watched old TV shows cannot be a Christian, however, I know for a fact that even the old stuff is intentionally stuffed with subversive themes. And if I am at someone else's house and they are watching old TV, it becomes increasingly obvious what those themes are. And yet others don't even notice or think it is wholesome.

We;d both agree abortion is murder. As far as homosexuality compared to other sins that is an argument you'll never win here,Ive dropped it.

I have tv, but news is on all day because things are happening so quickly. I really haven't found a good news source to trust. Fox use to be pretty good but now is leaning left and I believe will go further. I agree there is not much else to watch. At least they have some of the old shows still on tv,that surprises me.Id have thought anything that talked about morals would have been axed by now.

 

[pete9]

We;d both agree abortion is murder. As far as homosexuality compared to other sins that is an argument you'll never win here,Ive dropped it.

I have tv, but news is on all day because things are happening so quickly. I really haven't found a good news source to trust. Fox use to be pretty good but now is leaning left and I believe will go further. I agree there is not much else to watch. At least they have some of the old shows still on tv,that surprises me.Id have thought anything that talked about morals would have been axed by now.

Fox is run by Murdock, who I believe had leftist media in Europe and righty over here. He is just one of the regular folks, gaming the public. It is controlled-opposition to the left. If it was really good, THEY would never allow it on TV. As regards the old shows that are on, check out this interview: https://archive.org/details/pdfy-TmWlwCRIyvcIfa5W I think you will find it fascinating. Somewhere in there, it talks about the old TV shows coming back on. This is an interview from the 80s about events that happened many years earlier..

 

[PennEd]

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Now THAT'S a match made in heaven.

 

[Locutus]

 

[kaylagrl]

Fox is run by Murdock, who I believe had leftist media in Europe and righty over here. He is just one of the regular folks, gaming the public. It is controlled-opposition to the left. If it was really good, THEY would never allow it on TV. As regards the old shows that are on, check out this interview: https://archive.org/details/pdfy-TmWlwCRIyvcIfa5W I think you will find it fascinating. Somewhere in there, it talks about the old TV shows coming back on. This is an interview from the 80s about events that happened many years earlier..

Other than Fox I see nothing else to get news from.Ive heard rumors that a conservative news network is the works but who knows. I'll check the link. Have you hear of the documentary "Agenda-the Grinding Down of America?" Any thoughts.

 

[pete9]

Women who want to speak or teach in church do it, don't hesitate because of men pride, Anna was prophetess and a speaker in church, so can women today can be as well.

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36There was also a prophetess named Anna, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Asher, who was well along in years. She had been married for seven years, 37and then was a widow to the age of eighty-four. She never left the temple, but worshiped night and day, fasting and praying. 38Coming forward at that moment, she gave thanks to God and spoke about the Child to all who were waiting for the redemption of Jerusalem.…

The question is why so many women, particularly in America, WANT to. It is like a craving. Like something that they feel is kept away from them, and they want it, like the demanding of respect. Do you see men with this craving? Did this craving exist prior to the age of enlightenment? Was the fulfillment of such a craving satisfied or blamed on the Holy Spirit? Beware before you blame your feelings and wants on the Holy Spirit. Many people, including heathen, feel drawn to do stuff. It does not mean it is the Holy Spirit telling you to do it.

"A woman..whose hands are tied"

Doesn't sound like the Holy Spirit to me. Sounds more like the spirit of 1776 and the spirit of feminism. Christianity is not about gratifying an individual's pride.

 

[pete9]

Other than Fox I see nothing else to get news from.Ive heard rumors that a conservative news network is the works but who knows. I'll check the link. Have you hear of the documentary "Agenda-the Grinding Down of America?" Any thoughts.

I have not heard of the documentary. It would be nice if someone could compile a collection of documentaries that expose the plans for the future, so that Christians can have a one stop shop and WAKE UP. I believe that no real news channel would be permitted to broadcast to the public. The agenda which the world has been set to complete, would be destroyed if people knew the truth. It is like when Janet Jackson exposed herself on the superbowl. Of course they were "powerless" to stop it, right? But you won't see a peep of anything that exposes the true corruption that is going on..not even for a split second.

 

[BeyondET]

The question is why so many women, particularly in America, WANT to. It is like a craving. Like something that they feel is kept away from them, and they want it, like the demanding of respect. Do you see men with this craving? Did this craving exist prior to the age of enlightenment? Was the fulfillment of such a craving satisfied or blamed on the Holy Spirit? Beware before you blame your feelings and wants on the Holy Spirit. Many people, including heathen, feel drawn to do stuff. It does not mean it is the Holy Spirit telling you to do it.

"A woman..whose hands are tied"

Doesn't sound like the Holy Spirit to me. Sounds more like the spirit of 1776 and the spirit of feminism. Christianity is not about gratifying an individual's pride.

I don't blame them for being that way, for God sake per man's idea, women have been suppress since the beginning of time.

It wasn't until 1920 women were aloud to vote, I'm a man but right now I'm completely ashamed of my fellow man for this junk.

That's quite ok, things will creep up on them like a thief in the night.

 

[Dino246]

I notice that once again, a male has made a thread reminding females what the Bible says to women, as though they were unable to read it for themselves and need his "learned" restating. Perhaps such men should focus on obeying God's word to them first.

 

[pete9]

I don't blame them for being that way, for God sake per man's idea, women have been suppress since the beginning of time.

It wasn't until 1920 women were aloud to vote, I'm a man but right now I'm completely ashamed of my fellow man for this junk.

That's quite ok, things will creep up on them like a thief in the night.

The feminist movement was all about enslaving women, tricking them with pride. Now instead of them raising up and influencing their own children, the give their children to the government and babysitters... Instead of freedom, now they get to slave at jobs all day and pay their taxes. Instead of being the love of their husbands, they have been trained to be competition.

What did the feminists give us? "Free love"? Freedom from the shackles of morality? STDs and abortion? Think about it!!

 

[pete9]

I notice that once again, a male has made a thread reminding females what the Bible says to women, as though they were unable to read it for themselves and need his "learned" restating. Perhaps such men should focus on obeying God's word to them first.

I started the thread to see how many brazen "scholars" would go with the ways of the 20th century western world, in total contempt of the Holy Bible, for the sake of egos or brainwashing. Clearly, some are unable to read it for themselves.

And for my sake, I wouldn't take religious advice from those types (or yourself) for anything in the world..

 

[stonesoffire]

Theres two sides to that tree of knowledge and neither is "good". Only God is good.

This tree is not even in the same "category" as the tree of life.

Both natural man and woman of the world spirit is wrong. It has affected Christianity, I will give this thread that. But, not just women...men too.

 

[Magenta]

What did the feminists give us? "Free love"? Freedom from the shackles of morality? STDs and abortion? Think about it!!

Men promoted that so they could have their physical needs met free of any responsibility.

 

[BeyondET]

The feminist movement was all about enslaving women, tricking them with pride. Now instead of them raising up and influencing their own children, the give their children to the government and babysitters... Instead of freedom, now they get to slave at jobs all day and pay their taxes. Instead of being the love of their husbands, they have been trained to be competition.

What did the feminists give us? "Free love"? Freedom from the shackles of morality? STDs and abortion? Think about it!!

This is what I think about, there are far more deadbeat fathers in this world than deadbeat mothers, fathers who have fathered children who don't stand up and be a man and take care of their wives and children. So the women has to slave all day long at jobs and seek government support to house and feed the children while the men run around being idiots, that is reality And I have to pay taxes for all these deadbeat fathers.

 

[pete9]

Men promoted that so they could have their physical needs met free of any responsibility.

It is true that the feminist movement was started and run by men...those men were not concerned with their physical needs. They, with all of their money, had everyone around to do whatever they wanted. The root of it was documented more than a century before. Research Rockefeller and the feminist movement.

Saying that "men" (generally speaking) did stuff..well, that's just silly.

I think it was Zen that said something about there being more women going to the flames.
I find myself wondering...will it be all of those millions of women from 100AD to 1800 who refused to follow the commands of "the Holy Spirit" to speak up in church? And who refused to tear off their head coverings and wear crew cuts?

 

[Zen]

O boy so what was it that he didn't find among all those well to get the picture in verse before the preacher didn't find a woman with snares and nets who's hands are tied


23 I tested all this wisdom, and I said, “I will be wise,” but it was far from me.
24What has been is remote and exceedingly mysterious. Who can discover it?
25I directed my mind to know, to investigate and to seek wisdom and an explanation, and to know the evil of folly and the foolishness of madness.
26And I discovered more bitter than death the woman whose heart is snares and nets, whose hands are chains. One who is pleasing to God will escape from her, but the sinner will be captured by her.

27“Behold, I have discovered this,” says the Preacher, “adding one thing to another to find an explanation, 28which I am still seeking but have not found. I have found one man among a thousand, but I have not found a woman among all these.


Men have sought out many devices to claim that women have no place teaching in church in a nut shell


29“Behold, I have found only this, that God made men upright, but they have sought out many devices.”

God's scripture isn't a device.

What did David and Solomon seek? Wisdom and understanding in men and women, righteous people. He only found it in men.

 

[pete9]

This is what I think about, there are far more deadbeat fathers in this world than deadbeat mothers, fathers who have fathered children who don't stand up and be a man and take care of their wives and children. So the women has to slave all day long at jobs and seek government support to house and feed the children while the men run around being idiots, that is reality And I have to pay taxes for all these deadbeat fathers.

Well, look at the "bright" side. 42 USC 666 (13) says that it is for the sake of the children getting child support that no one is to have civil rights without a SSN.

 

[Magenta]

Saying that "men" (generally speaking) did stuff..well, that's just silly.

LOL. Saying women did stuff, well, according to you, then, that's just silly, and yet it is your position. Ridiculous. Eve was deceived but ADAM sinned willfully. Put that in your pipe and smoke it

 

[loveme1]

Legalism... so many preach against it.... Mary wiped our Messiah's feet with her hair...

 

[CS1]

please try to make them be quiet and get back to me on that those of you who are married LOL