Should women be silent in church and wear head coverings?

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Should women be silent in church and wear head coverings?

  • Yes

    Votes: 7 22.6%
  • No

    Votes: 19 61.3%
  • If they have long hair, they can skip the head covering.

    Votes: 5 16.1%

  • Total voters
    31

stonesoffire

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#81
How did Jesus treat women? Think about it. And we are His very own body.
 

1ofthem

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#82
What's curious is that I don't find a need to speak in church, even though I'm a man. And many men like wearing hats, but certainly take them off when going into church.

And so I think this issue shows that the illuminatus have manipulated the western women, just as they said they intended to. For naughty women are offended at the notion that they can't do something that men do..and so they WANT to speak in church.. And even though they like clothes and outfits and any excuse to have some more or use them, they DON'T want to cover their heads. Think about it.
I don't like talking in church and I am usually as quite as a church mouse there, but sometimes I have felt the Lord urge me to testify about some experience or something that I have went through in life. I really am shy in church and have a hard time making myself do it...but afterwards, I have people come up to me and tell me that my testimony really helped them because they were going through something similar and they needed the encouragement.

I don't testify very often, only when I feel the Lord urging me to do so. I'm not shy in public, but I have a hard time speaking in church. People from church with have told me that if I don't testify when the Lord moves on me to do so, then I am sinning because I am not being obedient to God.

So I am just curious as to what you think about this...Do you think that it is wrong for a woman to testify in church, even if it helps to encourage someone else?
 
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pete9

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#83
No, it's actually from a dream I had last night. I never heard of it before. And I am far from a feminist. I love my husband and I do submit to his authority. The thing is he gives me equal status with him. He is secure.
Look it up on the internet. I hope that guy from..down south..is not affecting your dreams.

I will also admit that I'm not sure how "authority" and "equal status" work hand in hand. Or what that has to do with him being "secure". I think of feminism, because the notion that men want to control women because they are not secure, is a psychological notion of the feminists.
 

stonesoffire

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#84
Look it up on the internet. I hope that guy from..down south..is not affecting your dreams.

I will also admit that I'm not sure how "authority" and "equal status" work hand in hand. Or what that has to do with him being "secure". I mentioned feminism, because the notion that men want to control women because they are not secure, is a psychological notion of the feminists.
It works this way. We discuss and usually come to an agreement. If not, we go with His.

Comprehend please...because of lust and guilt. Not "not secure". I said he is secure in his walk with Jesus. He loves.
 
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pete9

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#85
I don't like talking in church and I am usually as quite as a church mouse there, but sometimes I have felt the Lord urge me to testify about some experience or something that I have went through in life. I really am shy in church and have a hard time making myself do it...but afterwards, I have people come up to me and tell me that my testimony really helped them because they were going through something similar and they needed the encouragement.

I don't testify very often, only when I feel the Lord urging me to do so. I'm not shy in public, but I have a hard time speaking in church. People from church with have told me that if I don't testify when the Lord moves on me to do so, then I am sinning because I am not being obedient to God.

So I am just curious as to what you think about this...Do you think that it is wrong for a woman to testify in church, even if it helps to encourage someone else?
My thoughts are just what the Bible says. It says for women to be silent in church. Maybe you can talk to others after it? It is hard to believe it is the spirit of the Lord telling you to do the opposite of what the Bible explicitly states.
 
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Life43144

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#86
The bible is pretty clear on this matter, everyone knows the different verses that apply. The veil physical has disappeared in North America for the most part as well as dress codes in some cases.
The majority of the churches in Europe still use the veil from my understanding. I lived in Rome for a year and I can say that for 99% of them. They just obey scripture on that point and that custom is followed by the churches there.
I guess I can add .....in the end it's a women's responsibility before God how she'll respond to those verses...but the church has had its part in this.
 
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kaylagrl

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#87
"Im still not clear what you are saying about Hollywood. What does "drink from the poison cup" mean.And while we're at it,do you believe in the Illuminati?"

What I'm saying is that I hope you don't watch it and then preach to others.
As regards the illuminatus, I'm not sure what you mean by "believe in". Their existence is a historical fact. Karl Marx, etc. If you have not seen the fruits of their labors, you have scales afore your eyes.

"We have no disagreement that abortion is murder and a blood stain on the hands or America and both abortion and FGM is a sin before God."

But for the abortion, the victims are clearly more numerous and end up completely dead. And it is right here, so one doesn't have to go across the ocean to find it.



​No,I dont believe in Illuminati, but I do believe there are those behind the scenes in America pushing the agenda of socialism/communism. I watched a documentary not long ago that confirms this even more to me and opened my eyes to a lot of things.To your second point I believe I understand,you do not watch tv. if Im wrong there let me know.

I'll state again ,100% against abortion. Both are sins before God. I still support missions putting their life on the line to spread the Gospel. Many talk about the ills of society,few do anything about it.
 
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pete9

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#88
Comprehend please...because of lust and guilt..
I'm not sure exactly what you are trying to say..you said "men of religious thinking".. or something about trying to control women..

I am just talking about the rules that the Bible provides for us. Which says that women are to have their head covered, that they should have long hair (if possible, clearly)...long hair looks nice. Some people think makeup looks nice, though the Bible only suggests that it is bad. So I'm not sure I'm following you.
 

1ofthem

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My thoughts are just what the Bible says. It says for women to be silent in church. Maybe you can talk to others after it? It is hard to believe it is the spirit of the Lord telling you to do the opposite of what the Bible explicitly states.
Every church I have ever been to has testimony time after the preaching while the service is still going on, and everyone is encouraged to testify. Some places I have been to they will even call your name out if you don't testify. They say that everyone in church has something to do and no one should be coming there to just sit on the pews....They use that scripture about the body of Christ to say that we all got something to do while there, and that we all have something to be thankful for so we all should have a testimony.
 
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Life43144

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#91
I think by "silent", the apostle means under obedience. According to Elliot's commentary.
 
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pete9

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#92
​No,I dont believe in Illuminati, but I do believe there are those behind the scenes in America pushing the agenda of socialism/communism. I watched a documentary not long ago that confirms this even more to me and opened my eyes to a lot of things.To your second point I believe I understand,you do not watch tv. if Im wrong there let me know.

I'll state again ,100% against abortion. Both are sins before God. I still support missions putting their life on the line to spread the Gospel. Many talk about the ills of society,few do anything about it.
You should read that book by Robison..I think it is 1792 or 1798 that it was published. It is on the internet...and then decide whether or not to believe. As regards abortion, forgive me if I take offense in the "both are sins" business. That is used (by others) to equivalate homosexuality to other sins. Sodom and Gomorrah proved that although any sin will separate from God, some are WORSE. Abortion is worse than the other stuff.

As far as TV is concerned, I think modern television cannot be tolerated in any sense by Christians. I have no TV in my home. I have seen old movies and stuff, used to think they were OK...I still think they CAN be OK..but my study of them has proven that the communists were in there even in the old days. I would not say that someone who watched old TV shows cannot be a Christian, however, I know for a fact that even the old stuff is intentionally stuffed with subversive themes. And if I am at someone else's house and they are watching old TV, it becomes increasingly obvious what those themes are. And yet others don't even notice or think it is wholesome.
 

Magenta

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#93
As far as TV is concerned, I think modern television cannot be tolerated in any sense by Christians. I have no TV in my home. I have seen old movies and stuff, used to think they were OK...I still think they CAN be OK..but my study of them has proven that the communists were in there even in the old days. I would not say that someone who watched old TV shows cannot be a Christian, however, I know for a fact that even the old stuff is intentionally stuffed with subversive themes. And if I am at someone else's house and they are watching old TV, it becomes increasingly obvious what those themes are. And yet others don't even notice or think it is wholesome.
If you watch it with awareness of that fact, how can it be bad? Being aware of something does not mean you are going to be won over by it.
 
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wwjd_kilden

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#94
​No,I dont believe in Illuminati, but I do believe there are those behind the scenes in America pushing the agenda of socialism/communism. I watched a documentary not long ago that confirms this even more to me and opened my eyes to a lot of things.To your second point I believe I understand,you do not watch tv. if Im wrong there let me know.

Careful now, comparing the two is insulting to both groups
(Really, it is not the same thing, and families were torn apart over it when the USSR still existed)
 
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Life43144

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#95
I think testimony time is good, but you should not be forced. 1 Corinthians 11:15 says, that a women is permitted pray or prophecy with her head covered. I Paul's days that meant a veil and under obedience.
 
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#96
Love to chat all day about how women should be barefoot, quiet, and pregnant, but I just got a request from THE crown Prince of Nigeria!

I need to go to the bank so I can give him all my money for his baking powder project, or something like that.

Adios!
Hey, he told me it was "lucrative." And he sure put a lot of work into that PM, so I think I will invest at least 100k.
 
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pete9

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#97
Modern Hollywood is so loathsome that a Christian cannot choose to let it into their eyes and ears. The language, the debased women (how do feminists put up with it?) the Lord's name in vain constantly (on purpose)..

The violence..shooting people is now "G" rated.. I saw some TNT or something when I was in a pizza place, heads being shot and blood shooting out.. It is just not tolerable for decent people to choose to watch that stuff.

I just say..trust me..if it is not an addiction, turn it off for just 6 months. When you go back to it, you will be shocked. If you stop watching it entirely for a couple of years, I guarantee that it will make you want to vomit when it turns back on. You will feel sick to your soul. Hollywood is controlled by those who use every means possible..psychologists, mainly, to convert the country to a godless commie hades.
 
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pete9

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If you watch it with awareness of that fact, how can it be bad? Being aware of something does not mean you are going to be won over by it.
If it is bad, and you know it is bad, how can you want to indulge in it?
 
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NoNameMcgee

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Hey, he told me it was "lucrative." And he sure put a lot of work into that PM, so I think I will invest at least 100k.
im going to pm you about a bridge im selling:rolleyes:
 

Magenta

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Hey, he told me it was "lucrative." And he sure put a lot of work into that PM, so I think I will invest at least 100k.
I did not bother reading mine. I just reported it after scrolling and scrolling and scrolling and scrolling to get to the bottom of the message where the report button is :p