Should women be silent in church and wear head coverings?

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Should women be silent in church and wear head coverings?

  • Yes

    Votes: 7 22.6%

  • No

    Votes: 19 61.3%

  • If they have long hair, they can skip the head covering.

    Votes: 5 16.1%
  • Total voters
    31
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pete9

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wwjd_kilden said:
Careful now, comparing the two is insulting to both groups
(Really, it is not the same thing, and families were torn apart over it when the USSR still existed)
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"[Socialism] is the dictatorship of the proletariat Marx defined as the necessary stepping stone on the evolutionary path to Communism..."

"The goal of socialism is communism." - Vladimir Lenin

Socialism is a trick. FDR's socialism was sooo good, see where we are headed. Do you think the future looks like freedom? It is a trick from Satan!
 
Dan58

Dan58

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Its important to understand that in 1 Corinthians 14, Paul was writing to a disruptive church in Corinth. The meetings were chaos, everyone speaking at once, and in different languages with no interpreters. Paul wrote; "If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let one interpret. But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church" (1 Corinthians 14:27-28). So Paul told the men to keep quiet prior to telling the women. I believe Paul was trying to encourage an atmosphere of learning instead of confusion. Paul wrote; "Let all things be done unto edifying.. for God is not the author of confusion.. Let all things be done decently and in order" (vs 26,33,&40). So it seems evident that Paul was trying to eliminate everyone talking at once because the chatter and questions were disruptive. Even today, imagine that if everyone talked at once in a service, the primary speaker could not be heard. "For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn" (1 Corinthians 14:31)

"For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head, because of the angels" (1 Corinthians 11:10). The significance of a woman's long hair is that its representative of Christ (power), a sign of authority. Its a glory to her (vs 15) because it covers her against the angels (Genesis 6:2). jmo.
 
Magenta

Magenta

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NoNameMcgee

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#104
Magenta said:
But hey did you sign up for that free thousand dollar credit card that was being offered on a limited time basis for a one time fee of two hundred and fifty dollars and access to your computer? Such a good deal. Oh yeah MopDeal! Or was it DealMop. The thread is prolly gone by now...
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lol

ohhh snap its gone?

that sounds like a steal
 
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pete9

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#105
3But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. 4Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head. 5But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven. 6For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered. 7For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. 8For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. 9Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. 10For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels. 11Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord. 12For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God. 13Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered? 14Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? 15But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering. 16But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.

Men UNCOVER their heads, women COVER them. There is the verse in context. This is what the churches of God do, other churches, do as ye wish.
 
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BeyondET

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Well Paul rebuke Peter at one point, now it's time to rebuke Pauls stinking thinking, yo knuckle head haven't you read Luke 2:37 dear Paul! Of coarse not that hadn't been written yet, but there was accounts about it already written, most of what the four dudes where writing on was copies of copies of account already written by other people, the four gospel wasn't some new writings but were already around.

1 Cor 14:37
King James Bible
If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

In Luke clearly Anna was a prophetees and came forward and spoke about the child to who? ALL of the people waiting for redemption.

Luke 2:36-38
36There was also a prophetess named Anna, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Asher, who was well along in years. She had been married for seven years, 37and then was a widow to the age of eighty-four. She never left the temple, but worshiped night and day, fasting and praying. 38Coming forward at that moment, she gave thanks to God and spoke about the Child to all who were waiting for the redemption of Jerusalem.…
 
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Zen

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They should, but they won't.

Most people in the lake of fire will probably be female.
 
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Magenta said:
But hey did you sign up for that free thousand dollar credit card that was being offered on a limited time basis for a one time fee of two hundred and fifty dollars and access to your computer? Such a good deal. Oh yeah MopDeal! Or was it DealMop. The thread is prolly gone by now...
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I did!
I'm going shopping!!!! :D
 
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TemporaryCircumstances

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Yayyyy Zens here!!!
 
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TemporaryCircumstances

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I actually would love to wear a hair covering
the problem is my family would kill me lol
 
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BeyondET

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Women who want to speak or teach in church do it, don't hesitate because of men pride, Anna was prophetess and a speaker in church, so can women today can be as well.

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36There was also a prophetess named Anna, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Asher, who was well along in years. She had been married for seven years, 37and then was a widow to the age of eighty-four. She never left the temple, but worshiped night and day, fasting and praying. 38Coming forward at that moment, she gave thanks to God and spoke about the Child to all who were waiting for the redemption of Jerusalem.…
 
Zen

Zen

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Ecclesiastes 7:
[SUP]27 [/SUP]Behold, this have I found, saith the preacher, counting one by one, to find out the account:
[SUP]28 [/SUP]Which yet my soul seeketh, but I find not: one man among a thousand have I found; but a woman among all those have I not found.
 
Magenta

Magenta

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NoNameMcgee said:
lol

ohhh snap its gone?

that sounds like a steal
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Yes, posthuman was kind enough to do some investigating and let us know all about what was really involved, not that any present were taken in by the offer haha I mean really, how stupid do people think we are??? (With apologies to Pete for going off track :D)
 
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wwjd_kilden

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I find it interesting that modern day Christians want women to wear head coverings while among the Jews it is the men who do
(I visited a synagogue in Scotland. My male friend had to wear that thingy the men wear, nothing was said about my hair though)
 
Locutus

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Years ago I used to drop in at a local Brethren assembly, the older ladies wore a head covering - the first time I saw that I thought it was very "comely". I don't think many of the younger ladies wore a head covering.
 
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Life43144

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I think a women should testify whenever prompted by the Holy Spirit 100%. Paul says so, too. The thing that's in question is the wearing of the veil-long hair, or can women be preachers for the majority of the cases. Paul said in 1 Corinthians 11:15 "But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven". sorry for the caps I copy and pasted the verse.
being under the Holy Spirit will never contradict Gods word.
 
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TemporaryCircumstances

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wwjd_kilden said:
I find it interesting that modern day Christians want women to wear head coverings while among the Jews it is the men who do
(I visited a synagogue in Scotland. My male friend had to wear that thingy the men wear, nothing was said about my hair though)
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It's called a Kippah (it also has another name that I can't remember)
And it depends on what branch of Judaism you're talking about
If it's orthodox women are required to cover their hair if married
 
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TemporaryCircumstances

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#118
I also dont think I'm allowed to wear a hair covering in uniform...
 
Magenta

Magenta

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Locutus said:
Years ago I used to drop in at a local Brethren assembly, the older ladies wore a head covering - the first time I saw that I thought it was very "comely". I don't think many of the younger ladies wore a head covering.
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It starts out innocent enough...





And can even be fun for special occasions...



But before you know it, it becomes law, and punishable on pain of death to disobey:

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BeyondET

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Zen said:
Ecclesiastes 7:
[SUP]27 [/SUP]Behold, this have I found, saith the preacher, counting one by one, to find out the account:
[SUP]28 [/SUP]Which yet my soul seeketh, but I find not: one man among a thousand have I found; but a woman among all those have I not found.
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O boy so what was it that he didn't find among all those well to get the picture in verse before the preacher didn't find a woman with snares and nets who's hands are tied


23 I tested all this wisdom, and I said, “I will be wise,” but it was far from me.
24What has been is remote and exceedingly mysterious. Who can discover it?
25I directed my mind to know, to investigate and to seek wisdom and an explanation, and to know the evil of folly and the foolishness of madness.
26And I discovered more bitter than death the woman whose heart is snares and nets, whose hands are chains. One who is pleasing to God will escape from her, but the sinner will be captured by her.

27“Behold, I have discovered this,” says the Preacher, “adding one thing to another to find an explanation, 28which I am still seeking but have not found. I have found one man among a thousand, but I have not found a woman among all these.


Men have sought out many devices to claim that women have no place teaching in church in a nut shell


29“Behold, I have found only this, that God made men upright, but they have sought out many devices.”
 
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