Slavery in the Bible

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How do you take Exodus 21:7 out of context?

"21:7 And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.
21:8 If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her."

Those are instructions regarding selling your daughter into slavery. Just because you don't like what it says, doesn't mean it doesn't say that.
 
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It says if. It doesn't say you have to. Once you know freedom in Jesus, and God's provision, you shouldn't want to or need to.
 
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Were these commands dictated by the Christian God?

And you worship the God who condoned this sort of behavior?

Did Jesus ever speak out against slavery?
 
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Were these commands dictated by the Christian God?

And you worship the God who condoned this sort of behavior?

Did Jesus ever speak out against slavery?
Slavery back then is no different than someone signing a contract today. No more different than someone working for a paycheck.
 
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Slavery back then is no different than someone signing a contract today. No more different than someone working for a paycheck.
Haha! ok....

Exodus 21:20-21

And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.
 
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Every seven year the hebrew indentured servants were set free.
This is a notion far from the debt based financial system we live under today.
But choose your god as you will, as you are comfortable in your financial chains.
 
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cfultz3

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Haha! ok....

Exodus 21:20-21

And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.
if an employer strikes an employee, he shall be punished. Under the laws now, that employee can even anull the contract.
 
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Every seven year the hebrew indentured servants were set free.
This is a notion far from the debt based financial system we live under today.
But choose your god as you will, as you are comfortable in your financial chains.
Seven years of being owned and beaten......well I guess that doesn't sound all that bad.
 
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cfultz3

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Seven years of being owned and beaten......well I guess that doesn't sound all that bad.
The employer over the loudspeaker: overtime is manatory today.
 
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Have fun using excusatory gymnastics for these, fellas!

The following passage shows that slaves are clearly property to be bought and sold like livestock.

However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.
(Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

The following passage describes how the Hebrew slaves are to be treated.

If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.' If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever. (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)

Notice how they can get a male Hebrew slave to become a permanent slave by keeping his wife and children hostage until he says he wants to become a permanent slave. What kind of family values are these?

The following passage describes the sickening practice of sex slavery. How can anyone think it is moral to sell your own daughter as a sex slave?

When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

So these are the Bible family values! A man can buy as many sex slaves as he wants as long as he feeds them, clothes them, and screws them!

What does the Bible say about beating slaves? It says you can beat both male and female slaves with a rod so hard that as long as they don't die right away you are cleared of any wrong doing.

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

You would think that Jesus and the New Testament would have a different view of slavery, but slavery is still approved of in the New Testament, as the following passages show.

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)

In the following parable, Jesus clearly approves of beating slaves even if they didn't know they were doing anything wrong.

The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. "But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given." (Luke 12:47-48 NLT)
 
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and is that any different than the slavery to a paycheck. The only difference now is that servants are treated more humane and have more say in their treatment.
 
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Seven years of being owned and beaten......well I guess that doesn't sound all that bad.
Why do you think they beat them?
An injured worker is ineffectual.
You've been swallowing propaganda.
B.T.W. - They had to take care of their indentured servants.
They fed, clothed, housed, and provided medical treatment. - A far cry from the 30 hour a week Wal Mart job with
no benefits. (Walmart is the biggest employer in the U.S.) - But not to worry, as long as they only hire someone for 30
hours a week they are free from any insurance - medical or unemployment.
And other large companies are doing the same.
Yes, you as a 24 year old sure are set up nicely in the fourth beast. (Daniel 7)
 
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cfultz3

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Another difference was that back then, the master use to house, feed, and cloth his servants. Now they give you a check for those expenses and tell you to come back tomarrow.
 
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Yea, they sure were stupid back then.
Not smart like us today who eat genetically modified food.
We are so much more advanced, that's why one in two will contract some form of cancer -
(where it was 2% in 1900).
Yup, we sure are smarter.
 
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raoul

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It says if. It doesn't say you have to. Once you know freedom in Jesus, and God's provision, you shouldn't want to or need to.
What does that have to do with the question regarding slavery? I see no connection.
 

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Were these commands dictated by the Christian God?

And you worship the God who condoned this sort of behavior?

Did Jesus ever speak out against slavery?
I don't judge God, he judges me.

He's God, and I'm not (and neither are you).
 
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Different culture , so it had to be addressed in the Word of God to make sure it was done right if it was being done. What many people don't take into consideration is , because they are servants, does not mean they were treated poorly. Most often people would rather have a roof over their head and food on a plate, rather then conditions they may have had prior to becoming a maid or man servant.

Your mind should not run to what you know today as modern slavery; and apply that to the Bible times; It just won't fit. I rather say lets study until we learn the truth, because God is always fair and just. God does not hide anything from us. Do don't allow one verse in the Bible that your mind is not able to handle send it running off a cliff. Just relax and study .
 
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