The faith is dead without the works according to the faith.
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[SUP]4[/SUP] Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
[SUP]5[/SUP] I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
a branch doesn't has material to produce a fruit.
[SUP]5[/SUP] I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
a branch doesn't has material to produce a fruit.
let's see.... ...... I'll ask the owner , admins , or mods to delete my post if
this (the quotes below) didn't come from a religion identified on this site as heresy >>
(it sounds like it, but i may be wrong)
"protestants are simply wrong, faith alone saves no one."
"It ? Lol , doesn't sound very agape."
this (the quotes below) didn't come from a religion identified on this site as heresy >>
(it sounds like it, but i may be wrong)
"protestants are simply wrong, faith alone saves no one."
"It ? Lol , doesn't sound very agape."
What Paul said is that between the womb and the grave, while we HAVE salvation; we have NOT YET attained resurrection perfection. While we can Not expect to attain it in this life; we should live our lives as if it were attainable and constantly strive for it
Paul is NOT saying that he is not yet saved.
Paul is NOT saying that he is not yet saved.
Jesus told us that there will be people in the Church who will think they are saved and will not be.
The Bible also says that some who are saved will have their earthly life end early because their actions do not honor God.
The Bible says in Eph 2:10, James Chapter 1 and elsewhere that true Salvation will produce both works and fruit; but no amount of works can produce Salvation.
Salvation is the Lord's name in English; and true Salvation is Christ in us. If we are truly saved and led by the Holy Spirit; the Spirit will not lead us to rub the Lord's nose in the sin He came to save us from; nor will we want to add to what He died to pay for.
The Bible also says that some who are saved will have their earthly life end early because their actions do not honor God.
The Bible says in Eph 2:10, James Chapter 1 and elsewhere that true Salvation will produce both works and fruit; but no amount of works can produce Salvation.
Salvation is the Lord's name in English; and true Salvation is Christ in us. If we are truly saved and led by the Holy Spirit; the Spirit will not lead us to rub the Lord's nose in the sin He came to save us from; nor will we want to add to what He died to pay for.
you people do not understand the word...faith comes by hearing....it has nothing to do with faith producing anything...faith comes and abide in you....if you do nothing it is dead....almost everyone has heard the word by now why is it not producing faith that everyone is saved??? faith without works is dead....you have to act on the faith you receive else it is dead.....faith does not produce salvation...God gives salvation to those who obey him...
Hebrews 5:9
And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
Hebrews 5:9
And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
if it is connected to the tree it has all the materials as the tree and brings forth fruit...just as scripture says...if you are bringing forth bad fruit you are connected to a bad tree...this is what people do not understand...they have all kind of evil thoughts and do all sorts of evil deeds ant think they are in Christ...
[h=1]James 1:13-15King James Version (KJV)[/h] [SUP]13 [/SUP]Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
[SUP]14 [/SUP]But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
[h=1]James 1:13-15King James Version (KJV)[/h] [SUP]13 [/SUP]Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
[SUP]14 [/SUP]But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
I tell you, that this world are full of so called chrstians who have take this false teaching for them heart: that they are true christian, even though they not really are that, and it is because much of that false teaching which makes instant chrietinas, without true faith, and the works according to it.
The christians do not really now God, today.
The christians do not really now God, today.
Believe what first then repent? Matthew 21:32 - For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him. Mark 1:15 - Repent and believe the gospel. Acts 20:21 - testifying both to Jews and to Greeks of repentance toward God and of faith in our Lord Jesus Christ. Are you suggesting that we should reverse this scriptural order?