The Holy Spirit and the Supernatural Orb Explored (Scripture Examined)

[danalee]

You find possible evidence to the Holy Spirit's existence ridiculous? This could be bigger than the both of us.

Where in the bible does it say that the Holy Spirit does not manifest as an orb or an "orb of light"? "

Here is an artist rendition of "Ezekiel's Wheel":

http://pftdcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Ezekiel_s_vision_1_-1004x798.jpg

"Ezekiel's Wheel" is a "Vision of God". Surely it is not a vision of Jesus and I highly doubt that it is a vision of Father God. The word "orb" probably did not even exist at that time and this could be why Ezekiel used the phrase, "a wheel inside a wheel" to describe his orbital vision.

Here is a picture of the supernatural orb with a spirit within the supernatural orb:

http://www.extremumspiritum.com/images/2013/07/xmas-orb.jpg

Obviously, this is not dust, pollen, insects, liquid, or foreign material on or in any camera.

Ezekiel 1:21 "for the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels."

You are right in that all of God's designs are a divine interpretation of his intelligence and goodness; it's just a hard sell that God could be contained by an orb - too three dimensional.

 

[notforgotten]

Satan tries to derail Christianity whenever possible. Online Christian communities are frequently inundated by agents of satan who seek to chisel away at fundamental doctrines, Christian values and substitute other ideas not found in the bible. Contemplative prayer is veiled witchcraft. The law of attraction comes from the occult and has been taught in some churches in a new form. Some churches have teach "Christian yoga". "Christian yoga" is like "Christian satanism". Many paranormal shows point toward false teachings and false assumptions. Then you get hard core occultist who activity hunt down leaders in Christianity and prosperous churches with curses. It is all very nauseating but expected from a defeated foe who is running out of time.

So far you have called me a stupid, foolish devil. Would you please stop trolling and try to be a little more considerate.

 

[notforgotten]

Notice the orb in the picture of Father God and Jesus on their thrones.


The Trinity Adored by: Peter Paul Rubens (1577-1640)

Although, modern day interpretation of this painting would have the symbolic dove representing the Holy Spirit. How would you explain this particular type of orb under Father God's left arm?

 

[posthuman]

Although, modern day interpretation of this painting would have the symbolic dove representing the Holy Spirit.

it's not just "modern day interpretation"

And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
(Luke 3:22)

 

[posthuman]

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The Trinity Adored by: Peter Paul Rubens (1577-1640)

How would you explain this particular type of orb under Father God's left arm?

most likely it is a representation of the whole world, or the whole universe, held in his hands.

compare this sculpture from the St. Vitus Basilica in Ellwangen, Germany, titled "Salvator Mundi" (savior of the world)


Diego Francesco Carlone (1674–1750)

here Christ is pictured holding what's called a "Globus cruciger" which represents the world. the cross atop it is symbolic of Christ's sovereignty over all things.

 

[notforgotten]

most likely it is a representation of the whole world, or the whole universe, held in his hands.

compare this sculpture from the St. Vitus Basilica in Ellwangen, Germany, titled "Salvator Mundi" (savior of the world)

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Diego Francesco Carlone (1674–1750)

here Christ is pictured holding what's called a "Globus cruciger" which represents the world. the cross atop it is symbolic of Christ's sovereignty over all things.

Yes, that particular type of orb represents the world.

 

[posthuman]

Yes, that particular type of orb represents the world.

same thing here,


(Pieter de Grebber, God Inviting Christ to Sit on the Throne at His Right Hand (detail) 1645)

this globe represents the world, or alternately, the whole universe.
the 'globus cruciger' is an adaption of the same iconagraphy used in all kinds of art from ancient times, to differentiate depictions of God or of Christ from similar artwork of Jupiter or other pagan gods also holding orbs. the symbolism is the same.

lol maybe these mysterious orb pictures are actually tiny universes or planets!

 

[danschance]

So far you have called me a stupid, foolish devil. Would you please stop trolling and try to be a little more considerate.

You are trying to blend the paranormal with Christianity and you call me a troll? I don't think you are stupid but this thread certainly is stupid and foolish. I never called you a devil as I know you are human. Please do not distort what I say.

 

[posthuman]

i think the photographs are all pictures of water or dust, and that you're a bit nuts to think they are the Holy Spirit.
i don't hate you for it
i can forgive that really easily - i'm a bit nuts too. sorry if i sound rude sometimes; i think all my life i've come across as more mean-spirited than i intended to be.
& i like talking about religious art.

 

[notforgotten]

And I could say, "you guys call yourselves Christians, you wouldn't know the Holy Spirit if you were staring right at a picture of Him", but I'm not going to say that. I didn't know it was Him at first either. The Holy Spirit is not easy to understand.

 

[danschance]

The HS is a floating blob of light. Most orbs are dust. Paranormal orbs are demonic and have nothing to do with the HS at all.

 

[notforgotten]

Please look very closely at the similarities between the eye and the Supernatural Orb:

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If you examine the above "Orb" picture closely, you will see the Holy Spirit looking right at the camera man.

1 John 5:6 And it is the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is truth.

Note: the Spirit is the Holy Spirit.

Look how much this orb resembles an eyeball. That is because it is the eye of the Spirit who bears witness.

 

[paulsfam4]

It would be better for your walk with god! to avoid this spiritualism it will lead you down a road you don't want to go, be content with knowing Gods promise to us ,this is dangerous and not Gods will in anyone's life.

 

[notforgotten]

It would be better for your walk with god! to avoid this spiritualism it will lead you down a road you don't want to go, be content with knowing Gods promise to us ,this is dangerous and not Gods will in anyone's life.

I beg to differ, I believe it is God's will for us to know the Holy Spirit.

 

[notforgotten]

Ezekiel's Vision of God (artist rendition based on scripture)

Ezekiel 1:16 "a wheel in the middle of a wheel"

What Ezekiel describes as "a wheel in the middle of a wheel" is obviously orbital.


Here is a real photograph of the face of a spirit in a supernatural orb:

Ezekiel 1:21 "for the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels"

As can be easily seen, "for the spirit of the living creature was in the orb". What Ezekiel saw with Father God and Cherubim was orbs.


Please look very closely at the orbs below and notice how they resemble an eyeball looking directly at you:

1 John 5-6 And it is the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is truth.

What you are seeing with these orbs is the Holy Spirit bearing witness while He is looking directly at the camera man.


What Ezekiel saw with Father God and Cherubim and describes as "a wheel in the middle of a wheel" was the Holy Spirit in orbital form. And not some lifeless chariot or alien U.F.O..


Romans 9:1 ​I tell the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Spirit.

 

[notforgotten]

Here is a photograph of the supernatural orb hovering over the face of the earth:

Genesis 1:2 The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

The Spirit of God is the Holy Spirit.

To get an idea of what this might look like, above is a photograph of the supernatural orb hovering over the face of the earth.

The orb can just as easily hover ​over water.

 

[danschance]

notforgotten, please let this thread die. No one but you believes this junk. Most believe orbs are dust particles close to the lens. Others believe they are human spirits which contradicts scripture (Heb 9:27). I know you are sincere and serious in your belief that orbs = Holy Spirit and yet I am serious when I say you are sincerely wrong in that belief.

 

[notforgotten]

notforgotten, please let this thread die. No one but you believes this junk. Most believe orbs are dust particles close to the lens. Others believe they are human spirits which contradicts scripture (Heb 9:27). I know you are sincere and serious in your belief that orbs = Holy Spirit and yet I am serious when I say you are sincerely wrong in that belief.

The truth shall not die! Although you do not see it now, you will see it when you get to heaven.

- those that could not hear the music thought those dancing to be insane.

 

[notforgotten]

Here is a photograph of the supernatural orb in church:

Romans 8:16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God.

What you have here is an example of what the Holy Spirit might look like bearing witness to people in church worshiping God.

 

[notforgotten]

The Holy Spirit shares the same omnipresence (in all places at all times) as God and Jesus:

Psalm 139:7-8 Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? If I ascend into heaven, You are there; If I make my bed in hell, behold, ​You are there.