The Purpose of the Commandments

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FreeNChrist

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It is challenging sometimes but it isn't impossible. Otherwise the Lord wouldn't have said this:

You, therefore, must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect. Matt 5:48 RSV

And you have confessed you are not perfect. Quite the conundrum, eh?
 

Hizikyah

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It wasn't just Scripture, now was it?
You seem to not be too keen of dwelling on the word, but rather to pick. No it was all Scripture, with one word definition showing the proper means of said Scripture.... None of my own words...
 
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FreeNChrist

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You seem to not be too keen of dwelling on the word, but rather to pick. No it was all Scripture, with one word definition showing the proper means of said Scripture.... None of my own words...
Indeed. It was not "just" scripture.
 

Magenta

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"Therefore you shall be perfect just as your Father in heaven is perfect" (Matt. 5:48). At first glance, this is a difficult passage. It seems to be calling us to do or be what seems impossible. "Nobody is perfect," is what we say.

It is true that all responsible people commit sin. Romans 3:23 states that all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. That is why Jesus died for all men to give them the opportunity to have their sin removed (Heb. 2:9; 2 Cor. 5:14). It is also why the gospel needs to be preached "to every creature" (Mark 16:16). Even after one obeys the gospel, he still commits sin and needs forgiveness (1 John 1:7–10).

If Matthew 5:48 were telling us that we must live sinlessly perfect lives or that we must be as perfect as God, then we obviously have some real problems.

When we seek to determine the meaning of any Biblical text, especially one that seems difficult to understand, we must remember, when it comes to Scripture, whatever God’s word says on any subject is right (Psa. 119:128). It is also possible to twist or misuse the Scriptures (2 Pet. 3:15–16).

In the study of the difficult text before us, we must answer three questions. First: Can the word "perfect" have several meanings in the Bible? Second: What is the context of this verse? Third: Are there other verses in the Bible which will help us understand this one?

The Meaning of Perfect

The word "perfect," in the Bible, can and does mean "complete" or "finished." Jesus was made "perfect" through suffering (Heb. 2:10; 5:8–9). He completed or fulfilled God’s plan for Him as our Savior by suffering for us.

"Perfect" can also have the meaning of "mature" or "grown up." In Philippians 3:15, the apostle Paul speaks to "as many as be perfect" (KJV). The NKJV translates this phrase "as many as are mature."

The Context of Matthew 5:48

Jesus contrasts His teaching with that of the Old Law (Matt. 5:38–39). He shows us what our attitude is to be toward those who want to make life hard for us by forcing us or hatefully treating us (Matt. 5:40–44).

He teaches us to love our "enemies" (Matt. 5:44), not an easy thing to do. We are to do this so "that you may be sons of your Father in heaven" (Matt. 5:45a). God acts with concern and love for all men. If we act like our heavenly Father, we will act with positive good will toward evil and good men alike. If we only love those who love us but do not love our enemies, we are really no better than evil men for even evil people are capable of loving those who love them (Matt. 5:46).

When Jesus said, "Be perfect, as your Father in heaven is perfect" (Matt. 5:48), He was saying, "Let your love be complete as God’s love." God loves all people, even evil ones. This is how we can be as "perfect" as God. Our love for our fellow-man needs to grow and mature -- including loving our enemies. If we do not love our enemies, we are not acting as sons of God ought to act. http://www.centervilleroad.com/articles/perfect.html
 
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You should repent of your sin. But repenting will not make you perfect.
That is where you are wrong.

Okay, we've found the problem. When you repent of your sin, you are perfect as the Lord is perfect. Go for it.
 
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FreeNChrist

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That is where you are wrong.

Okay, we've found the problem. When you repent of your sin, you are perfect as the Lord is perfect. Go for it.
The Father in Heaven never has the need to repent of sin.
 
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FreeNChrist

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That has nothing to do with it. Walk through the gate.
It has everything to do with it. The righteous requirement is perfection. A holy perfect God could never accept anything less.
 
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It has everything to do with it. The righteous requirement is perfection. A holy perfect God could never accept anything less.
A holy, perfect God forgives, but at the same time knows we cannot be happy till we repent of our sin.
 
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FreeNChrist

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A holy, perfect God forgives, but at the same time knows we cannot be happy till we repent of our sin.
Being forgiven does not make you perfect. And yes you should repent of your sin.
 
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Being forgiven does not make you perfect. And yes you should repent of your sin.
Apparently it does, along with our repentance, because Jesus said we have to be perfect like our Father in heaven. But as long as we repent of our sin, we will be all right.
 
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FreeNChrist

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Apparently it does, along with our repentance, because Jesus said we have to be perfect like our Father in heaven. But as long as we repent of our sin, we will be all right.

That you have sins you need to repent of only confirms that you are not as perfect as the Father in Heaven. And I have news for you, you never will be as perfect as Him through your "pretty good" Law keeping. It's specifically because man's attempts at keeping the Law having never amounted to anything more than "pretty good" that the Law has never made anything perfect. But that does nothing to change the reality that it is perfection that is the requirement.


 
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That you have sins you need to repent of only confirms that you are not as perfect as the Father in Heaven. And I have news for you, you never will be as perfect as Him through your "pretty good" Law keeping. It's specifically because man's attempts at keeping the Law having never amounted to anything more than "pretty good" that the Law has never made anything perfect. But that does nothing to change the reality that it is perfection that is the requirement.


You can't break one of the Lord's commandments and be perfect. The Lord can teach you how not to break the commandments.
 
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FreeNChrist

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You can't break one of the Lord's commandments and be perfect. The Lord can teach you how not to break the commandments.
Your "pretty good" is a program for failure. Failure that has eternal consequences.