True love is the mark of a real Believer.

[Maria27]

is possible true love??

 

[Sirk]

Also, I am sorry. It is just silly to say that God is going to forgive you if you are not sorry. If that was the case, then everyone would be saved.

The thing is that you are incapable of being truly.... perfectly......completely..... repentant enough to satisfy God's requirement for the payment of your sin. Whether you want to believe it or not, you came to God with a measure of selfishness that still lives in you and will always live in you. You are fooling yourself to believe otherwise.

 

[psychomom]

is possible true love??

Hola, Maria, and welcome.

true love was shown to us in the Lord Jesus.
He makes us able to love, too.

 

[Jason0047]

Doesn't scripture tell us that Jesus yoke is heavy and burdensome and that we should throw it around the necks of as many people that we can so that they can pull our plows for us?

Scripture has to be compared with Scripture.

Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution (2 Timothy 3:12).

"Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God." (Acts 14:22).

"He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me." (Acts 10:37).

"For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it."
(Luke 9:24).

"Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him."
(1 John 2:15).

"Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me." (Matthew 16:24).

 

[Jason0047]

The thing is that you are incapable of being truly.... perfectly......completely..... repentant enough to satisfy God's requirement for the payment of your sin. Whether you want to believe it or not, you came to God with a measure of selfishness that still lives in you and will always live in you. You are fooling yourself to believe otherwise.

Jesus says be ye perfect as your Heavenly Father is perfect. The Heavenly Father is perfect because he is holy and cannot sin.

1 Peter 4:1 says they that have suffered in the flesh have ceased from sin.

Peter identifies the false prophets as those who have eyes full of adultery and who cannot cease from sin.

Paul says they that are Christ's have crucified the affections and lusts (Galatians 5:24).

 

[Jason0047]

John 4

4 Now Jesus learned that the Pharisees had heard that he was gaining and baptizing more disciples than John— [SUP]2 [/SUP]although in fact it was not Jesus who baptized, but his disciples. [SUP]3 [/SUP]So he left Judea and went back once more to Galilee.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Now he had to go through Samaria. [SUP]5 [/SUP]So he came to a town in Samaria called Sychar, near the plot of ground Jacob had given to his son Joseph. [SUP]6 [/SUP]Jacob’s well was there, and Jesus, tired as he was from the journey, sat down by the well. It was about noon.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]When a Samaritan woman came to draw water, Jesus said to her, “Will you give me a drink?” [SUP]8 [/SUP](His disciples had gone into the town to buy food.)
[SUP]9 [/SUP]The Samaritan woman said to him, “You are a Jew and I am a Samaritan woman. How can you ask me for a drink?” (For Jews do not associate with Samaritans.[SUP][a][/SUP])
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Jesus answered her, “If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you living water.”
[SUP]11 [/SUP]“Sir,” the woman said, “you have nothing to draw with and the well is deep. Where can you get this living water? [SUP]12 [/SUP]Are you greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well and drank from it himself, as did also his sons and his livestock?”
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Jesus answered, “Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again, [SUP]14 [/SUP]but whoever drinks the water I give them will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give them will become in them a spring of water welling up to eternal life.”
[SUP]15 [/SUP]The woman said to him, “Sir, give me this water so that I won’t get thirsty and have to keep coming here to draw water.”
[SUP]16 [/SUP]He told her, “Go, call your husband and come back.”
[SUP]17 [/SUP]“I have no husband,” she replied.
Jesus said to her, “You are right when you say you have no husband. [SUP]18 [/SUP]The fact is, you have had five husbands, and the man you now have is not your husband. What you have just said is quite true.”
[SUP]19 [/SUP]“Sir,” the woman said, “I can see that you are a prophet. [SUP]20 [/SUP]Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem.”
[SUP]21 [/SUP]“Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. [SUP]22 [/SUP]You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. [SUP]23 [/SUP]Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. [SUP]24 [/SUP]God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”
[SUP]25 [/SUP]The woman said, “I know that Messiah” (called Christ) “is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us.”
[SUP]26 [/SUP]Then Jesus declared, “I, the one speaking to you—I am he.”
The Disciples Rejoin Jesus

[SUP]27 [/SUP]Just then his disciples returned and were surprised to find him talking with a woman. But no one asked, “What do you want?” or “Why are you talking with her?”
[SUP]28 [/SUP]Then, leaving her water jar, the woman went back to the town and said to the people, [SUP]29 [/SUP]“Come, see a man who told me everything I ever did. Could this be the Messiah?” [SUP]30 [/SUP]They came out of the town and made their way toward him.
[SUP]31 [/SUP]Meanwhile his disciples urged him, “Rabbi, eat something.”
[SUP]32 [/SUP]But he said to them, “I have food to eat that you know nothing about.”
[SUP]33 [/SUP]Then his disciples said to each other, “Could someone have brought him food?”
[SUP]34 [/SUP]“My food,” said Jesus, “is to do the will of him who sent me and to finish his work. [SUP]35 [/SUP]Don’t you have a saying, ‘It’s still four months until harvest’? I tell you, open your eyes and look at the fields! They are ripe for harvest. [SUP]36 [/SUP]Even now the one who reaps draws a wage and harvests a crop for eternal life, so that the sower and the reaper may be glad together. [SUP]37 [/SUP]Thus the saying ‘One sows and another reaps’ is true. [SUP]38 [/SUP]I sent you to reap what you have not worked for. Others have done the hard work, and you have reaped the benefits of their labor.”
Many Samaritans Believe

[SUP]39 [/SUP]Many of the Samaritans from that town believed in him because of the woman’s testimony, “He told me everything I ever did.” [SUP]40 [/SUP]So when the Samaritans came to him, they urged him to stay with them, and he stayed two days. [SUP]41 [/SUP]And because of his words many more became believers.
[SUP]42 [/SUP]They said to the woman, “We no longer believe just because of what you said; now we have heard for ourselves, and we know that this man really is the Savior of the world.”


In which verse does Jesus say that Jason?

I was referring to John chapter 8. The woman caught in the act of adultery. After Jesus told her that he did not condemn her, he told her to then sin no more.

 

[Yet]

Love yes but also...2John 4. I rejoiced greatly that I found of thy children walking in TRUTH....

 

[Jason0047]

Where does scripture state that the woman was seeking forgiveness in those verses? You're adding something to the text that the text DOES NOT SAY.

John 8

[SUP]2 [/SUP]At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. [SUP]3 [/SUP]The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group [SUP]4 [/SUP]and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. [SUP]5 [/SUP]In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” [SUP]6 [/SUP]They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.
But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. [SUP]7 [/SUP]When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” [SUP]8 [/SUP]Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. [SUP]10 [/SUP]Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”
[SUP]11 [/SUP]“No one, sir,” she said.
“Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”

One knows that is the only logical conclusion based on what we know by the rest of Scripture. For Scripture has to be compared with Scripture. We know that the Ninevites will rise up in Judgment because they repented at the preaching of Jonah. If you were to look at Jonah 3, we would learn they turned from their evil ways. This is the repentance that Jesus defines. Paul says Godly sorrow leads to repentance unto salvation. He says the sorrow of the world brings death. So she had to have had a Godly sorrow that lead to repentance in order for it to lead unto salvation. We know that the Tax Collector was more justified because he cried out to God to have mercy on him versus the Pharisee who did not do so.

For sin is like cheating on God. For example: If a man cheats on his wife, can he not say he is sorry and not stop cheating on her and assume that his marriage will go smoothly (if she knows what he is doing)?

 

[SarahM777]

I was referring to John chapter 8. The woman caught in the act of adultery. After Jesus told her that he did not condemn her, he told her to then sin no more.

I did mention the woman at the well and YOU LEFT IT OUT in your response.

 

[Jason0047]

Jason, I told YOU this a few days ago, you got ticked off at me for saying it. the same thing you said about context and not plucking verses. I guess we should see which side of your mouth you are talking out before anyone says anything to you. a double-minded man is unstable in all his ways.

Have no idea what you are talking about. Ticked? Do not recall that. Please show the post # and I will do my best to explain it and to also bring up more Scripture into what I was talking about.

 

[SarahM777]

One knows that is the only logical conclusion based on what we know by the rest of Scripture. For Scripture has to be compared with Scripture. We know that the Ninevites will rise up in Judgment because they repented at the preaching of Jonah. If you were to look at Jonah 3, we would learn they turned from their evil ways. This is the repentance that Jesus defines. Paul says Godly sorrow leads to repentance unto salvation. He says the sorrow of the world brings death. So she had to have had a Godly sorrow that lead to repentance in order for it to lead unto salvation. We know that the Tax Collector was more justified because he cried out to God to have mercy on him versus the Pharisee who did not do so.

For sin is like cheating on God. For example: If a man cheats on his wife, can he not say he is sorry and not stop cheating on her and assume that his marriage will go smoothly (if she knows what he is doing)?

You're adding something to the text the text DOES NOT SAY. This what the text plainly says

Originally Posted by SarahM777

Where does scripture state that the woman was seeking forgiveness in those verses? You're adding something to the text that the text DOES NOT SAY.

John 8

[SUP]2 [/SUP]At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. [SUP]3 [/SUP]The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group [SUP]4 [/SUP]and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. [SUP]5 [/SUP]In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” [SUP]6 [/SUP]They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.
But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. [SUP]7 [/SUP]When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” [SUP]8 [/SUP]Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. [SUP]10 [/SUP]Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”
[SUP]11 [/SUP]“No one, sir,” she said.
“Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”

It does NOT say what you want it to say.

 

[Sirk]

You're adding something to the text the text DOES NOT SAY. This what the text plainly says

Originally Posted by SarahM777

Where does scripture state that the woman was seeking forgiveness in those verses? You're adding something to the text that the text DOES NOT SAY.

John 8

[SUP]2 [/SUP]At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. [SUP]3 [/SUP]The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group [SUP]4 [/SUP]and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. [SUP]5 [/SUP]In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” [SUP]6 [/SUP]They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.
But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. [SUP]7 [/SUP]When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” [SUP]8 [/SUP]Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. [SUP]10 [/SUP]Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”
[SUP]11 [/SUP]“No one, sir,” she said.
“Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”

It does NOT say what you want it to say.

Well said. I really like your Oswald Chambers quote....and it's so relevant to this thread.

 

[Jason0047]

No one is making up any theology, that story of the Samaritan woman at the well was an illustration of how Christ covered her sin and drew her out to respond to the water of life. He did the same for the woman in (Luke 7) who came to Simon's house with the alabaster box of ointment. Read the story Jason and see how love covered her sin, how that she had been forgiven much and how she loved the Lord. Then without a single word of her sin being charged or confessed from her own mouth, she was forgiven (v.48) and her faith saved her (v.50) and she went in peace. She was known to be a sinner but not condemned in any way for the many sins of her life and now she left in peace with a capacity to love much for she was forgiven much.

First, nowhere does it ever say what the Samaritan woman did in regards to Jesus concerning her salvation. She merely said to the Samaritans that Jesus had told her everything she ever did (in regards to their conversation about her husbands). It was the Samaritans who had believed and then realized he was the Savior. She might have believed, too. We just do not have that information in Scripture.

As for the sinful woman with alabaster box that kissed Jesus' feet: Well, one, she was crying. One usually cries because they are happy or sorrowful. In this case, she was filled with tears of joy because she was forgiven of her sin (that she no doubt was seeking forgiveness for). For it makes no sense to be happy that your sin is forgiven and then still be in a state of rebellion or sin against the Lord. Just because Scripture does ot give us the whole story does not mean we can jump to conclusions and make stuff up. Scripture testifies of Scripture. Paul says Godly sorrow leads to repentance unto salvation. So she had to have had Godly sorrow at some point. Also, the parable that Jesus put forth also suggests that the two men in debt and could not pay were seeking forgiveness because the one who loved the most was forgiven the most of their debt. If the man who owed debt and was forgiven and did not care that he was forgiven of his debt then he would not love or even care.

 

[Stephen63]

The woman was seeking forgiveness, the Pharisees were not seeking forgiveness. Jesus got mighty upset at the Pharisees because they were not desiring to repent of their sin.

I'm afraid that's not true. Her sin was indeed an example for the Pharisees to use against Jesus, so He used her situation as the proper example as how the Father would allow forgiveness IF she would go & practice sin no more. Turning away from sin proves true repentance. Note the scripture:

Ezekiel 18:20-29 (KJV) [SUP]20 [/SUP]The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. [SUP]21 [/SUP]But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die. [SUP]22 [/SUP]All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live. [SUP]23 [/SUP]Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live? [SUP]24 [/SUP]But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die. [SUP]25 [/SUP]Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel; Is not my way equal? are not your ways unequal? [SUP]26 [/SUP]When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die. [SUP]27 [/SUP]Again, when the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive. [SUP]28 [/SUP]Because he considereth, and turneth away from all his transgressions that he hath committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die. [SUP]29 [/SUP]Yet saith the house of Israel, The way of the Lord is not equal. O house of Israel, are not my ways equal? are not your ways unequal?

It seems as though God is speaking contrary to His own Law, but not so. Remember, the Law was made for man, not man for the Law. God is longsuffering towards us, not willing that any should perish, but all should come to repentance.

Jesus was showing this fact of His Father's ways toward mankind, allowing mercy & forgiveness instead of judgement.
When Jesus & Paul teach forgiveness, there's NO PLACE where it says they must come to us first & ask it. Forgiveness is to be offered FIRST, whether they ask for it or not. This woman never asked, but Jesus offered it anyway. He would that men everywhere should repent.

BTW, this scripture is one that shows the Father's righteous intentions toward men if they quit sinning, OR if they start sinning again. No OSAS here.

 

[Jason0047]

You're adding something to the text the text DOES NOT SAY. This what the text plainly says

Originally Posted by SarahM777

Where does scripture state that the woman was seeking forgiveness in those verses? You're adding something to the text that the text DOES NOT SAY.

John 8

[SUP]2 [/SUP]At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. [SUP]3 [/SUP]The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group [SUP]4 [/SUP]and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. [SUP]5 [/SUP]In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” [SUP]6 [/SUP]They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.
But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. [SUP]7 [/SUP]When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” [SUP]8 [/SUP]Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. [SUP]10 [/SUP]Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”
[SUP]11 [/SUP]“No one, sir,” she said.
“Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”

It does NOT say what you want it to say.

In order for your view to work, you have to:

(a) Ignore reality on how forgivness works in the real world.
(b) Ignore the rest of Scripture on the topic of True Repentance.

For do not kid yourself. You are basing a view on this passage based on the absense of something that is not there. The Bereans were more noble because they searched the Scriptures to see whether those things be so or not. A truth in God's Word cannot be isolated to just one verse alone in regards to a certain Biblical topic or Scriptural Truth. We know by the rest of Scripture and how the real world works that she was seeking forgiveness? How so? Well, if she was not seeking forgiveness.... what do you think her reaction would be and Jesus knowing her thoughts? Jesus would not tell her to sin no more if she was a like a Pharisee trying to hold onto her sins. For they ignored the weightier matters of the law, like justice, love, and mercy. For you are not looking at her motives and what she is saying and what Jesus is saying. If she was still in rebellion against Jesus..... He would know it. Jesus being holy would not condone her sin and say it is forgiven if she did not want it forgiven. Hello?

 

[Jason0047]

I'm afraid that's not true. Her sin was indeed an example for the Pharisees to use against Jesus, so He used her situation as the proper example as how the Father would allow forgiveness IF she would go & practice sin no more. Turning away from sin proves true repentance. Note the scripture:

Ezekiel 18:20-29 (KJV) [SUP]20 [/SUP]The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. [SUP]21 [/SUP]But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die. [SUP]22 [/SUP]All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live. [SUP]23 [/SUP]Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live? [SUP]24 [/SUP]But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die. [SUP]25 [/SUP]Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel; Is not my way equal? are not your ways unequal? [SUP]26 [/SUP]When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die. [SUP]27 [/SUP]Again, when the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive. [SUP]28 [/SUP]Because he considereth, and turneth away from all his transgressions that he hath committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die. [SUP]29 [/SUP]Yet saith the house of Israel, The way of the Lord is not equal. O house of Israel, are not my ways equal? are not your ways unequal?

It seems as though God is speaking contrary to His own Law, but not so. Remember, the Law was made for man, not man for the Law. God is longsuffering towards us, not willing that any should perish, but all should come to repentance.

Jesus was showing this fact of His Father's ways toward mankind, allowing mercy & forgiveness instead of judgement.
When Jesus & Paul teach forgiveness, there's NO PLACE where it says they must come to us first & ask it. Forgiveness is to be offered FIRST, whether they ask for it or not. This woman never asked, but Jesus offered it anyway. He would that men everywhere should repent.

BTW, this scripture is one that shows the Father's righteous intentions toward men if they quit sinning, OR if they start sinning again. No OSAS here.

I will address this later.

 

[SarahM777]

In order for your view to work, you have to:

(a) Ignore reality on how forgivness works in the real world.
(b) Ignore the rest of Scripture on the topic of True Repentance.

For do not kid yourself. You are basing a view on this passage based on the absense of something that is not there. The Bereans were more noble because they searched the Scriptures to see whether those things be so or not. A truth in God's Word cannot be isolated to just one verse alone in regards to a certain Biblical topic or Scriptural Truth. We know by the rest of Scripture and how the real world works that she was seeking forgiveness? How so? Well, if she was not seeking forgiveness.... what do you think her reaction would be and Jesus knowing her thoughts? Jesus would not tell her to sin no more if she was a like a Pharisee trying to hold onto her sins. For they ignored the weightier matters of the law, like justice, love, and mercy. For you are not looking at her motives and what she is saying and what Jesus is saying. If she was still in rebellion against Jesus..... He would know it. Jesus being holy would not condone her sin and say it is forgiven if she did not want it forgiven. Hello?

Hello? I didn't say anything about the rest of scripture not saying those things. AGAIN WHAT I said is you are adding something to THAT text that that TEXT DOES NOT say to try to prove your point. Nowhere in that text does it says the woman at the well was seeking forgiveness WHICH IS what you are implying that that is what the text says.

By the way do you UNDERSTAND what SIN really is? Do you understand what REBELLION IS?

 

[Jason0047]

Hello? I didn't say anything about the rest of scripture not saying those things. AGAIN WHAT I said is you are adding something to THAT text that that TEXT DOES NOT say to try to prove your point. Nowhere in that text does it says the woman at the well was seeking forgiveness WHICH IS what you are implying that that is what the text says.

By the way do you UNDERSTAND what SIN really is? Do you understand what REBELLION IS?

You need to understand people's motivations by their conversation. A detective can look at a crime scene and see things that would be invisible to you.

 

[SarahM777]

You need to understand people's motivations by their conversation. A detective can look at a crime scene and see things that would be invisible to you.

And again

By the way do you UNDERSTAND what SIN really is? Do you understand what is at the heart of REBELLION?

 

[Jason0047]

And again

By the way do you UNDERSTAND what SIN really is? Do you understand what is at the heart of REBELLION?

Why don't you explain it nice and slow for me with Scripture.

But for starters, we know sin is transgression of the Law. Also, we know Paul asks the question, shall we continue in sin because we are not under the Law? Paul replies with, "God forbid." Meaning, you can't do such a thing. For Paul lists various sins that will cause a person to not inherit the Kingdom of God.