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The question is not annoying however it is one of the topics that Christians seem to disagree on the most. Since I know that when I leave this flesh behind I get to be with Jesus forever the means by which I die in this life do not concern me as much as they once did. Raptured, heart attack, hit by a bus, doesn't really matter to me. I do believe that when I am able to treat others as if Jesus was returning in 15 minutes I am then able to reflect His love more fully.
eschatological views vary, so i'm going to talk to you, one mom to another.
while my children were growing up, we attended a church that taught the futurist doctrine, and yes, i was terrified for them. well, silly me, nothing terrifying happened. all that worry wasted. lol
the things about which i worried never came to pass, and the things that happened i never saw coming. Jesus told His people again and again not to be fearful, but to believe in Him. is this easy? it is not. we need grace from God every moment of every day, and He will provide it.
you may safely trust God, little mommy. He will see to it you have everything you need, at just the right times.
He is the faithful One.
while my children were growing up, we attended a church that taught the futurist doctrine, and yes, i was terrified for them. well, silly me, nothing terrifying happened. all that worry wasted. lol
the things about which i worried never came to pass, and the things that happened i never saw coming. Jesus told His people again and again not to be fearful, but to believe in Him. is this easy? it is not. we need grace from God every moment of every day, and He will provide it.
you may safely trust God, little mommy. He will see to it you have everything you need, at just the right times.
He is the faithful One.
eschatological views vary, so i'm going to talk to you, one mom to another.
while my children were growing up, we attended a church that taught the futurist doctrine, and yes, i was terrified for them. well, silly me, nothing terrifying happened. all that worry wasted. lol
the things about which i worried never came to pass, and the things that happened i never saw coming. Jesus told His people again and again not to be fearful, but to believe in Him. is this easy? it is not. we need grace from God every moment of every day, and He will provide it.
you may safely trust God, little mommy. He will see to it you have everything you need, at just the right times.
He is the faithful One.
while my children were growing up, we attended a church that taught the futurist doctrine, and yes, i was terrified for them. well, silly me, nothing terrifying happened. all that worry wasted. lol
the things about which i worried never came to pass, and the things that happened i never saw coming. Jesus told His people again and again not to be fearful, but to believe in Him. is this easy? it is not. we need grace from God every moment of every day, and He will provide it.
you may safely trust God, little mommy. He will see to it you have everything you need, at just the right times.
He is the faithful One.
Hey I want you to know I was in a department store on the 24th and could not find a clerk to aid my wife in the selection of a pair of boots. Three stores were shopped until she found an acceptable pair. Tribulation is indeed great in this age.
Don't even ask me about the tribulation of the grocery store. Parking spaces were at a premium and the other drivers were not at all considerate of my need to get into the store.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Don't even ask me about the tribulation of the grocery store. Parking spaces were at a premium and the other drivers were not at all considerate of my need to get into the store.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Reads just like Revelation with all that wormwood and scorpions with deadly stingers in their tails stuff. Stars falling from the heavens and empty store shelves at Christmas just how much can I endure?
Babylon has fallen and the blood is deep as the bridle of the horse in the valley of Armageddon. Now we must face the terrible after Christmas sales and return of the multitude of gifts. Is there no end of this tribulation?
So much stuff where shall we turn for redemption?
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Babylon has fallen and the blood is deep as the bridle of the horse in the valley of Armageddon. Now we must face the terrible after Christmas sales and return of the multitude of gifts. Is there no end of this tribulation?
So much stuff where shall we turn for redemption?
For the cause of Christ
Roger
An important thing to remember about the end times.
The first period identified by Jesus is called birth-pangs. These include a series of troubling events prior to the start of the tribulation period, including false messiahs, wars, rumors of wars, famines, pestilences, and earthquakes (Matthew 24:4-8, Revelation 6:1-8). Scriptures do not identify the length of time for this period, but I believe it has already started.
Jesus called the next period the tribulation. During this time great numbers of believers are persecuted, hated, and killed by the antichrist world government. More false messiahs arise. Many believers fall away from the faith and lawlessness increases (Matthew 24:9-14, Revelation 6:9-11).
Jesus described the third period as the great tribulation. He identified it by saying, “immediately after the tribulation of those days” (Matthew 24:29) and “then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will” (Matthew 24:21).
This period is also called the day of the Lord. It begins with very ominous events unlike anything that has ever happened before, including a great shaking of heaven and earth, the sun is darkened, the moon does not give its light, the stars fall from the sky, the powers of the heavens are shaken, there are earthquakes, every mountain and island is removed from its place, and the sky is rolled up like a scroll (Matthew 24:21-31, Revelation 6:12-17). It then continues with the rapture of believers and the outpouring of the wrath of God.
The Great Tribulation is yet to come.
The first period identified by Jesus is called birth-pangs. These include a series of troubling events prior to the start of the tribulation period, including false messiahs, wars, rumors of wars, famines, pestilences, and earthquakes (Matthew 24:4-8, Revelation 6:1-8). Scriptures do not identify the length of time for this period, but I believe it has already started.
Jesus called the next period the tribulation. During this time great numbers of believers are persecuted, hated, and killed by the antichrist world government. More false messiahs arise. Many believers fall away from the faith and lawlessness increases (Matthew 24:9-14, Revelation 6:9-11).
Jesus described the third period as the great tribulation. He identified it by saying, “immediately after the tribulation of those days” (Matthew 24:29) and “then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will” (Matthew 24:21).
This period is also called the day of the Lord. It begins with very ominous events unlike anything that has ever happened before, including a great shaking of heaven and earth, the sun is darkened, the moon does not give its light, the stars fall from the sky, the powers of the heavens are shaken, there are earthquakes, every mountain and island is removed from its place, and the sky is rolled up like a scroll (Matthew 24:21-31, Revelation 6:12-17). It then continues with the rapture of believers and the outpouring of the wrath of God.
The Great Tribulation is yet to come.
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The birth pangs happened when Jesus returned from the dead. Tribulation for those who followed him started immediately, and got worse starting 30 years later. Become a Christian in Judea, you immediately lose your family, friends, and livelihood. In 70 AD Nero went for blood. Blood of that new cult called "Christians." And misery for the Jews who were stupid enough to think a Messiah was coming. Someone to replace him. They calmed down finally in the 3rd century.
The blotted out sun? Yup. That's what happened when they burned down Jerusalem. Couldn't see the sun for three days. Hardly could see it for some time afterward. The rivers of blood? The streets of Jerusalem. Ankle deep with blood while soldiers killed the inhabitants. Literally -- ankle deep in the gutters of Jerusalem. Bodies filled the outer court of the temple four feet high. Check out how big those outer courts were, because you haven't seen pictures of a mass burial from any war since with that many bodies. 100,000 Christians per DAY were being killed for the first four months of the decree. After that they killed any they could find. Alexandria actually got what they wanted. They wiped out every single Christian. Elsewhere the Christians hid in caves and catacombs. Hid there until Constantine made being a Christian the choice of his empire.
Why does that NOT count in your eyes?
The blotted out sun? Yup. That's what happened when they burned down Jerusalem. Couldn't see the sun for three days. Hardly could see it for some time afterward. The rivers of blood? The streets of Jerusalem. Ankle deep with blood while soldiers killed the inhabitants. Literally -- ankle deep in the gutters of Jerusalem. Bodies filled the outer court of the temple four feet high. Check out how big those outer courts were, because you haven't seen pictures of a mass burial from any war since with that many bodies. 100,000 Christians per DAY were being killed for the first four months of the decree. After that they killed any they could find. Alexandria actually got what they wanted. They wiped out every single Christian. Elsewhere the Christians hid in caves and catacombs. Hid there until Constantine made being a Christian the choice of his empire.
Why does that NOT count in your eyes?