Wages of Sin is Death..and Christians continue to Die - Why?

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Salvation of your Spirit is free - Salvation of your Soul and Body, you must work for by Sowing to the Spirit.

Until you acknowledge I Thessalonians 5:23 and quit hiding behind behind your tradition, you wont get it.
that verse describes your soul and body being sanctified by God Himself. I'm not sure why you think this means we have to work to keep our self saved.
 
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I think some people think you must be perfect yes. I do not.
We are to be, but most do not understand what that means. God sends the sun and rain on both the good and the bad. We are simply to love both the same. That is perfection to God!
 
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that verse describes your soul and body being sanctified by God Himself. I'm not sure why you think this means we have to work to keep our self saved.
Right. And if you a fully sanctified, you won't die, because you will be fully in the Light which there is no death.

Please acknowledge John 6:49-50 and Rom 8:13 as provided you above.
 
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We are to be, but most do not understand what that means. God sends the sun and rain on both the good and the bad. We are simply to love both the same. That is perfection to God!
I can see you won't let scripture get in your way.
 

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Right. And if you a fully sanctified, you won't die, because you will be fully in the Light which there is no death.

Please acknowledge John 6:49-50 and Rom 8:13 as provided you above.
Not until you tell me the cut off line when you know you have done enough good works to keep yourself to going to heaven.

I addressed one of your scriptures, now please address my questions.
 

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Psalm 99

6Moses and Aaron among his priests, and Samuel among them that call upon his name; they called upon the LORD, and he answered them.

7He spake unto them in the cloudy pillar: they kept his testimonies, and the ordinance that he gave them.

8Thou answeredst them, O LORD our God: thou wast a God that forgavest them, though thou tookest vengeance of their inventions.

9Exalt the LORD our God, and worship at his holy hill; for the LORD our God is holy.

this should help God bless
 
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Not until you tell me the cut off line when you know you have done enough good works to keep yourself to going to heaven.

I addressed one of your scriptures, now please address my questions.
First please provide your scripture about dying and "going to heaven" - I am already in Heavenly Places (Ephesians 2:6).

Jesus was in Heaven walking on Earth - John 3:13.

Maybe we should start a new thread on the topic of Heaven, based on what the Bible actually says. Oh oh.
 

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First please provide your scripture about dying and "going to heaven" - I am already in Heavenly Places (Ephesians 2:6).

Jesus was in Heaven walking on Earth - John 3:13.

Maybe we should start a new thread on the topic of Heaven, based on what the Bible actually says. Oh oh.
what? who are you? what denomination are you?
 
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what? who are you? what denomination are you?
What? -
Can't you read?

Who Am I? -
The Seed of Abraham (Galatians 3:9)

What Denomination?
Not the Non-Denominational Denomination - I am of the Order of Melchizedek, the Priesthood of Jesus Christ, as you read Hebrews chapters 5,6, and 7.
 

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What? -
Can't you read?

Who Am I? -
The Seed of Abraham (Galatians 3:9)

What Denomination?
Not the Non-Denominational Denomination - I am of the Order of Melchizedek, the Priesthood of Jesus Christ, as you read Hebrews chapters 5,6, and 7.
oh, ok. cool. got cha.
 
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What does this even mean??? I'm not a book. This is my life.
Hosea4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge; because you have rejected knowledge, I reject you from being a priest to me. And since you have forgotten the law of your God, I also will forget your children.

My Bible warns me without the knowledge of the book we are condemned to hell...
 
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Hosea4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge; because you have rejected knowledge, I reject you from being a priest to me. And since you have forgotten the law of your God, I also will forget your children.

My Bible warns me without the knowledge of the book we are condemned to hell...
No, no now. That's not what it says. It says for lack of knowledge, not lack of knowledge "of the book."
 
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No, no now. That's not what it says. It says for lack of knowledge, not lack of knowledge "of the book."
LOL yeah I get it, so for the lack of knowledge understanding my car's engine I am not going to make it into heaven... I should go on that course as quickly as possible.
 
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LOL yeah I get it, so for the lack of knowledge understanding my car's engine I am not going to make it into heaven... I should go on that course as quickly as possible.
Doesn't say that either. I'm sure if the Gentiles without the law can figure this out, you surely can. I mean listen to you all. The bible wasn't made available to the people until AFTER the printing press was invented. What year was that in? What of those who died long before this event in history? They died as well from lack of knowledge.
 
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Hosea4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge; because you have rejected knowledge, I reject you from being a priest to me. And since you have forgotten the law of your God, I also will forget your children.

My Bible warns me without the knowledge of the book we are condemned to hell...
Hell? That is a name of the pagan goddess of the underworld in Norse mythology.
Google it.
 
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Doesn't say that either. I'm sure if the Gentiles without the law can figure this out, you surely can. I mean listen to you all. The bible wasn't made available to the people until AFTER the printing press was invented. What year was that in? What of those who died long before this event in history? They died as well from lack of knowledge.
I don't understand your point? If you die without Yeshua in your life you are going to hell. David knew Him, Moses knew Him, Abraham knew him etc. They had a personal relationship with Him. Everything they believed was in-line with the Word of God. Can you say that?

Isaiah64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

In the days when Yeshua walked the earth He didn't own a Bible! He went to the temple along with everybody else to read from the scrolls. We are not placed on earth to judge and we don't fully understand the grace of God... but if you have a Bible you don't have an excuse for a lack of knowledge now do you?
 
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Hell? That is a name of the pagan goddess of the underworld in Norse mythology.
Google it.
Ok lake of fire then. You are nit-picking because you don't have anything more to add...
 
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Ok lake of fire then. You are nit-picking because you don't have anything more to add...
You should begin by actually reading your Bible, rather than listening to Wolves in Sheeps clothing:

Revelation 20:14 And death and hades (translated with pagan name Hell) were cast into the Lake of Fire: This is the Second Death.

Hmm - pagan, babylonian preachers who parade as "Five Fold Ministries", tell you Hell is the Lake of Fire - that is not what the Bible says.