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Scriptually speaking the mark of Yahweh is undisputible, problem is most the religious world calls what Yahweh says is HIS MARK, a curse......
Exodus 13:9, "And it shall be as a *sign to you upon your hand and as a memorial between your eyes, that Yahweh's Law shall be in your mouth; for with a strong hand Yahweh has brought you out of Egypt."
*Sign is Word #226, Hebrew Dictionary, Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, meaning mark, token, sign, consent, flag, evidence of consent.
Exodus 31:13-17, "Speak also to the children of Israyl, saying; Surely My Sabbaths you shall keep, for they are a *sign between Me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I am Yahweh Who sanctifies you, and makes you holy"....16-17, "Therefore the children of Israyl shall keep the Sabbath, to observe the Sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant. It is a sign between Me and the children of Israyl forever, for in six days Yahweh made the heavens and the earth, and on the Seventh Day He rested and was refreshed."
*Sign is Word #226, Hebrew Dictionary, Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, meaning mark, token, sign, consent, flag, evidence of consent.
Ezekiel 20:12, "Moreover, I also gave them My Sabbaths, to be a *sign between Me and them, that they might know that I am Yahweh Who sanctifies them."
*Sign is Word #226, Hebrew Dictionary, Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, meaning mark, token, sign, consent, flag, evidence of consent.
Romans 9:6-8, "However, it is not as though Yahweh's plan had failed. For it is not everyone who is a descendant of Israyl who belongs to Israyl. Nor, just because they are his descendants, are they all Abraham's children; but: In Isaac will your seed be called. That is, it is not those who are the children of the flesh who are Yahweh's children; but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham's seed."
Galations 3:28,29, "Is there not the Yahdai as well as the Greek; Gentile? Is there not the slave as well as the freeman? Is there not the male and the female? For all of you must be in unity in Yahshua Messiah. And if you are in Messiah, then
you are a seed of Abraham, heirs according to the promise."
Isayah 56:1-7, "This is what Yahweh says: Keep the judgments, and do justly; for My salvation is near, soon, to come, and My righteousness to be revealed. Blessed is the man who does this, and the son of man who lays hold on it; who keeps the Sabbaths without polluting; defiling, them; and keeps his hand from doing dany evil. Do not let the son of the Gentile, who has joined himself to Yahweh, speak, saying; Yahweh has utterly separated me from His people. Nor let the eunuch say; Behold, I am a dry tree. For this is what Yahweh says: To the eunuchs who keep My Sabbaths, and choose those things which eplease Me, and hold fast to My covenant: I will give to them, in My House, even within My walls, a place and a Name equal to that of sons and of daughters; I will give them the Name of The Everlasting: YAHWEH; which will not be cut off. Also the sons of the Gentile who join themselves to Yahweh, to serve Him, and to love the Name of Yahweh, to be His servants--everyone who keeps the Sabbaths without polluting; defiling, them and who holds fast to My covenant--I will bring them to My holy mountain, and make them joyful in My House of prayer..."
The word Sunday was never once metioned in my post, I simply used SCRIPTURE to show YAHWEH HIMSELF says the Sabbath is HIS mark, who are we to argue with Yahweh?
But since you mentioned Sunday...
Exodus 20:8-10, "Remember the Sabbath Day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, But the Seventh Day is the Sabbath of Yahweh your Heavenly Father. In it you shall do no work.."
Its been certified 7th day Sabbath is NOT a tradition of man....
Now where is you verse Commanding to keep Sunday? Or is that the tradition of man?
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No one is arguing with Christ. It is your poor interpretation of Scripture that is questioned, nothing in those verses shows that woshipping on Saturday is the mark.of God. The traditionally taught doctrine of Saturday sabbath keepers that says the seal or mark of God is keeping sabbath on Saturday is nothing more then Saturday sabbath keepers twisting Scripture to fit their doctrine, that makes the word of God of none effect. We should adjust our doctrines to fit Scripture, not twist Scripture to fit our doctrines!
Mar 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
Mar 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
I agree every day one shol=uld do the work of Yahweh, however the 7th day is set apart from creation and I honor by dedicating 100% to Yahweh, something that is IMPOSSIBLE to do every day of the week.
Sabbath helps me to walk in the ways of Yahweh the rest of the week also becase it is a training time with Yahweh's Spirit thus producing a sober and level head to face this world with.
HalleluYAHWEH!
Sabbath helps me to walk in the ways of Yahweh the rest of the week also becase it is a training time with Yahweh's Spirit thus producing a sober and level head to face this world with.
HalleluYAHWEH!
E
Thats funny, I do worship God with everything I have every day. It is not impossible. The NT worship is not the same as God asked in the old. It is daily sacrificing ourselves for his purpose in all we do.
However, i do REST on saturday, As God did. But this is not worshiping him, This is doing what he wants me to because it is to MY Benefit.
As he said, the sabbath he gave to us for OUR benefit. Not his.
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However, i do REST on saturday, As God did. But this is not worshiping him, This is doing what he wants me to because it is to MY Benefit.
As he said, the sabbath he gave to us for OUR benefit. Not his.
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Genesis 17:11
You are to undergo circumcision, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and you.
and how did that all end up?
Galatians 5:6
5For we through the Spirit, by faith, are waiting for the hope of righteousness. 6For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything, but faith working through love. 7You were running well; who hindered you from obeying the truth?
Hizikyah, if the Sinai Sabbath(s) are THE thing that God looks at to decide who He will save....i wonder why Jesus didn't constantly warns us of that...and why not ONE single NT writer listed sabbath-keeping as a command in the NT?
can you just get a clear command on that?
(inferences and saying - oh it would be obvious - no need to mention.....doesn't count - argument from silence = NO).
You are to undergo circumcision, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and you.
and how did that all end up?
Galatians 5:6
5For we through the Spirit, by faith, are waiting for the hope of righteousness. 6For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything, but faith working through love. 7You were running well; who hindered you from obeying the truth?
Hizikyah, if the Sinai Sabbath(s) are THE thing that God looks at to decide who He will save....i wonder why Jesus didn't constantly warns us of that...and why not ONE single NT writer listed sabbath-keeping as a command in the NT?
can you just get a clear command on that?
(inferences and saying - oh it would be obvious - no need to mention.....doesn't count - argument from silence = NO).
PS...
In the NT there is eally not much LISTED INSTRUCTIONS, its modern teacing that rejects all Yahweh's Instructions throughtout history all the Apostles kept and followers of the Messiah kept. Yahshua Himself upheld the Sabbath, and never once is it said one shouldnt keep Sabbath in the NT. It is the people that never honored it that dont fully understand it.
Think about it, the is one 1 Command that shows the authority of the Creator. Muslims say dont steal. Krishnas say be a nice guy. but only 1 Command says you are honoring the Creator of all that is.
In the NT there is eally not much LISTED INSTRUCTIONS, its modern teacing that rejects all Yahweh's Instructions throughtout history all the Apostles kept and followers of the Messiah kept. Yahshua Himself upheld the Sabbath, and never once is it said one shouldnt keep Sabbath in the NT. It is the people that never honored it that dont fully understand it.
Think about it, the is one 1 Command that shows the authority of the Creator. Muslims say dont steal. Krishnas say be a nice guy. but only 1 Command says you are honoring the Creator of all that is.
D
The verse wouldn't make sense if the word translated as sign actually meant mark. But if you want to ignore the plain and simple language of the verse then by all means continue jumping through hoops to forcefit Scripture to match your doctrine. Personally I am of the opinion we should adjust our doctrine to make it match Scripture, instead of force fitting Scripture, like you do, to match the Scripturally bankrupt view you continue to espouse.
M
Agreed! Anyway one might spin these verses, the definition of αντιχριστος (antichrist, a plural noun) remains, since at least the time of Tertullian (d. 222 CE), the same: an adversary/opponent/opposer/resister of Jesus in his role as the Christian Messiah (see, e.g., Strong's #G550; Moulton Greek Lex.-Revised; Mounce, Expository Dictionary #532).
Ezekiel 20:12, "Moreover, I also gave them My Sabbaths, to be a *sign between Me and them, that they might know that I am Yahweh Who sanctifies them."
*Sign is Word #226, Hebrew Dictionary, Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, meaning mark, token, sign, consent, flag, evidence of consent.
the ORIGINAL WORD MEANS MARK
*Sign is Word #226, Hebrew Dictionary, Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, meaning mark, token, sign, consent, flag, evidence of consent.
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Matthew 23 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 2 “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat.3 So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.
Never been a more important time in history when we should obey each and every commandment and live by the gospel not by what we have been told is acceptable
Never been a more important time in history when we should obey each and every commandment and live by the gospel not by what we have been told is acceptable
I want to share something with you my brother: (also if you have ANY questions I would be glad to offer what I can)
Every translation reads as such, as all Greek texts read this way:
New International Version Mt 23:2-3
"The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach."
King James Bible Mt 23:2-3
"Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not."
However Yahweh has left us truth!
Shem Tob's Hebrew Mattithyah
Mattithyah 23:2-3, "The Pharisees and Sages sit upon the seat of Mosheh. Therefore, all that he (Mosheh) says to you, diligently do, but according to thier takanot (reforms) and thier ma'asim (precedents) do not do, because they talk (Torah) but they do not do."
Takanot: reforms or enactments that (falsely) "change or add" to Yahweh's Law.
Ma'asim: acts or deeds that serve as precedents for rabbinic law.
Both Takanot and Ma'asim are laws of the Talmud.
THIS IS THE BURDEN!
Deuteronomy 4:2, "You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor shall you take anything from it, so that you may keep the Laws of Yahweh your Father which I command you."
The "rabbis" interpret Scripture by something called Midrashic interpretation, which ignores language and ignores context. They say Scripture is a divne code and only the rabbis have the knowledge to decipher that divine code. Here is an ACTUAL example of Midrashic interpretation used by the rabbis:
They take Exodus 23:2, "Do not follow the crowd in doing evil. When you give testimony in a lawsuit, do not pervert justice by siding with the crowd."
After Midrashic interpretation is applied, they come out with : "follow the crowd."
Thus even when one disagrees or knows something is wrong he must, "follow the crowd," or as the Talmud puts it in Baba Metzia 59b (top of post), "after the majority must one incline."
Deuteronomy 30:11-13, "For this Law which I command you this day is not hidden from you, nor is it beyond your reach. It is not up in heaven, so that you have to ask; Who will ascend up into heaven for us, and bring it to us, so that we may hear it and then do it? Nor is it beyond the sea, so that you have to ask; Who will cross the sea, and bring it to us, so that we may hear it and then do it?"
After Midrashic interpretation is applied, they come out with : "‘It is not in heaven.’4 What did he mean by this? — Said R. Jeremiah: That the Torah had already been given at Mount Sinai; we pay no attention to a Heavenly Voice" (Baba Metzia 59b)
Mattithyah 15:2-3, "Why do Your disciples transgress the traditions of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat. But He answered, and said to them:
And why do you transgress the Laws of Yahweh by your traditions?"
Mattithyah 15:8-9, "These people draw near to Me with their mouth and honor Me with their lips, but have removed their hearts far from Me. But in vain they do worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men."
Talmud - Mas. Sanhedrin 57a
‘For murder, whether of a Cuthean by a Cuthean, or of an Israelite by a Cuthean, punishment is incurred; but of a Cuthean by an Israelite, there is no death penalty.
Talmud - Mas. Pesachim 111a
Resh Lakish said: There are four actions for which he who does them has his blood on his own head and forfeits his life,3 viz.: easing oneself between a palm tree and the wall passing between two palm trees; drinking borrowed water, and passing over spilt water, even if his wife poured it out in his presence. ‘Easing oneself between a palm tree and the wall’: this was said only if there is not four cubits,4 but if he leaves four cubits it does not matter. And even if he does not leave four cubits [space], it was said only where there is no other path;5 but if there is another path, it does not mat."
Talmud - Mas. Baba Metzia 114b
For it has been taught: R. Simeon b. Yohai said: The graves of Gentiles do not defile, forit is written, And ye my flock, the flock of my pastures, are men;5 only ye are designated ‘men’
Talmud Moed Kattan 17a
Rabbi Ila'i said: If a person is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known, dress in black clothes, cover his head in black, and do what his heart desires.
The Talmud has Sabbath laws where you can only walk 40 steps (or something similar) and you can only eat 2 meals on the Sabbath or your cursed. (THIS IS THE BURDEN YAHSHUA SPOKE OF). However if you walk 40 steps then bury your lunch, you can then walk 40 more steps and bury your dinner, then walk 40 more steps and place you cot, then walk 40 more steps.Foolishness to get people to be in submission to man or to make people not eventry to follow (what they thought) was the Creator's Law.
Also know that I chose the most non-offensive sections of the Talmud I could and still prove my point, as there are things in there that will turn a grown man's stomach. I hope this helped you to understand a little more about Yahshua's words.
This first video is from a FORMER modern Pharisee, and he can shed more light and details on the topic than I can as he GREW UP IN THIS TEACHING, but is in it no longer.
The Hebrew Yeshua vs. the Greek Jesus - YouTube
Every translation reads as such, as all Greek texts read this way:
New International Version Mt 23:2-3
"The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach."
King James Bible Mt 23:2-3
"Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not."
However Yahweh has left us truth!
Shem Tob's Hebrew Mattithyah
Mattithyah 23:2-3, "The Pharisees and Sages sit upon the seat of Mosheh. Therefore, all that he (Mosheh) says to you, diligently do, but according to thier takanot (reforms) and thier ma'asim (precedents) do not do, because they talk (Torah) but they do not do."
Takanot: reforms or enactments that (falsely) "change or add" to Yahweh's Law.
Ma'asim: acts or deeds that serve as precedents for rabbinic law.
Both Takanot and Ma'asim are laws of the Talmud.
THIS IS THE BURDEN!
Deuteronomy 4:2, "You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor shall you take anything from it, so that you may keep the Laws of Yahweh your Father which I command you."
The "rabbis" interpret Scripture by something called Midrashic interpretation, which ignores language and ignores context. They say Scripture is a divne code and only the rabbis have the knowledge to decipher that divine code. Here is an ACTUAL example of Midrashic interpretation used by the rabbis:
They take Exodus 23:2, "Do not follow the crowd in doing evil. When you give testimony in a lawsuit, do not pervert justice by siding with the crowd."
After Midrashic interpretation is applied, they come out with : "follow the crowd."
Thus even when one disagrees or knows something is wrong he must, "follow the crowd," or as the Talmud puts it in Baba Metzia 59b (top of post), "after the majority must one incline."
Deuteronomy 30:11-13, "For this Law which I command you this day is not hidden from you, nor is it beyond your reach. It is not up in heaven, so that you have to ask; Who will ascend up into heaven for us, and bring it to us, so that we may hear it and then do it? Nor is it beyond the sea, so that you have to ask; Who will cross the sea, and bring it to us, so that we may hear it and then do it?"
After Midrashic interpretation is applied, they come out with : "‘It is not in heaven.’4 What did he mean by this? — Said R. Jeremiah: That the Torah had already been given at Mount Sinai; we pay no attention to a Heavenly Voice" (Baba Metzia 59b)
Mattithyah 15:2-3, "Why do Your disciples transgress the traditions of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat. But He answered, and said to them:
And why do you transgress the Laws of Yahweh by your traditions?"
Mattithyah 15:8-9, "These people draw near to Me with their mouth and honor Me with their lips, but have removed their hearts far from Me. But in vain they do worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men."
Talmud - Mas. Sanhedrin 57a
‘For murder, whether of a Cuthean by a Cuthean, or of an Israelite by a Cuthean, punishment is incurred; but of a Cuthean by an Israelite, there is no death penalty.
Talmud - Mas. Pesachim 111a
Resh Lakish said: There are four actions for which he who does them has his blood on his own head and forfeits his life,3 viz.: easing oneself between a palm tree and the wall passing between two palm trees; drinking borrowed water, and passing over spilt water, even if his wife poured it out in his presence. ‘Easing oneself between a palm tree and the wall’: this was said only if there is not four cubits,4 but if he leaves four cubits it does not matter. And even if he does not leave four cubits [space], it was said only where there is no other path;5 but if there is another path, it does not mat."
Talmud - Mas. Baba Metzia 114b
For it has been taught: R. Simeon b. Yohai said: The graves of Gentiles do not defile, forit is written, And ye my flock, the flock of my pastures, are men;5 only ye are designated ‘men’
Talmud Moed Kattan 17a
Rabbi Ila'i said: If a person is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known, dress in black clothes, cover his head in black, and do what his heart desires.
The Talmud has Sabbath laws where you can only walk 40 steps (or something similar) and you can only eat 2 meals on the Sabbath or your cursed. (THIS IS THE BURDEN YAHSHUA SPOKE OF). However if you walk 40 steps then bury your lunch, you can then walk 40 more steps and bury your dinner, then walk 40 more steps and place you cot, then walk 40 more steps.Foolishness to get people to be in submission to man or to make people not eventry to follow (what they thought) was the Creator's Law.
Also know that I chose the most non-offensive sections of the Talmud I could and still prove my point, as there are things in there that will turn a grown man's stomach. I hope this helped you to understand a little more about Yahshua's words.
This first video is from a FORMER modern Pharisee, and he can shed more light and details on the topic than I can as he GREW UP IN THIS TEACHING, but is in it no longer.
The Hebrew Yeshua vs. the Greek Jesus - YouTube