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The natural man will not choose eternal life 1 Cor 2:14. In Deut 30:19, the "life" is not eternal life, but an aboundant life we can enjoy here in this world by following his commandments and "death" is a seperation from a fellowship with God, not eternal death. The meaning of death is "a seperation". Ps 53:2, God looked down from heaven upon the children of men to see if there were any that did understand, that did seek God. Every one of them is gone back, they are altogether become filthy, there is none that doeth good, no, not one. No one would believe God until God quickens them to eternal life. Eph 2:1-5. 1 Cor 2:14.
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You're teaching false doctrine. God has made elect before the very foundation of the world those whom he foreknew would believe in him and accept him of their own choice. His sacrifice was for the sin of all the nations of the earth but not all will accept him and those who don't are not of the elect because they Chose not to be and God did not choose them because they did not accept him. They denied him, he denied them. That is, those who Never accept Jesus into their heart.
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1. in Grk. writ. fr. Hom, down, an apt and harmonious arrangement or constitution, order.
2. as in Grk. writ. fr. Hom, down, ornament, decoration, adornment:
3. the world, i.e. the universe
4. the circle of the earth, the earth
5. the inhabitants of the world:
6. the ungodly multitude; the whole mass of men alienated from God, and therefore hostile to the cause of Christ
7. worldly affairs; the aggregate of things earthly; the whole circle of earthly goods, endowments, riches, advantages, pleasures, etc., which, although hollow and frail and fleeting, stir desire, seduce from God and are obstacles to the cause of Christ:
8. any aggregate or general collection of particulars of any sort
Thayer, J. H. (1889). A Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament: Being Grimm's Wilke's Clavis Novi Testamenti (357). New York: Harper & Brothers.
Funny how out of ALL 8 Defenitions. NOT ONE has what you said he said. why is that??
2. as in Grk. writ. fr. Hom, down, ornament, decoration, adornment:
3. the world, i.e. the universe
4. the circle of the earth, the earth
5. the inhabitants of the world:
6. the ungodly multitude; the whole mass of men alienated from God, and therefore hostile to the cause of Christ
7. worldly affairs; the aggregate of things earthly; the whole circle of earthly goods, endowments, riches, advantages, pleasures, etc., which, although hollow and frail and fleeting, stir desire, seduce from God and are obstacles to the cause of Christ:
8. any aggregate or general collection of particulars of any sort
Thayer, J. H. (1889). A Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament: Being Grimm's Wilke's Clavis Novi Testamenti (357). New York: Harper & Brothers.
Funny how out of ALL 8 Defenitions. NOT ONE has what you said he said. why is that??
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Now you lean to the Greek definitions found in the lexicons to interpret the Bible?
What about Acts 2:38?
You didn't care what the Greek scholars said, nor all the credible lexicons, including Thayer, nor the Bible translations?
You still hold that your Greek knowledge is Superior to all these proofs.
Now you are using them to defend your arguments? You are a hypocrite.
What about Acts 2:38?
You didn't care what the Greek scholars said, nor all the credible lexicons, including Thayer, nor the Bible translations?
You still hold that your Greek knowledge is Superior to all these proofs.
Now you are using them to defend your arguments? You are a hypocrite.
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The elect are all who obey the gospel and submit to God. We have the choice do so or not. Before the world God knew He would send Christ so that we can make the choice to submit or not, that is how the elect are chosen before the world began. The choice is still ours.
I do not read of anywhere in the Bible of us "accepting Jesus into our hearts", we must be accepted by Him, and many will not be though they though otherwise.
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
I do not read of anywhere in the Bible of us "accepting Jesus into our hearts", we must be accepted by Him, and many will not be though they though otherwise.
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
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No one will be accepted by any good deeds. because there are not enough good deeds on earth one could do to make up for the penalty of sin (death) only death can make up for death.
These people who did all those good deeds in the name of Christ tried to work their way to heaven. thus they were praising their own good works. Jesus stated a fact. HE NEVER KNEW THEM. why? they were never once made a child of God, given eternal life. or chose Christ. They loved their sin (yes pride is a sin and trying to earn salvation by works is pride) more than they loved God.
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So you believe that obeying God's commands is trying to earn salvation?
It is prideful to think you do not have to do what Christ, the Apostles, and the every Christan we read of in the New Testament, HAD TO DO - that is obey God.
I have given you much proof, you are unwilling to accept anything no matter how much it destroys your arguments, the only reason I am still refuting you is for the sake of others reading your false preaching.
It is prideful to think you do not have to do what Christ, the Apostles, and the every Christan we read of in the New Testament, HAD TO DO - that is obey God.
I have given you much proof, you are unwilling to accept anything no matter how much it destroys your arguments, the only reason I am still refuting you is for the sake of others reading your false preaching.
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So if they were trying to work their way to heaven and were rejected, there faith did not save them.
This means there WORKS prevented them from entering heaven?
If there salvation was taken away due to their pride and works, how is salvation not based on works??
Please explain, because this seems inconsistent with "faith only" because they had faith, otherwise they would not have done any kinds of works.
So if they were trying to work their way to heaven and were rejected, there faith did not save them.
This means there WORKS prevented them from entering heaven?
If there salvation was taken away due to their pride and works, how is salvation not based on works??
Please explain, because this seems inconsistent with "faith only" because they had faith, otherwise they would not have done any kinds of works.