woman not allowed to teach men amd a question

[garee]

I know women are not to teach men but if a man is wrong in something pertaining to the bible what then should we do? Tell another man and let him decipher the truth of it before telling the man?

But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1 Tim 2:12

That is a cerimoinal law it governs ceremonies when more than one family gathers together. It is not intended for outside of the ceremonies. The hair covering for the woman and uncovering for the men are part of the ceremonial law that as a shadow points to the wedding supper of the bride in heaven . She is made up of male and female as a new creation. Its goal is that the only glory to be seen when like minded Christians gather together is the invisible glory of God represented by the ceremonial law.

She becomes the pastor of the home. Her husband represents Christ the unseen.

Its where he should be silent and love her as Christ loves the church as a representative glory.

 

[maxwel]

Well, Jesus choose a woman as the first evangelist.

He probably picked a woman who could cook.

 

[oldethennew]

That is a cerimoinal law it governs ceremonies when more than one family gathers together. It is not intended for outside of the ceremonies. The hair covering for the woman and uncovering for the men are part of the ceremonial law that as a shadow points to the wedding supper of the bride in heaven . She is made up of male and female as a new creation. Its goal is that the only glory to be seen when like minded Christians gather together is the invisible glory of God represented by the ceremonial law.
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if a Post is written from a 'true heart', like the words and intent of this post, then,
'this is indeed a masterpiece inspired by The Master...

 

[hornetguy]

I think that would mean Old Hermit gets it wrong. You are saying that the prohibition pertains to marriage, not the assembly.

The point is that there is no blanket prohibition on women teaching in Church, let's get this straight.

Women can teach women, and a woman as part of a married couple can teach.

Even a single woman, who would be under the authority of her parents, ergo father, can teach.

But Paul has created structural accountability; the point being that women are easily seduced, and therefore unless under authority can likely bring in false doctrines.

Reading comprehension doesn't seem to be your strong suit.

Paul's prohibition was to women in the assembly at Corinth.

Priscilla and Aquilla were a husband and wife who BOTH taught Apollos, indicating it is ok for a woman to teach a man, just not in the assembly... possibly only the assembly at Corinth, the way some people understand it.

Comprende' ?

 

[J7]

You are dragging the forum down, to knuckle level. I am guessing that carrying guns allows you to assume that you can talk to people like they are manure? If you talked like that to me in normal conversation I'd batter you. Disgusting way to talk to someone actually. Not acceptable. Get it?

Getting back to scripture.

Paul's counsel is not limited to the assembly, OldHermit has confused you by bringing the assembly into it.

The advisory on dress and the advisory on teaching are two separate matters. Silly little comments on 'reading comprehension' do not help, as the translation of the Greek gyne and aner, man and woman, is the issue here.

Go away and learn some manners and then I might speak with you.

Reading comprehension doesn't seem to be your strong suit.

Paul's prohibition was to women in the assembly at Corinth.

Priscilla and Aquilla were a husband and wife who BOTH taught Apollos, indicating it is ok for a woman to teach a man, just not in the assembly... possibly only the assembly at Corinth, the way some people understand it.

Comprende' ?

 

[Depleted]

He probably picked a woman who could cook.

Since the fastest way into a man's heart is through his stomach, obviously. lol

 

[Depleted]

Hornet, as Mom used to say, "There are none so blind as those who don't wish to see."

You are dragging the forum down, to knuckle level. I am guessing that carrying guns allows you to assume that you can talk to people like they are manure? If you talked like that to me in normal conversation I'd batter you. Disgusting way to talk to someone actually. Not acceptable. Get it?

Getting back to scripture.

Paul's counsel is not limited to the assembly, OldHermit has confused you by bringing the assembly into it.

The advisory on dress and the advisory on teaching are two separate matters. Silly little comments on 'reading comprehension' do not help, as the translation of the Greek gyne and aner, man and woman, is the issue here.

Go away and learn some manners and then I might speak with you.

 

[J7]

lol. the ***** has chimed in. I am glad we have you confined to a forum Depleted.

 

[hornetguy]

Hornet, as Mom used to say, "There are none so blind as those who don't wish to see."

Yes. It's not worth the effort. I'm not sure what the problem is, but it seems to be systemic.

 

[IamWhoIam]

Can you show scripture to prove this? In the bible from what I know, it's ot says women cannot teach men because Eve was the one who believed the snake instead of God and convinced Adam.

13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
1 Tim 2:13-14

[video=youtube;uIdk2oX9wLk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIdk2oX9wLk[/video]

 

[DustyRhodes]

Thank you very much. That helps tremendously!

Scripture has president for women teachers, for example,

Romans 16, verses one and two.
"I commend to you our sister Phoebe, who is a servant of the church which is at Cenchrea; that you receive her in the Lord in a manner worthy of the saints, and that you help her in whatever matter she may have need of you; for she herself has also been a helper of many, and of myself as well." Amen.

in acts 16 there were several others including Lydia. If you correct with love, there is absolutely
no problem in correcting, woman or otherwise. In fact you are doing the will of Christ by loving
your neighbor.

 

[Lighthearted]

A husband and wife are of one body and questioning is part of learning and as long as it's done gently and respectfully it should only strengthen your ability to communicate and share God's word.

 

[oldethennew]

You are dragging the forum down, to knuckle level. I am guessing that carrying guns allows you to assume that you can talk to people like they are manure? If you talked like that to me in normal conversation I'd batter you. Disgusting way to talk to someone actually. Not acceptable. Get it?

Getting back to scripture.

Paul's counsel is not limited to the assembly, OldHermit has confused you by bringing the assembly into it.

The advisory on dress and the advisory on teaching are two separate matters. Silly little comments on 'reading comprehension' do not help, as the translation of the Greek gyne and aner, man and woman, is the issue here.

Go away and learn some manners and then I might speak with you.

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j7,
you are very 'thin-skinned': if someone's words happen to offend us,
they are also teaching us how to better handle the matter with showing
Christ's Love in our words, no matter what we feel led to say...

and by the way, over here, we who serve our Master, tend not to 'batter' or even
'think of battering'...(may feel like spanking sometimes, yes, battering, NO!)
this is not Christ's Way...
'A soft answer breaketh a bone'...of course, not in every instance, but you get the gist...

 

[oldethennew]

lol. the ***** has chimed in. I am glad we have you confined to a forum Depleted.

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for one who is not young anymore', your 'lack of emotional control' is worrisome...
you've allowed raw-rudeness' to become a part of yourself...
we all have to work on ourselves each and every day of our lives,
to be able to 'walk as He walked and Loved'...

 

[Lighthearted]

He probably picked a woman who could cook.

Of course Maxwell...who else was going to cook for all the men who burned frozen burritos in the microwave? Lol

 

[hornetguy]

Of course Maxwell...who else was going to cook for all the men who burned frozen burritos in the microwave? Lol

some of us men do MOST of the cooking in our household....

and, come to think of it.... I was taught by a woman!

 

[Depleted]

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j7,
you are very 'thin-skinned': if someone's words happen to offend us,
they are also teaching us how to better handle the matter with showing
Christ's Love in our words, no matter what we feel led to say...

and by the way, over here, we who serve our Master, tend not to 'batter' or even
'think of battering'...(may feel like spanking sometimes, yes, battering, NO!)
this is not Christ's Way...
'A soft answer breaketh a bone'...of course, not in every instance, but you get the gist...

Mrs., right? I'm just thinking Mr. would have used "switch," not "spank." lol

 

[Depleted]

some of us men do MOST of the cooking in our household....

and, come to think of it.... I was taught by a woman!

I tended to teach the guys in my family why they didn't want me to cook. lol

(Although, after a mere 25 years of effort, I have become good at desserts.)

 

[Mem]

A husband and wife are of one body and questioning is part of learning and as long as it's done gently and respectfully it should only strengthen your ability to communicate and share God's word.

Instructions specific to husbands and wives is what I'd like to get at here in the OP's question. There are several instances in 1 Corinthians 11 regarding roles in worship that use the same word translation of man and/or woman within the same verse but differing variations in the Greek although containing the same root. Unfortunately, I am not a Greek scholar to be able to tell if and when a word might indicate women/men in general and husbands/wives in particular.

When considering that the wedding ring ceremony is actually of Roman origin, and the traditional custom among Hebrews is for women to wear head coverings only after they are married, I think being able to delineate these particular distinctions in the text is key to a better understanding of exactly what is expected of all of us, as well as what may. or may not, be forbidden.

 

[oldethennew]

Mrs., right? I'm just thinking Mr. would have used "switch," not "spank." lol

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oh Lynnie,
you are a 'hoot' - but', we do still like to 'play spank'... - can you even imagine?!?!?
and at our 'advanced-age'...