YOUR STANDING IS WRAPPED UP IN JESUS

[Snoozy]

So far, the only Hyper-grace teacher with a true doctorate.
BTW, that doctorate is in philisophy.

Colossians 2:8
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

 

[7seasrekeyed]

How about the Bible? Does that matter? Probably not. Its old covenant aint it? I mean Jesus did say His words last forever but, He didnt really mean that, I heard a guy in a suit tell me something different on TV.

As long as Jesus is mentioned its great. Right? Thats the gospel. WOW everyone is getting saved. REVIVAL!
These brave men of God, they risk their life to preach in the United States, they risk their life to ask for that private jet from their congregations. I mean imagine the persecution they go through! Someone probably says something negative about them on the internet, those poor souls, if only they had millions of dollar$ to comfort themselves with.
How do they have such bravery? What courageous men are these. I wouldnt wanna throw hands with these tough guys thats for sure!

mheh

the ONLY way these false teachers have managed to gather all the itching ears to themselves, is BECAUSE they preach a watered down version of scripture which they mistakenly refer to as Paul's gospel since Paul and Jesus did not preach the same thing according to THEIR false gospel

ignore what Jesus said! ignore the example of the prayer He taught His disciples! Jesus was under the law! that's passed away so don't even bother!

it's blasphemy and some of their followers do not even realize because they are deceived and have been caught up in the deception

however, if you go about actually teaching this stuff, then you are spreading the blasphemy and may God have mercy on such

believing and teaching are not the same. the onus is on the teachers and they have the responsibility. however, it is more than obvious that many were never called by the Lord to begin with

 

[Hizikyah]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 24:35, “Heaven and earth may pass away, but My teachings will not pass away.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 10:27-30, "My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. And I give them eternal life, and they will never perish; neither will any man snatch them out of My hand. My Father, Who gave them to Me, is greater than all; and no man is able to snatch them out of My Father's hand: I and My Father are in accord."

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 John/Yahanan 1:9, "Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of the Messiah, does not have Yah. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son."[/FONT]

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[joaniemarie]

The only thing you guys can come up with is personal attacks and accusations. Petty satires and put downs., just silliness that amounts to childishness. Attack the person and not discuss the matter. That is very immature and we are called to better things than that. Are you spurred on by anger and pettiness or for the truth in the Bible? Do as you keep saying I'm not doing and read your Bible for yourselves and find the truths that are ours in Christ.

 

[Snoozy]

we were quoting bible u were quoting ur phony preachers LOL. what are u talking about?

 

[7seasrekeyed]

The only thing you guys can come up with is personal attacks and accusations. Petty satires and put downs., just silliness that amounts to childishness. Attack the person and not discuss the matter. That is very immature and we are called to better things than that. Are you spurred on by anger and pettiness or for the truth in the Bible? Do as you keep saying I'm not doing and read your Bible for yourselves and find the truths that are ours in Christ.

this classic response of yours is as old as last Thanksgiving's turkey

you have been offered many posts with scripture, including #43 right above but your constant hew and cry is that people are picking on you

you are actually the one that starts with the personal comments and you do every single time

you are hardly anyone to tell others to read their Bible. you really have managed a very dandy bait and switch post here but I don't think anyone believes it

why do you always reach for the disdain button when people refute what you know they will refute as it happens every single time you post this backwater sludge from JP?

stay on topic. discuss your own op without belittling those who rightfully disagree with Prince's teaching

can't you do that? defend from scripture what you say you believe as we offer scripture to refute what we say is false

is there any hope?

 

[joaniemarie]

I've said the same about you too 7seas and there are post after post of verses and explanations yet you ignore them. I know you enjoy a good fight but I'm not interested in sparring with you. I will post the verses with explanation. You can take them or leave them. That is entirely up to you.

Happy Thanksgiving!

 

[Snoozy]

I've said the same about you too 7seas and there are post after post of verses and explanations yet you ignore them. I know you enjoy a good fight but I'm not interested in sparring with you. I will post the verses with explanation. You can take them or leave them. That is entirely up to you.

thanks. im interested to see the verses.

 

[7seasrekeyed]

I've said the same about you too 7seas and there are post after post of verses and explanations yet you ignore them. I know you enjoy a good fight but I'm not interested in sparring with you. I will post the verses with explanation. You can take them or leave them. That is entirely up to you.

Happy Thanksgiving!

if I ignore what you post, verses included, then I guess this is my doppelganger, right?

get real

Prince twists what the word says and you post it and myself and quite a few others disagree

actually, it must be you who enjoys the fighting since you keep posting such inflammatory material

it's like you think it will have a different result

but, you know, maybe if you didn't take things personally, and kept to your own op and actually debated what you say you believe instead of just saying everyone but you is wrong, you would not have the impression folks are fighting

this is a debate forum...that's what people do here

maybe you should post in miscellaneous or some other place where folks will not think those false teachings should be take seriously

 

[Rosemaryx]

Hi Joannemarie...I was in a place yesterday where I was reaching out to others to direct me to someone who could show me people on youtube that would explain Genesis to me...You see I have only just started reading the OT, and in my own mind I wanted to learn more, but instead of being led by the Holy Spirit for me to continue, I reached out to people ...It was only someone posting to me thread today that made me realise what I was doing, I was going to man before God...I know you have love for the Lord, I see that eagerness in your post, but sometimes is your joy coming from what JP is revealing to you, or is it the true joy from our Lord...

I am going to continue in Exodus and rely on the Holy Spirit to lead me, should I get stuck I will ask in the forums, do you not think relying on these T.V preachers can be an addiction, I had to detox from Joyce Meyer, I like her but I was letting her teach me over the word of God...Sent to you with love...xox...

 

[joaniemarie]

thanks. im interested to see the verses.

Here are just a few about our standing being IN Christ and not in our performance.
[FONT=&quot]By his one offering he has perfected those that are sanctified (Heb 10:14). One with the Lord, you are just as holy and perfect as he is. That’s the gospel truth.
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[FONT=&quot]For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship. And by him we cry, “Abba, Father.” The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. (Rom 8:15-16)[/FONT]
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• He loves us first (1 John 4:19)
• He forgives us first (Col 2:13)
• He accepts us first (Rom 15:7)

 

[joaniemarie]

Hi Joannemarie...I was in a place yesterday where I was reaching out to others to direct me to someone who could show me people on youtube that would explain Genesis to me...You see I have only just started reading the OT, and in my own mind I wanted to learn more, but instead of being led by the Holy Spirit for me to continue, I reached out to people ...It was only someone posting to me thread today that made me realise what I was doing, I was going to man before God...I know you have love for the Lord, I see that eagerness in your post, but sometimes is your joy coming from what JP is revealing to you, or is it the true joy from our Lord...

I am going to continue in Exodus and rely on the Holy Spirit to lead me, should I get stuck I will ask in the forums, do you not think relying on these T.V preachers can be an addiction, I had to detox from Joyce Meyer, I like her but I was letting her teach me over the word of God...Sent to you with love...xox...

Hi Rosemary., Do you go to church regularly? As you know when we do., we are sitting under the preaching of preachers and teachers the Lord has given the church as gifts so we can learn. This is a good thing not a bad thing Rosemary.

I understand your desire to learn but trying to be alone and doing this is something the enemy wants of us. If he can keep us apart from the rest of the flock., he is like a wolf who will take advantage of the lone sheep. So I suggest you find a good Bible believing church and sit under the good preaching and teaching of other believers and also fellowship regularly with others in the body of Christ.., as well as study on your own.

If you can find good teachers on line like Joyce Meyer than go for it. Don't be an island unto yourself. Allow the Holy Spirit to direct you to good Christians who know the Word of God. I'm sorry you feel that way about JM. She has been a blessing in my life for many years.

 

[Rosemaryx]

Hi Rosemary., Do you go to church regularly? As you know when we do., we are sitting under the preaching of preachers and teachers the Lord has given the church as gifts so we can learn. This is a good thing not a bad thing Rosemary.

I understand your desire to learn but trying to be alone and doing this is something the enemy wants of us. If he can keep us apart from the rest of the flock., he is like a wolf who will take advantage of the lone sheep. So I suggest you find a good Bible believing church and sit under the good preaching and teaching of other believers and also fellowship regularly with others in the body of Christ.., as well as study on your own.

If you can find good teachers on line like Joyce Meyer than go for it. Don't be an island unto yourself. Allow the Holy Spirit to direct you to good Christians who know the Word of God. I'm sorry you feel that way about JM. She has been a blessing in my life for many years.

Hi joanie, I do have a pastor and his wife, and also I go to bible study Wednesday mornings and evenings, and a bible hour every Monday, so I am not alone ...I really like Joyce to be honest, she has taught me a lot from her testimony and I believe she loves our Lord very much, but I was looking forward more to opening my e-mails from her and watching her morning shows then I was opening my bible, so I closed down watching her and started in my bible more, I have nothing to judge her about, God knows her heart, she has taught me a lot as I said...But to me at the moment I believe the Holy Spirit wants me to be alone so I can become teachable by Him only, not saying I can not reach out to others who are more learned than me, but having oneness to me with God is so important, no distractions, no phone, no nothing, just God teaching me, Jesus often spent time alone with His Father, a great lesson to be learned from that, so yes sometimes it is good to become an island, especially when one is seeking the Lord, it`s the only way I can hear Him...xox...

 

[joaniemarie]

Hi joanie, I do have a pastor and his wife, and also I go to bible study Wednesday mornings and evenings, and a bible hour every Monday, so I am not alone ...I really like Joyce to be honest, she has taught me a lot from her testimony and I believe she loves our Lord very much, but I was looking forward more to opening my e-mails from her and watching her morning shows then I was opening my bible, so I closed down watching her and started in my bible more, I have nothing to judge her about, God knows her heart, she has taught me a lot as I said...But to me at the moment I believe the Holy Spirit wants me to be alone so I can become teachable by Him only, not saying I can not reach out to others who are more learned than me, but having oneness to me with God is so important, no distractions, no phone, no nothing, just God teaching me, Jesus often spent time alone with His Father, a great lesson to be learned from that, so yes sometimes it is good to become an island, especially when one is seeking the Lord, it`s the only way I can hear Him...xox...

So glad to hear that Rosemary! I'd say you are on the right path and to keep going. God Bless You.

 

[Rosemaryx]

So glad to hear that Rosemary! I'd say you are on the right path and to keep going. God Bless You.

Thank you joanie and you too...xox...

 

[joaniemarie]

Bible verses continued.....


The proof of God’s amazing love is this: that it was while we were sinners that Christ died for us. (Romans 5:8, Phillips)

We need to settle this in our heart. God loves ME. Period. Whether we're up or down., the one constant we can count on is our Father’s unwavering love for us.

1 Corinthians 13 gives one of the best descriptions of God’s love.

Love endures long and is patient and kind … it endures everything [without weakening]. Love never fails [never fades out or becomes obsolete or comes to an end]. (1 Corinthians 13:4,7–8, AMP)

The love of men is frail and weak but your Father’s love endures forever (Psalm 136).

The real question is not whether God will always love you but whether you know and enjoy His love.

Again., our standing is all wrapped up in Jesus.

 

[Issachar92]

If you can find good teachers on line like Joyce Meyer than go for it.

Yeah how about that 1 Timothy 2:12? Is that also old covenant? Aww its in Paul's epistles! How unfortunate, maybe its a forgery, maybe theres a better greek manuscript out there, maybe its not part of the canon. All of the above? Just gotta wait until them pundits find an older and more reliable manuscript from somewhere where that verse is removed.

 

[joaniemarie]

It's sad a young Christian man like you Issa92 can't post anything with substance and maturity. Another immature attempt to criticize those who go out preach the Gospel while you are sitting behind a computer in the safety of anonymity.

 

[Hizikyah]

Joanmarie, do you believe we have to obey the Messiah or is it optional?

 

[joaniemarie]

Yes., if we are not born again in Jesus Christ we can't expect to be treated as sons when we are outside the family of God. God has given the gift of Salvation in His Son for all who believe and receive Jesus Christ as Savior. Jesus said "ye must be born again"

Once a person is born again., we have the promises of God in Christ by faith. We walk the Christian life the same way we got saved.... by grace through faith.

Hizikyah ., do you believe this?