My shield doesn't work

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Magenta

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Its funny how men always blame their crappy actions on the allure of women. How about the guys just take responsibility for their own brains
It is Scriptural, and started with Adam:

The man said, "The woman you put here with me--she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it."

So it has been all our fault as far as men are concerned right from the beginning ;)

But then, Eve turned around and blamed the serpent. :p
 
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atwhatcost

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It's Lihle whisc means beautiful in Xhosa ( my home language ) this is the easiest to pronounce, my language has a lot of click sounds.
See? I'm not wrong about the comparison to an Asian lily. :D
 
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Galahad

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I've begged her to take me off <IGNORE>, but she just won't do it. LOL
"She" that's it. Once a woman decides you are to be ignored, well, it means you are to be ignored. But Willie, you aren't on my ignore list. I'm not female. If I ever put you on it. I'm sure I'll change my mind at a later time.

Hope that helps.
 
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Galahad

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"She" that's it. Once a woman decides you are to be ignored, well, it means you are to be ignored. But Willie, you aren't on my ignore list. I'm not female. If I ever put you on it. I'm sure I'll change my mind at a later time.

Hope that helps.
atwhatcost, You can prove me wrong by taking me off your ignore list! That would make your day. Please. atwhatcost will it be for me to be removed from your ignore list?
 
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I don't have Willie on ignore. LOL!!! I gave Willie and several others my private email address because we're friends. :D
I laughed so hard over that claim, that I couldn't resist posting what I did. LOL
 
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atwhatcost

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Please excuse my intrusion into this thread.

But I felt a nudge to bring something to attention:

View attachment 134140 (zoii's profile image)

This image is a stark resemblance from a television series called Dark Angel and while this might not be an actual image from television, my point remains the same: The World of television (or modern art) knows that sex sells. Here we have a dark image of a young woman with angelic wings. She is also wearing high-heels and is wearing very immodest clothing. This image can be described as dark and sexy.

One glance at your avatar looks like a young woman wearing a tanktop (which is defined as a close-fitting, sleeveless top).

One seemingly obvious and simple suggestion is that if you are receiving too much unwanted attention from the opposite sex -- reconsider how you're presenting yourself in public.

Forgive me if I have communicated this in an offensive manner (and please tell me how I can improve in the future).


Also, as for the conversation of this thread -- the only thing that I would like to add, Lihle, is that perhaps some/most of these men find your rejection of them to be attractive. Evil men want that (who) they cannot have. I hope that you are able to find some support here -- it looks like some of the ladies have already provided better support than I would know how to. Keeping focused on God is key.

Kind Regards,
PW
Improvement suggestions:

1. Don't insult someone for their choice in artwork/avatars.

2. Don't go all philosophical on a post when someone is asking for help because she's hurting. (Not all post are equal.)

3. Just because a man's mind goes there doesn't mean all men's minds go there nor do all women's minds go there. I was a big fan of Dark Angel. Same reason I'm a big fan of Buffy and Fringe. I love powerful women. I'm tired of women having to choice between being a sex object or strong. We can choose sexy and strong. We don't have to. We have other choices freely given to us. Granted, all those shows are too humanistic, but my frustration is in the church too. I'm really tired of the assumption all Christian women should be wearing frumpy outfits and keep their heads low just because men can't control themselves. And, if you think that's saying something about my choices? Some is. (I AM strong -- mentally, emotionally, and I could use more strength on the spiritually.) Some isn't. I AM frumpy! I am frumpy because it's comfortable and wearing unfrumpy causes more pain in my pain area, (right around my waist, so I really can't wear anything that is tight there, including traditional pants or skirts), not to make men decide things about me by my looks.

It does have that going for it though. If all someone is interested in is in my looks, then like Lihle, I've got my shield covering me for that one. No one takes a second notice of me. BUT if you see past looks? Then I have something to offer.

So, no, really not about what men see when they see a women. That was Lihle's problem to begin with. This is women offering solutions/advice/thoughts to what men see. We've already been trained well in the art of making the right man notice us.

4. Sometimes what hits the mind isn't the voice of God. (This is what hit my mind, but I strongly suspect it's not God's voice. lol)

Since you asked for ways to improve. (I'm not touching how Zoii is probably going to react to this one.
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atwhatcost

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so - u got to me profile...seriously why would u - ur twice my age....u know I keep like tons of modern art pics that I rotate through my profile pic...u pick one that's a well known digital art piece called sad angel.... n u wanna make some sort of sexual point about it n connect me to that sexual view....have I summed that up right?
Okay, so I'm surprised you took it that well. lol
 
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atwhatcost

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Is there a way to discuss perception and modesty without offending young women?
Privately? And, kind of without the assumption that an avatar is who the person is. Honest. I'm not a male teddy bear. I'm also not two of them.
 
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VioletReigns

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Remember, we're not supposed to judge one another according to the flesh. [2 Corinthians 5:16; John 8:15] Jesus said if we judge people by what we're looking at, that's judging by human standards, not God's standards. I'm sure Jesus didn't mention a word about clothing when throngs of people were following hard after Him looking for life and light. Ya know?

I think the worst offense on this site are those who are continually spewing out advice to others and they themselves never humble themselves nor accept correction.

It's always an awesome blessing when someone takes accountability for their error and apologizes publicly as a testimony of the grace of Jesus Christ. You will see the forum just light up with rejoicing every time someone is humble and reconciles with whomever they hurt.

You can tell God's people by their tenderness and love toward others... and by their love for God with a humble spirit.

"Love does not seek its own way."
 
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atwhatcost

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1.) Calm down and watch your language..

2.) Using your profile pic as an example, PW was saying that women sometimes dress in a way that attracts unwanted attention. He was making a statement, not about you personally, but about inappropriate dress in general. However, Lihle's problem is that she IS dressed modestly, and men STILL give her attention. I saw nothing offensive in PW's post.

3.) Profiles are public. And yes, even men can visit them. That's how we get to know more about people on here. So ANYONE who clicks on your profile can see your picture. PW didn't put it in the public eye, YOU did when you put it as your profile picture.. And angels don't dress in high heels and skimpy clothes.. THAT'S what PW meant when he said the world of tv, modern art, etc, knows that "sex sells." He wasn't referring to how YOU dress.
We all just went on another joyride on Lihle's post, didn't we?

Nuts! (Hard to stop doing that. This is me getting out of it again.
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PeacefulWarrior

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Privately? And, kind of without the assumption that an avatar is who the person is. Honest. I'm not a male teddy bear. I'm also not two of them.

Right, but if this thread's subject was teddy bears and you posted that you were struggling with too much attention from teddy bear fanatics (twice), then wouldn't it be reasonable to refer to your avatar as an example?!
 
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Privately? And, kind of without the assumption that an avatar is who the person is. Honest. I'm not a male teddy bear. I'm also not two of them.
Ya gots a point dere......... I'm not Amish.
 
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atwhatcost

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Yall...please dont come down too harshly on a youngin, we all know being young wasn't that easy, all this bickering aint helping, sometimes our response have to be soft...just sayin...:)
You is a young'n.

And according to Willie, I is a young'n.

And according to Dad, Willie is a young'n.

Amazing thing about being thought of as a young'n. It's all in the perspective. lol
 
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atwhatcost

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So back to the OP, I agree with sister kayla. I've noticed that when people stick to their answer ("no. I'm not interested.") The other party will eventually get tired and stop.
Or keep going until she changes her mind. (What can I say? It worked for me. And hubby's good friend kept going after this one woman so often, she was crying and all his friends were telling him to knock it off, yet they were married a year later. It happens sometimes like that.)
 
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kaylagrl

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Kayla, I think that is good advice for an American "style" culture... but not very good for Lihle's because some wicked men might be incited to hurt her BECAUSE she was following that sort of advice you are giving. I am more inclined to suggest she pray the lord protect her according to Psalm 94:4 and trust that he will "hide her" from these bad men as she goes about her business.

Yes I rather thought of that...she wasn't clear if these men were sexually harassing her,or merely flirting with her.Not sure what danger she is in.If she is in danger,like someone else posted she needs to find a male family member or Christian husband and wife,someone to help protect her from dangerous men.