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As everyone else said, it's the lyrics and the intention of the music that matters. :)

I was listening to christian music only for a few months, not purposely it just turned out that way, and it always gave me a deep sense of peace. When I switched back over to worldly music, wow, what a difference. You are so much more aware of the intention and lyrics of songs and you just can't find the same kind of satisfaction.
"I can't get no - satisfaction." Sorry, my bad. I enjoy Christian music as well.
 

nl

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If a person is already inclined to drink alcohol, party, etc., then the music they listen to may help reinforce their actions. But if you know precisely what you will and will not do, you'll be okay. If you know you don't want to start drinking or doing drugs, the music isn't going to change your mind.

All you need is a little self control. : )
Why let music or movies or television encourage you to do things that are contrary to the will of God?

Even if we maintain self-control and resist the temptation over and over again for a time, someone may still succumb later. Grievous things can happen quickly.

Encouragements to do well can help a person. Encouragement to do evil can hurt persons.

Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good. (Romans 12:9)


Prayer: Lead us not into temptation.​
 
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Why let music or movies or television encourage you to do things that are contrary to the will of God?

Even if we maintain self-control and resist the temptation over and over again for a time, someone may still succumb later. Grievous things can happen quickly.
If you're that impressionable, you should probably talk to a counselor.

Unless countrychick is already prone to the idea of sex or drugs, she'll be fine. Enjoying music with a theme that counters your own life style doesn't make you want to adopt those behaviors.

Breaking Bad is an absolutely amazing show. But guess what? I never once got the urge to shave my head. Granted, I did start cooking meth and having friends sell it for me - but that's just a coincidence. ; )

All joking aside (I don't actually cook meth), you greatly underestimate our capability of separating fantasy from reality.
 

nl

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If you're that impressionable...
...she'll be fine.
How do you know? Only God has the power to guarantee such things. Fear Him.

Enjoying music with a theme that counters your own life style doesn't make you want to adopt those behaviors.
Music, movies, television and companions have their influence.

Breaking Bad is an absolutely amazing show. But guess what? I never once got the urge to shave my head. Granted, I did start cooking meth and having friends sell it for me - but that's just a coincidence. ; )

All joking aside (I don't actually cook meth), you greatly underestimate our capability of separating fantasy from reality.
Some people are not to be believed. Please stay credible.

Jesus: Have faith in God. (Mark 11:22)​

Humanity has greatly underestimated the gravity of sin.

One leak will sink a ship; and one sin will destroy a sinner.- John Bunyan (1628-1688)

It is impossible to embrace, or allow one sin, and be free of others. For, First, He that yields to one sin, casts contempt upon the authority that made the whole law, and upon this account breaks it all: ‘Whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all,’ James 2:10. - William Gurnall (1617-1679)​

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ForthAngel

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If you're that impressionable, you should probably talk to a counselor.

Unless countrychick is already prone to the idea of sex or drugs, she'll be fine. Enjoying music with a theme that counters your own life style doesn't make you want to adopt those behaviors.

Breaking Bad is an absolutely amazing show. But guess what? I never once got the urge to shave my head. Granted, I did start cooking meth and having friends sell it for me - but that's just a coincidence. ; )

All joking aside (I don't actually cook meth), you greatly underestimate our capability of separating fantasy from reality.
[h=3]James 4:4[/h]New International Version (NIV)

[SUP]4 [/SUP]You adulterous people,[SUP][a][/SUP] don’t you know that friendship with the world means enmity against God? Therefore, anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.
 
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In response to the hip hop/rap topic.. I personally am not a huge fan of it unless it has positive or Christian lyrics. The only one I have bought is music by "Propaganda"... I like that guy. I think he's good
 
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Everything is spiritual, don't let anyone deceive you. Even when a person speaks, there is a spiritual voice in it and it will either convey godliness or affect your own spirit in a negative way. The bible says that if your eye or your own arm causes you to sin, you should cast it out because it is better to enter heaven maimed than enter whole into hell.

Don't let anyone make you feel bad because you have recognized that wordly music can affect your spirit in a negative way and make you tempted to sin. The bible says that the righteous man sees evil and hides out to shun it. This is not a competition about who can endure the most wordly music and not sin, it is not a competition about who is the strongest christian, this is about saving yourself from the fires of hell and staying within safe spiritual boundaries.

Let every man work at his own salvation with fear and trembling, because those who might encourage you today to continue listening to things that can harm you, will not stand in your defense on judgment day.

Do what's best for your own walk with the Lord and keep crying to HIM for your total sanctification and deliverance.

Don't look to the left or to the right, FLEE whatever God has shown you is harmful to you, and beware of wolves in disguise that might provoke you into arguments about whether is it weak of you or pathetic of you to fear wordly music or not. They are besides the point , the point is your spiritual deliverance, restoration, and your sanctification out of the world and fully into the Kingdom, that God may use you as a clean vessel for his purpose and his glory.

COME OUT FROM AMONG THEM AND BE YE SEPARATE, BE HOLY EVEN AS GOD IS HOLY.

Look to Jesus sister, and run, never looking back!!!!!! God bless
 
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countrychick

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Thank you all. And i am not planning to have sex until im married and doing drugs hasnt evenncrossed my mind i cant say as much as drinking but i never have. And thank you minouche, i will sister i. I will remember what you have said thank you.
 
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How do you know? Only God has the power to guarantee such things. Fear Him.
Waffles. Don't eat them or they might cause you to murder people! Don't tell me they don't because you can't guarantee such things, only God can.

Some people are not to be believed. Please stay credible.

Jesus: Have faith in God. (Mark 11:22)
I can quote scripture too!

You can listen to music and open your eyes to the world without succumbing to wrong doings as long as you keep your priorities in check.

Jesus: Have faith in God. (Mark 11:22)

Humanity has greatly underestimated the gravity of sin.

One leak will sink a ship; and one sin will destroy a sinner.- John Bunyan (1628-1688)


Luckily, this quote isn't proof CountryChick is going to start sinning just because she listens to music.

It is impossible to embrace, or allow one sin, and be free of others. For, First, He that yields to one sin, casts contempt upon the authority that made the whole law, and upon this account breaks it all: ‘Whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all,’ James 2:10. - William Gurnall (1617-1679)


This quote is hilarious because it's so obvious it's wrong! Most people who allow themselves to sin in one way do not allow themselves to sin in every way. Most people who get drunk aren't going around committing murders. Many people who avoid drugs cheat on their spouses. Sure, there are a lot of sins everyone tends to do, but they are things people are naturally inclined to do - such as telling small lies, wanting things, cussing, etc.

Sometimes, I like to listen to music about drinking. I don't drink. Sometimes I play video games like Grand Theft Auto, but I don't even consider stealing cars, killing people, dealing drugs, etc.

Sometimes, I like to read books about schemes and murder. Anyone a fan of Dracula?

Look to Jesus sister, and run, never looking back!!!!!! God bless


Essentially, you're being told you should be afraid of the world and you should remain ignorant to reality because you might accidentally be tempted to do something bad.

You need to develop your priorities and learn how to hold onto them. Know yourself and be the person you want to become. If you do this, I highly doubt listening to music is going to change your views about God.

Anyway, I need to get going. I just got done watching Pinky and the Brain, and it's about time for me to take over the world! Take care!
 

nl

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NL said:
It is impossible to embrace, or allow one sin, and be free of others. For, First, He that yields to one sin, casts contempt upon the authority that made the whole law, and upon this account breaks it all: ‘Whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all,’ James 2:10. - William Gurnall (1617-1679)


...This quote is hilarious because it's so obvious it's wrong! Most people who allow themselves to sin in one way do not allow themselves to sin in every way....
If God created the universe (and He did), then He possesses ownership rights over His creation and over us, creatures in God's creation. God possesses rights to be law-maker and judge in His creation.

He that approves one sin against the law makes himself or herself to be a higher authority than God, the law-maker. By approving one sin, the transgressor casts contempt upon the Authority that made the whole law, and upon this account breaks it all.

It is not reported that the Saul aka Paul threw any stones at Stephen as he was being put to death as a martyr. Yet, Paul consented to the actions of the stone throwers and held their coats and thus participated in the murder of Stephen. (Acts 7:58; Acts 22:20).
 
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is not reported that the Saul aka Paul threw any stones at Stephen as he was being put to death as a martyr. Yet, Paul consented to the actions of the stone throwers and held their coats and thus participated in the murder of Stephen. (Acts 7:58; Acts 22:20).
He was holding the coats of those who threw stones. He was related directly to the incident. But this isn't always the scenario.

I enjoy violent video games. Does that mean I'm participating in the death of others? No, it doesn't. Does it mean I'm going to start killing other people? Again, no, it doesn't.

You're out of touch with reality, that is, the fact that one can listen to music without adopting the music's themes into their actions.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Oh, so that explains why I always find myself traveling the seas in a Yellow Submarine!

Listening to music about sex isn't going to encourage you to have sex unless you're already open to that idea. So many songs I listen to mention alcohol and drugs, neither of which I do.
^ Says the spiritually blind atheist. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that listening to songs designed to increase libido actually do increase libido.
 
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Violent Music Lyrics Increase Aggressive Thoughts and Feelings, According to New Study

"Songs with violent lyrics increase aggression related thoughts and emotions and this effect is directly related to the violence in the lyrics, according to a new study published by the American Psychological Association (APA). The findings, appearing in the May issue of the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, contradicts popular notions of positive catharsis or venting effects of listening to angry, violent music on violent thoughts and feelings."

The Influence of Media Violence on Youth

"Research on violent television and films, video games, and music reveals unequivocal evidence that media violence increases the likelihood of aggressive and violent behavior in both immediate and long-term contexts. The effects appear larger for milder than for more severe forms of aggression, but the effects on severe forms of violence are also substantial (r = .13 to .32) when compared with effects of other violence risk factors or medical effects deemed important by the medical community (e.g., effect of aspirin on heart attacks). The research base is large; diverse in methods, samples, and media genres; and consistent in overall findings. The evidence is clearest within the most extensively researched domain, television and film violence. The growing body of video-game research yields essentially the same conclusions.

http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/dev/48/4/1044/

"This study examined sustained violent video game play and adolescent aggressive behavior across the high school years and directly assessed the socialization (violent video game play predicts aggression over time) versus selection hypotheses (aggression predicts violent video game play over time). Adolescents (N = 1,492, 50.8% female) were surveyed annually from Grade 9 to Grade 12 about their video game play and aggressive behaviors. Nonviolent video game play, frequency of overall video game play, and a comprehensive set of potential 3rd variables were included as covariates in each analysis. Sustained violent video game play was significantly related to steeper increases in adolescents' trajectory of aggressive behavior over time. Moreover, greater violent video game play predicted higher levels of aggression over time, after controlling for previous levels of aggression, supporting the socialization hypothesis. In contrast, no support was found for the selection hypothesis. Nonviolent video game play also did not predict higher levels of aggressive behavior over time."


He was holding the coats of those who threw stones. He was related directly to the incident. But this isn't always the scenario.

I enjoy violent video games. Does that mean I'm participating in the death of others? No, it doesn't. Does it mean I'm going to start killing other people? Again, no, it doesn't.

You're out of touch with reality, that is, the fact that one can listen to music without adopting the music's themes into their actions.
 
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what a weak person to sin based on a katy perry song.
Yeah.......IIIIIIII can handle it, therefore I will. I can handle a snake....... does that mean I should go out & grab one?
 
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Oh, so that explains why I always find myself traveling the seas in a Yellow Submarine!

Listening to music about sex isn't going to encourage you to have sex unless you're already open to that idea. So many songs I listen to mention alcohol and drugs, neither of which I do.
That may be true for you....... but when others watch you listen to it, do they know that?

Romans 14:16 (KJV) [SUP]16 [/SUP]Let not then your good be evil spoken of:

Romans 14:21 (KJV) [SUP]21 [/SUP]It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.
 
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Don't let people fool you. The CCM they listen to is more worldly in my opinion than much of the rock/hip-hop. Sound has nothing to do with it. I's the message and lyrics of the song that give it life. Much of the CCM is full of ambiguous lyrics that may or may not have anything to do with God. Much of it is made as a way to make money and nothing else. Same goes for the rock and hip hop. Examine everything to make sure it stands in the light of scripture.
That's right..... don't listen to CCM 'cuz there's hypocrites on there. You need to listen to secular music, 'cuz they're honest about their trash.:rolleyes:

You do realize I'd never be able to go into a single church with that attitude, don't you?

You do realize that most secular artists could care less about their fans..... such hypocracy. They can be hypocritical about being a hypocrite & that's still alright wit' you.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Rofl! I don't think you're going to make his Christmas list this year with comments like this... lolol. Here's how Nautilus views me:



But it's OK though because here's how I view Nautilus:



LOLOL!

Here we are together:




I laughed writing this post.


Yeah.......IIIIIIII can handle it, therefore I will. I can handle a snake....... does that mean I should go out & grab one?
 

ForthAngel

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That's right..... don't listen to CCM 'cuz there's hypocrites on there. You need to listen to secular music, 'cuz they're honest about their trash.:rolleyes:

You do realize I'd never be able to go into a single church with that attitude, don't you?

You do realize that most secular artists could care less about their fans..... such hypocracy. They can be hypocritical about being a hypocrite & that's still alright wit' you.
I never said listen to secular or not to listen to CCM. Read it again :) I was saying examine all the lyrics in the Christian hip hop/rock etc. Same goes for CCM which can be very deceptive on a subtle level. I don't listen to secular music. Sound does not qualify it as far as worldly/Christian. The lyrics are the life of it. Again, I do not promote secular music, even harmless sounding secular music. I gave all but a very tiny percentage of it up.
 
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I never said listen to secular or not to listen to CCM. Read it again :) I was saying examine all the lyrics in the Christian hip hop/rock etc. Same goes for CCM which can be very deceptive on a subtle level. I don't listen to secular music. Sound does not qualify it as far as worldly/Christian. The lyrics are the life of it. Again, I do not promote secular music, even harmless sounding secular music. I gave all but a very tiny percentage of it up.

1 Corinthians 5:6 (KJV) [SUP]6 [/SUP]Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?