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RickyZ

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I didn't know proper grammar and spelling were items of opinion. Tell me, is 2+2=4 just an opinion now too?

The point I'm trying to make, and I apologize for doing it at your expense, is that there is a mindset in this country that says close enough is all I need... and it's that mindset that has us quickly becoming a third world country. Why do you think the Bible has us as a non-player in the end? Because 'close enough' is going to be the death of us.

I'm not afraid of Kenneth. Bring 'em on ;)!
 

Oncefallen

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Most personal attacks here are uncalled for. But you've been lovingly corrected time and again and you have made a conscious decision to continue in error. It's the embodiment of the "don't confuse me with the facts my mind is made up" mentality that is sinking this country. Sorry dude, but YOU DO know the difference and YOU DO choose to continue in error. Wrong in a little, wrong in a lot. And I'm just using you as an example of the larger group of people who put leaders like the Bushes and the Obamas and the Clintons and the Bernies into power. Sorry buddy, I love ya dearly, but when people choose error over what they know is right, it makes them completely unreliable as a source of information.

This isn't a put down. It's a call to higher honor that you refuse to accept.

I would have thought that most persons would have take this thread for the tongue in cheek that it is.

Mitspa (unless I'm very sadly mistaken) is rooting for Bernie because unlike his competitor (or predecessor) he isn't trying to hide his socialist/communist agenda. That being said, (at least according to the latest polls that I've seen) if Bernie wins the Democratic nomination either Republican front runner takes the general election whereas if Hillary gets the nomination (shy of an indictment) it will be a close race to the end.
 
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kaylagrl

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Bernie's a social democrat. His idea of socialism is health care as a right for all citizens, free college tuition, a 15 dollar minimum wage, exc. We are militarily allied through NATO with many nations that have programs just like those....Canada, the UK, Denmark, Belgium, France, and Germany to name a few. We are obligated by Article 5 of the NATO Charter to go to war with any country that attacks any of the countries I just listed, because an attack on one is an attack on all. If adding socialist aspects to a capitalist economy was so evil, then why are we allied with countries that compared to the United States could be considered "socialist"? There is not a single country in the entire world that employs complete laissez-faire economics or "pure capitalism". All countries have some socialist aspects to them, thats why (excluding the few remaining communist nations) they are called Mixed Economies. Bernie just wants the government to handle things that shouldn't be "for profit", such as health care and education. Bernie Sanders is this countries greatest hope for a president who isn't just another puppet for corporate interests since FDR. FEEL THE BERN!!!!

Annnndd all this is paid for how? Try 15% tax,or higher,it's what we paid in the province I was from. No such thing as "free".He's a liar if he fails to tell the people their taxes are about to go through the roof.
 
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Mitspa

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I didn't know proper grammar and spelling were items of opinion. Tell me, is 2+2=4 just an opinion now too?

The point I'm trying to make, and I apologize for doing it at your expense, is that there is a mindset in this country that says close enough is all I need... and it's that mindset that has us quickly becoming a third world country. Why do you think the Bible has us as a non-player in the end? Because 'close enough' is going to be the death of us.

I'm not afraid of Kenneth. Bring 'em on ;)!
This is not a proper grammar thread....its a pro-Bernie thread ...and why he should be the Democratic nominee :)
 

RickyZ

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As a matter of economics socialism cannot work. The government cannot be ceded all the power of the economy of the country. Education is the biggest farce in the country. It is government indoctrination into big and bigger government with no accountability. Look at how may people are educated idiots today. People with college degrees that cannot think or act independently. No technical skills but know all the social ills of capitalism. We are seeing the results of the left leaning socialists teaching in our colleges and universities.

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Exactly. When you become indoctrinated into believing that things like your/you're, they're/there/their, and the like no longer matter, then it's just a snowball's roll downhill to believing that our current batch of leaders - Dems and Reps alike - have our best interests at heart.
 

RickyZ

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This is not a proper grammar thread....its a pro-Bernie thread ...and why he should be the Democratic nominee :)
But they ARE related. Are you familiar with the butterfly effect? (And no I'm not talking about the movie).
 
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Mitspa

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Exactly. When you become indoctrinated into believing that things like your/you're, they're/there/their, and the like no longer matter, then it's just a snowball's roll downhill to believing that our current batch of leaders - Dems and Reps alike - have our best interests at heart.
Good cause Bernie has been the ONLY independent in the congress for years now ... and Bloomberg will get in as well if Bernie wins ...
 
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Mitspa

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But they ARE related. Are you familiar with the butterfly effect? (And no I'm not talking about the movie).
I don't see a relation...all I see is you trying to derail a very important thread :(
 
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That was a fun read!

Now I will wait for Ken to come back and exhort and esteem all you apes he rebuked and reproved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!;)

Reproving and rebuking is stating things that does not align with God's Word, and then the Word of God shows that reproving and rebuking is always to be followed up with exhortation and esteeming of the person !!!
 

RickyZ

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I'm sorry, is Bernie running as a Democrat or an independent?
 
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I'm sorry, is Bernie running as a Democrat or an independent?
He's running with the Democrats but by party he is Independent. Perhaps a last trump card to preventing the communist takeover is to finagle the DNC into disqualifying him. Sometimes the two party system can work to our benefit after all, but I think they're still hoping Hillary can beat him in the more traditional manner.

Le sigh this is why democrazy is such a failure, allows for communists to take over.


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RickyZ

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Yes, Jeff Goldblum explained it very nicely ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-mpifTiPV4

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Interesting clip but Jeff is wrong. The butterfly effect goes like this: A butterfly in Asia flaps it's wings and stirs some pollen from a flower into the air. The pollen is then sucked into the nose of a caribou. The caribou sneezes. The sneeze startles the herd and sends them into a stampede. The stampede kicks up a cloud of dust. The dust gets carried on the wind out over the ocean. The ocean moisture condenses on the dust cloud and forms a storm. The storm wipes out the west coast of the US.

In this application, long version short, the people are taught that little things don't matter. Believing that little things don't matter, the people become ignorant. In their ignorance they elect the very 'leaders' that lead us to ruin.
 
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kaylagrl

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Interesting clip but Jeff is wrong. The butterfly effect goes like this: A butterfly in Asia flaps it's wings and stirs some pollen from a flower into the air. The pollen is then sucked into the nose of a caribou. The caribou sneezes. The sneeze startles the herd and sends them into a stampede. The stampede kicks up a cloud of dust. The dust gets carried on the wind out over the ocean. The ocean moisture condenses on the dust cloud and forms a storm. The storm wipes out the west coast of the US.

In this application, long version short, the people are taught that little things don't matter. Believing that little things don't matter, the people become ignorant. In their ignorance they elect the very 'leaders' that lead us to ruin.

If Jeff is wrong I dont wanna be right...:p
 
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Mitspa

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Interesting clip but Jeff is wrong. The butterfly effect goes like this: A butterfly in Asia flaps it's wings and stirs some pollen from a flower into the air. The pollen is then sucked into the nose of a caribou. The caribou sneezes. The sneeze startles the herd and sends them into a stampede. The stampede kicks up a cloud of dust. The dust gets carried on the wind out over the ocean. The ocean moisture condenses on the dust cloud and forms a storm. The storm wipes out the west coast of the US.

In this application, long version short, the people are taught that little things don't matter. Believing that little things don't matter, the people become ignorant. In their ignorance they elect the very 'leaders' that lead us to ruin.
Look man...you can think a butterfly is causing global warming or whatever if you want .... This thread is about Bernie Sanders and he is pro-butterfly already :)
 
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No one is suggesting that the government be ceded all the power over the economy of the country...I'm not and Bernie Sanders isn't either. That would be communism. There are only 5 countries in the entire world where there is no private sector and the government is in control of the entire economy. Every other country on the planet is a Mixed Economy, where there is a balance between markets and government economic planning, and public and private ownership. As far as education goes, a big reason why our education system is so bad is because its all about testing. Schools get funding based on, and teachers job security relies on, how well students do on tests. As students, we are required to remember information, and then be tested on it, but do we every REALLY learn it? One of the most highly rated education systems in the whole world is in Finland. Education in Finland is publicly funded from pre-school all the way through college. Our higher education system has turned into a for-profit racket that no longer seeks to educate future leaders to better our country but instead finds anyway possible to make a buck. Its time for us to take our country back from the corporations and special interests that control our elections and policymaking.

 
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Gr8grace

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really what is going on is we don't have a pivot in this country anymore. We do but it is dwindling.

God protects his people who are advancing and growing in His knowledge. If we would stop with the "christian causes" and all of our fixes and just advance or mature in Christ, raise our families doctrinally, do our jobs doctrinally,love our spouses doctrinally,live doctrinally..................God puts His hedge around a nation. He takes care of the periphery if he has positive believers living in a free nation.

We have a small pivot of positive believers in this country any more........it is why we are seeing the decline.


If there are fifty righteous will you spare it?


26So the LORD said, “If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare the whole place on their account.” 27And Abraham replied, “Now behold, I have ventured to speak to the Lord, although I am but dust and ashes. 28“Suppose the fifty righteous are lacking five, will You destroy the whole city because of five?” And He said, “I will not destroy it if I find forty-five there.”29He spoke to Him yet again and said, “Suppose forty are found there?” And He said, “I will not do it on account of the forty.” 30Then he said, “Oh may the Lord not be angry, and I shall speak; suppose thirty are found there?” And He said, “I will not do it if I find thirty there.” 31And he said, “Now behold, I have ventured to speak to the Lord; suppose twenty are found there?” And He said, “I will not destroy it on account of the twenty.” 32Then he said, “Oh may the Lord not be angry, and I shall speak only this once; suppose ten are found there?” And He said, “I will not destroy it on account of the ten.” 33
 

Oncefallen

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Annnndd all this is paid for how? Try 15% tax,or higher,it's what we paid in the province I was from. No such thing as "free".He's a liar if he fails to tell the people their taxes are about to go through the roof.
Of course its all free. Bernie has promised to pay for every program of his by increasing corporate taxes, just look at his site. Once he chases businesses out of America (or bankrupts them), since we already have the highest corporate tax rate in the world, alot of us won't have an income to raise taxes on.

I'm highly confident that if Bernie gains the Oval Office and is able to railroad through half of his programs my employer who is at retirement age would just close his doors rather than watch the wealth that he has spent a lifetime building vanish into the government coffers.