'Pedophilia is OK,' says Priest

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I did not say you did just stating that I do not put worldly understanding above and before God and the working power of His Holy Spirit !!!



To Willie-T I don't disagree with what you said in post #34, just didn't go into detail.
I seen one guy in prison who was there for forgery but they had him classified as a re-offending sex offender because of a sex offense he did in 98. Sad they state re-offender for a different offense.

Windows 10 will not let me post to long post some times without getting booted !!!
Have you increased your "virtual memory?" You can increase it by 1.5 x the RAM memory in your computer.
 
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Have you increased your "virtual memory?" You can increase it by 1.5 x the RAM memory in your computer.
No I have not done that !!!

This is a fairly new computer with very little saved on it, and it worked fine tell upgrading to windows 10.
 

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You want a real "eye-opener?" Go find yourself the % of Sex Offenders (Yes, even Child Molesters) that are Pedophiles. I could hardly believe how low it was, and I worked with Sex Offenders for decades.

In just shy of 25 years, officially, and probably 15, casually, I doubt I ran across more than 6 Pedophiles.
Not really. That particular technicality, aside, thousands of children are still suffering sexual abuse... even if ther attackers are not specifically attracted to children.
To clarify what Willie is saying here. By far the majority of persons who have committed sex crimes against children do not meet the criteria to classify as a Pedophile (someone who's primary sexual attraction is towards children). Most of these persons are ordered to complete a rigorous sex offender treatment program (either in prison or while on probation) and go on with their lives without ever offending again.

Typically when newscasts are giving recidivism statistics on S/O's they are cherry picking for pedophiles specifically because their re-offense rates are so high in comparison to the rest of S/O's
 
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To clarify what Willie is saying here. By far the majority of persons who have committed sex crimes against children do not meet the criteria to classify as a Pedophile (someone who's primary sexual attraction is towards children). Most of these persons are ordered to complete a rigorous sex offender treatment program (either in prison or while on probation) and go on with their lives without ever offending again.

Typically when newscasts are giving recidivism statistics on S/O's they are cherry picking for pedophiles specifically because their re-offense rates are so high in comparison to the rest of S/O's

I would add to this that in a lot of places they are making them take the program in and out of prison both, meaning I have seen them have to take it in prison then released on parole they have to take the courses again on the outside as well.

On top of these classes also they have to continue to register from 10 years to lifetime depending on the type of offense and state. Others have to wear a monitoring device (ankle bracelet) also for a determining amount of time depending on type of offense and state as well.
 
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I would add to this that in a lot of places they are making them take the program in and out of prison both, meaning I have seen them have to take it in prison then released on parole they have to take the courses again on the outside as well.

On top of these classes also they have to continue to register from 10 years to lifetime depending on the type of offense and state. Others have to wear a monitoring device (ankle bracelet) also for a determining amount of time depending on type of offense and state as well.
I found it interesting that many of our "clients" have actually asked to be allowed to wear a monitor. Unfortunately, most of them are denied due to budgetary constraints.
 
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I found it interesting that many of our "clients" have actually asked to be allowed to wear a monitor. Unfortunately, most of them are denied due to budgetary constraints.
Same here to as they want the accountability to make sure they don't slip up and re-offend.

I have talked to a number who say they would accept wearing them because of the fear they live in now in life do to treatment from society.
 
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Same here to as they want the accountability to make sure they don't slip up and re-offend.

I have talked to a number who say they would accept wearing them because of the fear they live in now in life do to treatment from society.
If ONLY we "good citizens" could finally learn how detrimental our constant escalation of ever more oppressive laws is to the very goal we "think" we are accomplishing.
 
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Did this guy just blame the children because they need affection?
 
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If ONLY we "good citizens" could finally learn how detrimental our constant escalation of ever more oppressive laws is to the very goal we "think" we are accomplishing.
Well this is how our society unfortunately works, instead of actually helping people they put more restrictions on others.

Sound familiar.........................Can we say Pharisees !!!

Then the rest of society they force feed false statistic's and use scare tactic's to get them to fall in line with what they want done. Before long it won't be just criminals in prison but we will find Christian's put in prison camps to, as I am still doing research on what all these so-called residential centers popping up all over are for that look like prisons.

Off topic but I came across a couple stories just the other day about how 100's of homeless have been disappearing around the U.S.
 
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Did this guy just blame the children because they need affection?
I think he may have directed some blame to the parent's for not recognizing that need. But, of course, any blanket statement can be totally out of line.
 

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If ONLY we "good citizens" could finally learn how detrimental our constant escalation of ever more oppressive laws is to the very goal we "think" we are accomplishing.

S/O registries that are available to the general public via the internet do nothing but create hysteria within the neighborhoods where these men live. What most people don't realize is that the few men who do re-offend do so more than two miles from where they live.

Residency restrictions that some states have are ineffective for the same reason. In reality residency restrictions make it more likely that men will fail to register an accurate address (or stop registering altogether) because it makes it almost impossible for them to find a place to live.

Lengthy registration periods (lifetime for many) do nothing but ostracize a man for life and remove his hope for a brighter future and are pointless because by far the majority of re-offenses take place within the first five years.
 
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S/O registries that are available to the general public via the internet do nothing but create hysteria within the neighborhoods where these men live. What most people don't realize is that the few men who do re-offend do so more than two miles from where they live.

Residency restrictions that some states have are ineffective for the same reason. In reality residency restrictions make it more likely that men will fail to register an accurate address (or stop registering altogether) because it makes it almost impossible for them to find a place to live.

Lengthy registration periods (lifetime for many) do nothing but ostracize a man for life and remove his hope for a brighter future and are pointless because by far the majority of re-offenses take place within the first five years.
Perfectly astute and accurate assessments.
 
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Not really. That particular technicality, aside, thousands of children are still suffering sexual abuse... even if ther attackers are not specifically attracted to children.
Regardless of their attraction or lack thereof, if they harm children, they need to meet God, right quick.
 
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I think he may have directed some blame to the parent's for not recognizing that need. But, of course, any blanket statement can be totally out of line.
So a kid that doesn't get his affection from home leaves him for blame when a Priest refuses to keep his hands to himself? I don't even...
 
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Regardless of their attraction or lack thereof, if they harm children, they need to meet God, right quick.
This is one area we definitely don't agree on because we are not called to be judge and executioner of others for the sins they have done. The bible even clearly warns on making such judgments on another as it says we will face the same judgment we put on others !!!
 
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Regardless of their attraction or lack thereof, if they harm children, they need to meet God, right quick.
Well, see..... there's the problem... and the reason I had such a tough task for years, and many still do. People talk big, but they do nothing. It is the laws "good citizens" vote for that allow them back on the street, where people like me and certain law enforcement are stuck with trying to do the real, effectual protection of our children.... And we have been doing it under circumstances the "good public" has made almost impossible to work in.
 

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Masters in Behavioral Psychology, University of Missouri '97 (BA, '92), currently working on Ph.D in Behavioral Psychology at MU, Addictions and Family Therapist certifications, MA, BA, LAC, LMFT, seventeen years in practice, Masters thesis on PTSD, Cocurrent Events of Domestic Violence as Influenced by Drug, Alcohol, and Pathological (now "disordered," in DSM-5) Gambling, published in American Addictions Journal, 6(4) p. 247-256. Over 20 years in addictions counseling (thanks to Missouri's former practice of not requiring a degree for an addictions certification), including work with felons still incarcerated, veterans, homeless vets, and the homeless in general at the Salvation Army, VA, and as a referral professional for Wounded Warriors Project.

Good enough?
Excellent credentials. Willie I think he's got us here, that's an impressive display of diplomas he has on the wall. Honestly, my hat's off to you Vigilant as you have obviously put a lot of time and effort into this area. Yeah that's good enough ! :)

This reminds me of a woman who was here some time back, went by the handle Zone. Incredibly intelligent, incredibly studied. I sat in on her 'lectures' often, I rarely agreed with her conclusions, but that didn't mean she didn't teach some truths along the way. Incredibly intelligent, incredibly studied.

And incredibly life-inexperienced. The lack of her experience in so many things led her to conclude they didn't exist. And of course her belief that they did not exist hindered her ever experiencing them. I tried everything I could to break her of that cycle, but alas she held her position like a marine holds a hill. She'd rather die fighting than be open to anything different.

I'm not saying that's what's happening here, and I don't have a bunch of diplomas on my wall, but I've seen what Willie's seen and yes while it's not a big number it does happen. I just hope that the diplomas on your wall don't block the view out your window. They can, some times, you know.

God bless you for the work you have done. Yes it is very much good enough and I pray Lord that it continues for a long time!
 
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Don't be obtuse. Go read what I said.
I'm on 4 hours sleep, I just don't see how he could be saying anything else with that statement.
 
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I'm on 4 hours sleep, I just don't see how he could be saying anything else with that statement.
When in the course of human events it becomes necessary for us to accept some simple, basic facts.... then we have to accept them.

1.) Children need attention.
2.) Parents sometimes neglect that need.
3.) In this fallen world, perverts do exist.
4.) The two, children and perverts, will find each other.
5.) Despite it not being ideal, children will gravitate toward an adult showing them the affection they crave.

Yes, I do think a certain degree of responsibility falls back on the parents. There is just no way to avoid that.
 
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