Trump’s populist destruction of conservatism in America

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Viligant_Warrior

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maxwel said:
The last time I was on a college campus (quite recently),
all the little boys and girls seemed quite preoccupied with how to best cure hangovers and hide cheap beer in the drop-ceiling.

I had no idea they had any energy left over for politics.
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Only that which can be boiled down to the simplistic ...

Conservative = racist
Christian = racist
NRA member = racist
Christian woman = ignorant and racist
Moderate = prejudiced, bordering on racist
Liberal, socialist, feminist, minority activist, political correctness guru = next to the second coming

Easy, when you understand them.
 
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GodIsSalvation

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RachelBibleStudent said:
um have you visited a college campus lately?
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Last year, not this year. I took a politics class, and the only woman interested was the teacher. Not a bad teacher, but very very liberal. I am not liberal, nor am I conservative as I have said. I have managed to break out of that paradigm and into the politics of kings, which is to say for America, the most base political view there is.

That's how I get your point on Trump, I agree with much of it. I especially find myself wanting a candidate with actual experience. However you must consider Sirk's point. For it matters not record and experience, or elsewise Kasich be winning handily followed by Bush. Yea as my apolitical friend, a base common man paraphrased of Alexander the Great in our Trump debate, the nomination goes "to the strongest".
 
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RachelBibleStudent said:
um have you visited a college campus lately?
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They don't allow him within 300 yards of a college campus... haha

But those girls are not trying to base their views on the real truth...its all liberal propaganda for the most part. That's not what im talking about ...
 
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GodIsSalvation said:
Last year, not this year. I took a politics class, and the only woman interested was the teacher. Not a bad teacher, but very very liberal. I am not liberal, nor am I conservative as I have said. I have managed to break out of that paradigm and into the politics of kings, which is to say for America, the most base political view there is.

That's how I get your point on Trump, I agree with much of it. I especially find myself wanting a candidate with actual experience. However you must consider Sirk's point. For it matters not record and experience, or elsewise Kasich be winning handily followed by Bush. Yea as my apolitical friend, a base common man paraphrased of Alexander the Great in our Trump debate, the nomination goes "to the strongest".
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I agree.

But I have just slightly higher expectations.

I'd like to find a politician with actual experience...
who has also gone 10 consecutive seconds without lying about something.

I'm still looking.
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Mitspa said:
They don't allow him within 300 yards of a college campus... haha

But those girls are not trying to base their views on the real truth...its all liberal propaganda for the most part. That's not what im talking about ...
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Lol actually believe it or not they tried pretty hard to get me to go back, even offering to pay for some of my classes since I got all high As. Funny enough I pretty much argued against and totally wrecked the premise of their classes (politics and psychology).

My term paper for politics was an analyses of WW3 and America's mishandling of it from 2010-2014. In psychology; about how modern psychology is a mythical lie being that psyche means soul and -ology a study of, and therefore all modern psychology is a lie and should be renamed mentalogy, meaning a study of the mind and brain.

Surprisingly both teachers seemed to like me and I enjoyed talking with them after their class. Especially the psychology teacher whom ironically is a Syrian immigrant and was quite keen on the subject for which I was talking about in the politics class lol! I think she's the one behind trying to tempt me to go back as she is also in charge of handling their scholarships and offered me one, and then even when I declined I got some letters offering the same in the mail.
 
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GodIsSalvation

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maxwel said:
I agree.

But I have just slightly higher expectations.

I'd like to find a politician with actual experience, who has also gone 10 consecutive seconds without lying about something.

I'm still looking.
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Lol you'll be looking forever then. That's a game of hide and seek that cannot be won.
 
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The following is, if you will, the natural rebut to Jonah Goldberg's piece cited by Vigilant Warrior.

An Open Letter To Jonah Goldberg – RE: The GOP and Donald Trump | The Last Refuge

Cliffnotes- There is then a certain irony on making Trump the deciding factor on whether or not one belongs in a movement when there are a good deal of Republicans, currently in high positions of governance, who openly fight conservatives and the advancement of conservative ideals. Are they not more worthy of criticism? Are those with open connections to them not worthy of the same sort of vetting process conservatives propose for Trump?

I will hold my own commentary in favor of what the author is saying, as he has an awful lot of good to say.

I temper my support of what he is saying in this article in the same way I temper my largely positive view of Trump's candidacy- when choosing someone to enact a conservative vision as President is it not important to vet their qualifications for both standing for said principles and enacting them(enacting includes getting elected)? If our goal is restoration of the Constitution as the law of the land, should we not choose a man who has a record of respecting and standing up for the spirit of the law? If we exchange a passive species of moderate for an active, volatile species, are we really better off?

These are important questions, but the conservative commentator class has yet to address them satisfactorily. Voters read the multitude of anti-Trump pieces as "My toys are broken, here is my tirade in response. The world hates me." Which is not far off. Furthermore, they see the call for "specifics" as a sham given the fact candidates are rarely held to such a scrutiny (though they should be). Also, few commentators have addressed the Trump, real or farcical, that voters meet at events.

Perhaps that is not he job of a commentator, but rather the duty of another candidate. Either way, when it comes to purity, they would be wise to consider the plank in eye of the GOP rather than the dust in Trump's. It could save the party and, more importantly, the nation.
 
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