Trump v Clinton who will win and why they will win

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Voldemort

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Trump is going to clean Hillary's clock in the general election.
I'm not sure if this makes me a hypocrite because I'm not a Trump supporter, but the carnal/sinful side of me is salivating at a Trump/Hillary debate. I hope for brothers and sisters in Christ to treat each other with love and respect, yet, I'll be making popcorn when/if they have a debate...
 
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if i've already got cancer, being given a choice between also having a heart attack or also having a stroke is not really going to 'save the day' for me, medically.

a Trump presidency is not going to make God decide to exempt America from judgement. it's not going to 'make us great' in His eyes. not any more than a Clinton presidency.
and all this about supreme court nominees -- even apart from spirituality, we're looking at a choice between two essentially liberal candidates, who both support abortion, gay rights, and corporate personhood. we're not voting on any of these 'hot-button' issues this time -- God has made it so that we can't use that excuse anymore. it's just clear now that we're voting for fear, for hate, and for secular partisanship.

so . . what? you think Trump is going to appoint John MacArthur to the SCOTUS just because Trump is on the red ticket? maybe. but i doubt it.

SCOTUS..... the first real law they will make (and do not kid yourself that it is not the SCOTUS that is starting to now make the laws) will be to remove any defense from your hands, our 2nd amendment. Once that is finally done, all resistance is futile because it cannot be mounted.

Trump has already given his list of appointees. You can look it up for yourself.
 
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I'm not sure if this makes me a hypocrite because I'm not a Trump supporter, but the carnal/sinful side of me is salivating at a Trump/Hillary debate. I hope for brothers and sisters in Christ to treat each other with love and respect, yet, I'll be making popcorn when/if they have a debate...
It will be entertaining. Possibly the last we will ever see if we do not get behind him.
 
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jennymae

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Uh........... You do understand, that simply by the numbers, without some Democrats and Independents voting Republican, there is no way in the world that Democrats will not be elected.

There are simply more Democrats than Republicans. Period. And as the USA continues to turn toward the worldly views and desires, the number grows.

About the only hope we have is that at this last, very crucial election, we work our butts off to get a Republican in the White House. And that president has to turn things around FAST. Why? So that, four years from now enough Independents and Democrats will actually see, with their own eyes, that America really can come back, and doesn't have to keep spiraling downward and downward as we have been doing for years.

This is SO important. We have got to get Democrats to see what they are doing to our country before it dies.
That makes sense, but hence folks didn't get this in the preliminaries, and ignorantly secured Trump the win, well, my prediction is that they won't be getting it come the next general either. So, to simplify it, it ain't gonna be easier, it'll get worse, and come 2024, there will pop up a new party, which will make the Democratic party come across conservative. This makes me, to put it bluntly, somewhat disappointed in the trumpsters...they have paved the way for an ultraliberal force.
 

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I'm not sure if this makes me a hypocrite because I'm not a Trump supporter, but the carnal/sinful side of me is salivating at a Trump/Hillary debate. I hope for brothers and sisters in Christ to treat each other with love and respect, yet, I'll be making popcorn when/if they have a debate...
There will be 3 debates for the presidential nominees and 1 for the VP nominees.
 
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Colt45Bullet

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I imagine most of you, if not all of you, have seen the movie Fireproof. There were 2 key themes to that movie. 1. Never leave your partner, so basically, don't give up hope on your county. 2. Fireproof doesn't mean fire wont come, it just means you will be able to withstand it when it does. Those two areas are where we as a county need to fix our issues. How do we do that? Stop with all the signs and everything that say, "Everyone Welcome" at the church. They really do not do any good. Get out in your community and fix your relationships with others. Unity is key to a successful nation.
 

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I don't understand Christians voting for Trump that use the "lesser of two evils" logic. Um.... That logic is saying you're still voting for evil. How does one explain that? It's no different than one rationalizing "a lesser of two sintas". Sin is sin. Evil is evil. And please don't use the " Trump didn't murder anyone" stuff. That "But Billy did THIS" argument is elementary at best.
 

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I don't understand Christians voting for Trump that use the "lesser of two evils" logic. Um.... That logic is saying you're still voting for evil. How does one explain that? It's no different than one rationalizing "a lesser of two sintas". Sin is sin. Evil is evil. And please don't use the " Trump didn't murder anyone" stuff. That "But Billy did THIS" argument is elementary at best.
I also don't know why auto correct changed the word "sins" to "sintas". But to answer the actual question, I honestly don't know who will win. I have very little faith in the people because, well, look at what has become of this country due to the people. I know what to get from Hillary. I don't know what to get from Trump. If he does win, then I pray he dies change this country. I also pray for Hillary, too.
 
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Yeraza_Bats

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I am actually pretty confident that Trump will win.

Im not saying this to show my support for him, btw. I just really feel that he is going to win.

I dont think he will be the hero we are all looking for, but I think hes gonna win.
 

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Do you want a country like what is being proposed by the democratic party for your children and grand children, or would you prefer one like the republican party is proposing? If you are having problems choosing the next candidate, take the names out of the equation, and vote for the direction that you want the country to take in the future. Remember this. The result of this election is going to fix the country's future for the foreseeable future. The vote that you are casting in November is the most important vote that you will ever make. Pray diligently and choose wisely.
 

RickyZ

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If we always have the mindset of voting for the lesser of two evils, in this case Trump or Hillary, and limiting our options for the highest position in the entire world, then we will never be compelled to change this faulty system and our faulty thinking.
Amen. Ya got a rep for that piece of clear thinking.

VOTING FOR THE LESSER EVIL IS STILL VOTING FOR EVIL.

The only wasted votes in this election are the ones cast for Trump or Hillary
 
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I don't understand Christians voting for Trump that use the "lesser of two evils" logic. Um.... That logic is saying you're still voting for evil. How does one explain that? It's no different than one rationalizing "a lesser of two sintas". Sin is sin. Evil is evil. And please don't use the " Trump didn't murder anyone" stuff. That "But Billy did THIS" argument is elementary at best.
Hillary is evil. Is Trump?
 
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I don't understand Christians voting for Trump that use the "lesser of two evils" logic. Um.... That logic is saying you're still voting for evil. How does one explain that? It's no different than one rationalizing "a lesser of two sintas". Sin is sin. Evil is evil. And please don't use the " Trump didn't murder anyone" stuff. That "But Billy did THIS" argument is elementary at best.
Until Jesus returns we will ALWAYS be voting for the lessor of two evils. I think this is a foregone conclusion and arguing about it is pointless.
 

jsr1221

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Hillary is evil. Is Trump?
I don't think he's evil in the sense Hillary is. But I hear that "lesser of two evils" stance a lot. Saying that basically means the candidate he/she is voting for is still evil, though, just "less evil" whenever trying to use that point.
 
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I don't think he's evil in the sense Hillary is. But I hear that "lesser of two evils" stance a lot. Saying that basically means the candidate he/she is voting for is still evil, though, just "less evil" whenever trying to use that point.
I know what you're saying; I see that phrase all the time. I just don't think Trump is evil. He doesn't walk on water so I guess in some peoples' eyes that makes him evil. Oh well.
 
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Mitspa

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All those people around Trump speak of his charity and kindness towards those weaker than him. I admit he spouts off like a New Yorker at times and gives the liberal MSM and the PC police in the Dem party a chance to paint him certain ways ... But folks are tired of the PC and the MSM and looking for a leader to fix the mess we are in. Clearly Trump is a good man... its evident to anyone looking to see the truth.
 
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WarriorForChrist

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I have no problem with people not voting. If you don't vote then you have no room or right to complain about how things are going. Even when Romney was running Christians said the same thing. Will we ever have a candidate that we fully trust? Heck even Bush had his issues. I think it is just a cop out to not vote at all.
 
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All those people around Trump speak of his charity and kindness towards those weaker than him. I admit he spouts off like a New Yorker at times and gives the liberal MSM and the PC police in the Dem party a chance to paint him certain ways ... But folks are tired of the PC and the MSM and looking for a leader to fix the mess we are in. Clearly Trump is a good man... its evident to anyone looking to see the truth.

Have you ever seen any of his kids on tmz or in the news for being idiots? No, and it's because he has raised good people and that speaks volumes about the man trump is.