The Anti-Christ Will Be a Man or Islam?
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What John was emphasizing at 1 John 2:19, was what Christ and the apostle Paul had earlier warned about to the members of the Christian congregation and of the religious leaders outside the congregation rejecting or not accepting what they taught. (Matthew 7:15; 2 Timothy 4:3, 4) Such people were referred to as apostates or antichrists. (2 Thessalonians 2:3-5; 1 John 2:18; 2 John 7) This is not inclusive to any one individual/s, but kingdoms, nations, and organizations are singularly shown to be part of the antichrist in the symbolic description at Revelations 17:8-15; 19:19-21.
Just as what happens today, such was the same during the apostolic period. Members of the Christian congregation were not fully committed, did not have a complete heart, and were not of like thinking. Therefore, they eventually imposed their own philosophies and influenced others. (Matthew 24:4, 11; Luke 21:8; Acts 20:29; 2 Peter 2:1-3) They abandoned or were expulsed from the congregation where they form destructive sects. Compare Matthew 7:21-23; Mark 13:21, 22; Luke 13:24-27; 1 Corinthians 15:33; 2 Corinthians 6:14.
Just as what happens today, such was the same during the apostolic period. Members of the Christian congregation were not fully committed, did not have a complete heart, and were not of like thinking. Therefore, they eventually imposed their own philosophies and influenced others. (Matthew 24:4, 11; Luke 21:8; Acts 20:29; 2 Peter 2:1-3) They abandoned or were expulsed from the congregation where they form destructive sects. Compare Matthew 7:21-23; Mark 13:21, 22; Luke 13:24-27; 1 Corinthians 15:33; 2 Corinthians 6:14.
well,i,m really surprised of ignorant people,here in this thread.The people who know nothing about Islam or are under the influence of false propaganda against Islam are relating Islam and anti Christ.when, we Muslims have been warned against anti Christ centuries age...and we have been asked to beware of his false preachings and his illusions and we ask God to save us from him..............what , u people living in western world know about Islam......?only the propaganda that,s continuing against it from centuries....? Why the church was afraid of Islam..? because of the weaknesses of christianity that were the result of false beliefs that were included in bible by church..
The people should keep their prejudice aside and look at the brutalities against Muslims in palestine,Iraq, Afghanistan,mayamar............
Islam is the last religion liked by god.And we Muslims beleive in one God who is all powerfull and kind.we beleive in pious life and the day of judgement and the life after death where everyone will b responsible for his own sins that is very much logical .not like christianity where sins r commited by one person and r kept on shoulders of the prophet Christ.Its not tricky and confusing like trinity which even Christians are unable to understand.......
The people should keep their prejudice aside and look at the brutalities against Muslims in palestine,Iraq, Afghanistan,mayamar............
Islam is the last religion liked by god.And we Muslims beleive in one God who is all powerfull and kind.we beleive in pious life and the day of judgement and the life after death where everyone will b responsible for his own sins that is very much logical .not like christianity where sins r commited by one person and r kept on shoulders of the prophet Christ.Its not tricky and confusing like trinity which even Christians are unable to understand.......
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most people are just afraid of Islam because of terrorists... it's not so much propaganda as it is protectionism.
there are wounds on both sides.
As I said earlier in the thread, Islam cannot be the "Anti-Christ", nor can it even be the "Beast".
Some hill-country "christians" can't get past their political views when looking at spiritual things.
there are wounds on both sides.
As I said earlier in the thread, Islam cannot be the "Anti-Christ", nor can it even be the "Beast".
Some hill-country "christians" can't get past their political views when looking at spiritual things.
Beware of Walid Shoebat, a propagandist for anti-Christs (1 John 2:18, 22, 4:3), for the counterfeit Jews (Rev. 2:9: 3:9) he glorifies as Israel. Shoebat's definition of anti-Christ is designed to keep us focused away from this word in its original context. John's, the only application of "anti-Christ" in scripture identifies, in present tense, a plurality, and by their theology. Anyone, Jew or non-Jew, who denies that Jesus is the Christ (Messiah) is "anti-Christ (1 John 2:22). Anyone, Jew or non-Jew, who denies that Messiah "is come in the flesh" is, according to Bible definition---"an anti-Christ" (2 John v. 7). We are then told to maintain a policy of nonsupport for this element (2 John v. 10-11). Do not therefore be deceived by false teachers who use verses not containing this word to focus your attention on it. Any application of "anti-Christ" contrary to John's application of this word is false, out of context, and a smokescreen for "them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are of the synagogue of Satan" (Rev. 2:9; 3:9).
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get over it man.
when people say Antichrist with a capital, they mean the "man of sin" / the "son of perdition".
stop bickering over words, and stop referring to my age. I find both are a pathetic attempt at gaining authority.
what part of my post do you actually disagree with? Just my use of the common phrase "Antichrist" you disagree with?
I specified by saying "Beast" also.
when people say Antichrist with a capital, they mean the "man of sin" / the "son of perdition".
stop bickering over words, and stop referring to my age. I find both are a pathetic attempt at gaining authority.
what part of my post do you actually disagree with? Just my use of the common phrase "Antichrist" you disagree with?
I specified by saying "Beast" also.
Sophia, the "anti-Christs" (1 John 2:18, 4:3), those who deny that Jesus is the Messiah, those who deny that Messiah is come in the flesh, can be of any nationality. They are, however, disproportionately, very disproportionately found among "them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are of the synagogue of Satan" (Rev. 2:9; 39). Do not therefore, be deceived when those of the dispensationalist-futurist establishment repeat this word as the title of a future dictator said to attack the Israelis. This application is out of context, and obviously, a smokescreen for those who fit the Bible definition of anti-Christ.
The Antichrist is the flesh, that doesn't want us to let go of our wicked desires, that has been making our soul to rebelled against God ever since the beginning.
Genesis 3:6
When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.
Romans 6:12
Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires.
Romans 7:18
For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out.
Romans 9:16It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy.
Romans 13:14
Rather, clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ, and do not think about how to gratify the desires of the flesh.
Matthew 6:10
your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.
Genesis 3:6
When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.
Romans 6:12
Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires.
Romans 7:18
For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out.
Romans 9:16It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy.
Romans 13:14
Rather, clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ, and do not think about how to gratify the desires of the flesh.
Matthew 6:10
your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.
LT, stop ignoring "anti-Christ" in context. Stop ignoring John's (1 John 2:18, 22; 4:3; 2 John v. 7), the only application of this word in scripture. Stop repeating this word as a proper noun ("the Anti-Christ"). Stop using scripture texts not containing this word (Daniel 9:27, 2 Thess. 2:3-4, Rev. 13) to focus attention away from those who fit the Bible definition of "anti-Christ." Yes, the religious establishment does this, they do repeat this word with a capital "A" but this is out of context, and serves only as a smokescreen for those who fit the Bible definition of "anti-Christ." So, do not be duped by a smokescreen boogeyman, this one man only idea the dispensationalist-futurist establishment conveniently calls "the Anti-Christ." Exercise a degree of discernment and recognize this fabrication as a cover for those who deny that Jesus is the Messiah (1 John 2:22, for those who deny that Messiah "is come in the flesh" 2 John v. 7). Please, do not be so naïve, it should not take more than a third grade understanding to recognize that someone is repeating "anti-Christ" out of context, and for the benefit of--- "...them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are of the synagogue of Satan" (Rev. 2:9; 3:9).
you are confusing topics.
are you denying the historical-premillenialist view?
if so, what position do you propose.
and you are out of line by trying to correct people's use of 'antichrist' as a proper noun.
you are right that 'antichrist' is anyone who denies Christ.
But don't you know that anyone who sins is a 'man of sin'?!
ever person that denies Christ is a type for the one to come.
there will be a man who will fulfill the prophecies about the 'Man of Sin', the 'AntiChrist'.
are you denying the historical-premillenialist view?
if so, what position do you propose.
and you are out of line by trying to correct people's use of 'antichrist' as a proper noun.
you are right that 'antichrist' is anyone who denies Christ.
But don't you know that anyone who sins is a 'man of sin'?!
ever person that denies Christ is a type for the one to come.
there will be a man who will fulfill the prophecies about the 'Man of Sin', the 'AntiChrist'.
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LT, Please do not repeat the word beast as a proper noun, i.e., with a capital "B." Scripture does not use it this way, the Futurist establishment does, but scripture does not. The beast of Revelation is not a one man future only entity. "The beast" (13:2, ect.) is a beast system, one operating then, and now. Neither then, is "the beast" (scriptural application) one and the same with a smokescreen boogeyman said to be "the Anti-Christ." These applications, false, and out of context, are designed as cover for "the many anti-Christs," and for "the beast" system operating now. Someone, young as you, should be able to catch on to these things. I highly recommend that you visit www.truthinhistory.org for what the religious establishment does not want you to know.
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this is in the statement of faith for that website.
WE BELIEVE that, according to the Scriptures, God elected and predestined the twelve sons of Jacob/Israel of the family of Abraham as a holy people, a royal priesthood whereby to carry out His plan and purpose in the earth through whom all nations are to be blessed (Genesis 12:1-3; 22:16-18).
WE BELIEVE that the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Celtic, Scandinavian and related peoples are the only people that fulfill all the prophetic earmarks that identify them with being the literal physical descendants of the ancient people of Old Testament history known as Israelites (Genesis Chapters 48 & 49; Deuteronomy 7:6-8). Being that every Israelite is born in sin, it is therefore necessary for each one to repent in order to receive the gift of salvation. Salvation is by grace and is not a result of works or genetic lineage.
you can keep your racist nonsense to yourself!
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WE BELIEVE that, according to the Scriptures, God elected and predestined the twelve sons of Jacob/Israel of the family of Abraham as a holy people, a royal priesthood whereby to carry out His plan and purpose in the earth through whom all nations are to be blessed (Genesis 12:1-3; 22:16-18).
WE BELIEVE that the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Celtic, Scandinavian and related peoples are the only people that fulfill all the prophetic earmarks that identify them with being the literal physical descendants of the ancient people of Old Testament history known as Israelites (Genesis Chapters 48 & 49; Deuteronomy 7:6-8). Being that every Israelite is born in sin, it is therefore necessary for each one to repent in order to receive the gift of salvation. Salvation is by grace and is not a result of works or genetic lineage.
you can keep your racist nonsense to yourself!
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SolidGround, your explanation, also out of context, is very dogmatic, and serves only as a smokescreen for those of that flag you fly, those who "...say they are Jews, and are not, but are of the synagogue of Satan" (Rev. 2:9; 3:9). Please, recognize God's Word in context, and stop flying that flag---of the anti-Christ people.