What happens when Believers don't obey the Gospel
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you are babbling bro ...faith without works is dead....you say a person can have faith without works......that is what you have been saying all along....you call it saving faith /genuine faith which requires no works because it is alone....the scripture teaches faith without works is dead being alone...you can flip your bible to whatever angle , change to whatever translation or language.Hebrew or Greek..it is still the same faith without works is dead....
The Gospel is the Death, Burial, Resurrection of Jesus Christ. To believe the gospel we must believe all of it.
Peter knew this in Acts...
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
1. Death = repent
2. Burial = water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins
3. Resurrection = Holy Spirit
Notice the above, we have both water and spirit (burial and resurrection).
Now then, you say that the water is not the water, lets look at other scriptures regarding water baptism with G907...
Matthew 3:6 And were baptized[SUP][SUB]G907[/SUB][/SUP] of him in Jordan, confessing their sins.
Matthew 3:13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized[SUP]G907[/SUP] of him.
Matthew 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized[SUP]G907[/SUP], went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
By-the-way you still have not answered newbirth...
With sincere hope that you come to the truth,
God bless!
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No, Your babbling, There is no such thing as faith without works. that is why it is dead. it does not exist, it has no life. that is why it is powerless to do any work,
No, I have not, I have been saying all along there is no such thing as faith apart from works. and everyone in this room has seen it, and now know and understand you are a liar, and false accuser.
not even worth responding to. because it claims I have said or believe something I do not.
when you want to discuss what I actually believe, let me know
No, I have not, I have been saying all along there is no such thing as faith apart from works. and everyone in this room has seen it, and now know and understand you are a liar, and false accuser.
not even worth responding to. because it claims I have said or believe something I do not.
when you want to discuss what I actually believe, let me know
Oh man where does the scripture teach that....where did you hijack God to get the HS???? this is the yardstick you need to measure by...that is where the promise is mentioned...
[SUP]38 [/SUP]Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and
ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
[SUP]41 [/SUP]Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
receive the word ...repent...get baptised ...receive the gift of the HS
[SUP]38 [/SUP]Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and
ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
[SUP]41 [/SUP]Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
receive the word ...repent...get baptised ...receive the gift of the HS
dude, you don't need to 'hijack God' to receive the Holy Spirit.
you don't "buy the spirit" with money or with special sacramental works.
you receive it in faith.
all you have to do is believe Christ came in the flesh & was raised the third day.
While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit came on all who heard the message.
(Acts 10:44)
if you have the Spirit, it will make you to become obedient.
salvation is the work of God, not of ourselves.
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People can say what they want and disagree with what I or others say, but do not disagree with what Jesus said.
He commanded baptism, and said those who are truly His will keep and obey His commands.
Luke 13:3
I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.
Mark 16:16
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Matthew 28:16-20
The Great Commission
16 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
[h=1]Matthew 10:32-33
Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.[/h]
Luke 6:46
And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
He commanded baptism, and said those who are truly His will keep and obey His commands.
Luke 13:3
I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.
Mark 16:16
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Matthew 28:16-20
The Great Commission
16 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
[h=1]Matthew 10:32-33
Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.[/h]
Luke 6:46
And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
Jesus never said "H[SUB]2[/SUB]O baptism is the gate"
He said:
I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved.
They will come in and go out, and find pasture.
(John 10:9)
works don't save. only Jesus saves.
salvation is unto works not by works.
First clean the inside of the cup and dish,
and then the outside also will be clean.
(Matthew 23:26)
He said:
I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved.
They will come in and go out, and find pasture.
(John 10:9)
works don't save. only Jesus saves.
salvation is unto works not by works.
First clean the inside of the cup and dish,
and then the outside also will be clean.
(Matthew 23:26)
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Yes, but the style of baptism that Jesus commanded in Matthew 28 and Mark 16 is done with water.
The Greek word translated to English is baptizo, which means immersion in water, so when He commanded the Apostles to make disciples out of all the nations by baptizing ( baptizo ) in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
That scripture is saying to immerse them in water while saying, I baptize you in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
This is continued in Acts, as well as the epistles as to water still being used in baptism.
