If a christian commits suicide, would they go to hell?
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I can think of nothing that makes one look worse than to put their own ignorance on public display and try to pass it off as knowledge. This is exactly what has triggered my mindset of my last half dozen or so posts.
There is an old saying that many would do to heed: "Better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt"
Not calling you a fool, but simply illustrating how weak you are in scripture. Study to show yourself approved unto God is something you need to start catching up on - yesterday.
There is an old saying that many would do to heed: "Better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt"
Not calling you a fool, but simply illustrating how weak you are in scripture. Study to show yourself approved unto God is something you need to start catching up on - yesterday.
S
By the way I have been a Christian for 30 years. I know enough about Scripture to place my faith in Jesus Christ for salvation, and a lot beyond that 
Your profile says you are unsure. Your history shows you going around on various threads criticizing others' understanding of Scripture. On what basis do you do that, if you haven't even placed your faith in Jesus Christ for salvation?
Your profile says you are unsure. Your history shows you going around on various threads criticizing others' understanding of Scripture. On what basis do you do that, if you haven't even placed your faith in Jesus Christ for salvation?
W
You must have missed the post where someone said: Thou shall not murder/kill -- and then stated that killing oneself is essentially the same as murdering oneself (suicide).
Another thought to consider: If the answer is 'No' -- then why bother with sending Jesus in the first place? Why all of the scripture which instructs us on how we are to live?
Another thought to consider: If the answer is 'No' -- then why bother with sending Jesus in the first place? Why all of the scripture which instructs us on how we are to live?
It just occurred to me that there really are not any instructions on how we are to die. I agree that suicide is wrong and obviously (usually) very selfish even if one is in all kinds of pain, it is all self driven and focused, certainly not enough thought/consideration given to others, especially perhaps to God. I would really hate to judge such people harshly, all the more so if they are lost. However, the movie The Sunset Limited actually addressed this question, for Tommy Lee Jones' character could find no meaning in life, and wanted to end it all in despair at the thought of so much suffering having no ultimate meaning, and yet he refused to surrender his will to belief in God even if that could save him... he would rather die than surrender his obstinate will. It also makes me think of how we are to die to self, and how difficult, really, that can be...
W
Ok Greggy -- Let's try this again;
I said: Here's what I was referring to:
Here's your response:
Hopefully this has helped clarify -- because I don't think you intend to argue that God said suicide and murder are the same.
Continuing....
If you first understand the above, then this question should become irrelevant -- however, if you require further clarification, just ask.
Now, did you consider my thoughts?
Also, we can consider: If God condones (or approves of) suicide -- why is this not written in the Scriptures?
Finally, if your argument is simply: "Someone who commits suicide will (definitely) not go to Hell." -- What, then, do you believe will happen to them?
I said: Here's what I was referring to:
Here's your response:
Hopefully this has helped clarify -- because I don't think you intend to argue that God said suicide and murder are the same.
Continuing....
If you first understand the above, then this question should become irrelevant -- however, if you require further clarification, just ask.
Now, did you consider my thoughts?
Also, we can consider: If God condones (or approves of) suicide -- why is this not written in the Scriptures?
Finally, if your argument is simply: "Someone who commits suicide will (definitely) not go to Hell." -- What, then, do you believe will happen to them?
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As one who has struggled (still does) with suicide -- I absolutely cringe when I hear people say that it is selfish.
Here's why:
I feel I am helping others, if I end my life:
- I will no longer consume (and waste, as so many of us do -- without even realizing the extent to which we waste), which means there will be more [resources] for others.
- People I continue to 'wrong' will no longer be 'wronged' by me.
Honestly, my hope in God is the only idea that has kept me this long. I fear that which is unknown -- and I truly do not know what would happen to what I call 'myself' if I committed suicide. I fear that it might lead to Hell, but what concerns me more -- is not participating in God's Kingdom.
Note: Did not intend for this to be offensive or an attack -- simply speaking what was on my heart after seeing your post. I do appreciate your post, especially this thought:
Here's why:
I feel I am helping others, if I end my life:
- I will no longer consume (and waste, as so many of us do -- without even realizing the extent to which we waste), which means there will be more [resources] for others.
- People I continue to 'wrong' will no longer be 'wronged' by me.
Honestly, my hope in God is the only idea that has kept me this long. I fear that which is unknown -- and I truly do not know what would happen to what I call 'myself' if I committed suicide. I fear that it might lead to Hell, but what concerns me more -- is not participating in God's Kingdom.
Note: Did not intend for this to be offensive or an attack -- simply speaking what was on my heart after seeing your post. I do appreciate your post, especially this thought:
Ok Greggy -- Let's try this again;
I said:
Here's what I was referring to:
Here's your response:
Hopefully this has helped clarify -- because I don't think you intend to argue that God said suicide and murder are the same.
Continuing....
If you first understand the above, then this question should become irrelevant -- however, if you require further clarification, just ask.
Now, did you consider my thoughts?
Also, we can consider: If God condones (or approves of) suicide -- why is this not written in the Scriptures?
Finally, if your argument is simply: "Someone who commits suicide will (definitely) not go to Hell." -- What, then, do you believe will happen to them?
I said:
Here's what I was referring to:
Here's your response:
Hopefully this has helped clarify -- because I don't think you intend to argue that God said suicide and murder are the same.
Continuing....
If you first understand the above, then this question should become irrelevant -- however, if you require further clarification, just ask.
Now, did you consider my thoughts?
Also, we can consider: If God condones (or approves of) suicide -- why is this not written in the Scriptures?
Finally, if your argument is simply: "Someone who commits suicide will (definitely) not go to Hell." -- What, then, do you believe will happen to them?
OP said
I said
You said
Second part of your post has nothing to do with the op question. And makes no sense.
Murder and suicide are completly different, agreed.
There is no scripture saying you go to hell. So any thing else is adding to scripture.
There nothing you can clear up here for me.
K
Nobody knows the answer to this question. Neither do they know such an individuals obviously excruciating distress (their personal suffering) that would bring them to that place where they would even contemplate such a thing. I do know of a parent or two that have suffered the loss of a child and have never recovered from it, emotionally. Life to them "doesn't really matter anymore" ... whether they remain living or die, that is. Is adultery committed in one's heart any less a sin than one who no longer finds in their heart a healthy desire to carry on anymore ? Are we not told that one who hates a brother or a sister commits murder (in their own heart) ? Jesus said they do. Matters of this depth and degree are rightly judged only by God. All too often we judge illness in the context of our physical being. A severely broken heart and distraught mind are no less an infirmity. And is certainly not ours to judge. My two cents worth.