Is the Devil bound right now...?

[Ahwatukee]

dear Bowman this is your way of understanding, but i cant find a scripture proof of it. and it makes no sense to debate with you on it, because you believing your way. To believe that Satan is bound yet, you only can proof in the way to missinterpret verses which obviously dont speak about it
Well, you are free to believe that, but you cant convince, because you ignore scripture which you also can use literal and not spiritual ore allegoric. So what is your goal with this thread?

Congratulations wolfwint! You finally realize that though the amil's ignore scripture, yet at the same time they are claiming that they teaching from it. The reason for this is because it is the teachings of men which has replaced scripture. They are more concerned about contending for this teaching that they've adopted instead of knowing what the truth is. It is only when these things begin to take place before their very eyes that they will understand that the word of God means exactly what it says, at least I hope they will.

 

[Bowman]

dear Bowman this is your way of understanding, but i cant find a scripture proof of it. and it makes no sense to debate with you on it, because you believing your way. To believe that Satan is bound yet, you only can proof in the way to missinterpret verses which obviously dont speak about it
Well, you are free to believe that, but you cant convince, because you ignore scripture which you also can use literal and not spiritual ore allegoric. So what is your goal with this thread?

I have posted numerous scriptures showing that Satan is bound.

I don’t rely upon one verse (like you, and others) to demonstrate my point.

Building a doctrine around one single solitary verse is what cults do.

Cults excuse themselves when it comes to studying the original languages, because it requires too much effort, and God is not worth it to them.

Have fun in your ignorance..

 

[Bowman]

Congratulations wolfwint! You finally realize that though the amil's ignore scripture, yet at the same time they are claiming that they teaching from it. The reason for this is because it is the teachings of men which has replaced scripture. They are more concerned about contending for this teaching that they've adopted instead of knowing what the truth is. It is only when these things begin to take place before their very eyes that they will understand that the word of God means exactly what it says, at least I hope they will.

Amazing how Johnny-on-the-spot you are when you don't have to defend scripture...and can readily provide your merit-less opinion...

 

[DiscipleDave]

Yes, and Luke 4 shows that also, since the devil has been given the kingdoms of this world and he offered them to Jesus if He would worship him.

Rev.11 also shows us when all the kingdoms of this world become those of The Father and His Son.

All the Kingdoms of this world are not given to the Father, until the 7th Trumpet is blown, which is also the last Trumpet, and is when Jesus Christ Returns with the New City Jerusalem with Him. Where He and the Father and the Angels, and the Saints will live in, and reign over the 144,000 who make it through the Tribulation Period, with their offspring, for a thousand years.

^i^ responding to post # 1628

 

[valiant]

All the Kingdoms of this world are not given to the Father, until the 7th Trumpet is blown, which is also the last Trumpet,

How then is Jesus NOW the ruler of the kings of the earth ? (Rev 1.5). How is it that GOD REIGNS NOW ? (Psalm 97.1 ff).
Those words in Revelation are simply an indication that the King has conquered those who were in rebellion against Him. It does not mean that He did not reign until now.

I am surprised the Holy Spirit did not teach you that LOL

and is when Jesus Christ Returns with the New City Jerusalem with Him.

the New Jerusalem is the bride of the Lamb, it thus represents the church old and new (Rev 21.3)

Where He and the Father and the Angels, and the Saints will live in, and reign over the 144,000 who make it through the Tribulation Period, with their offspring, for a thousand years.

what evidence have you that that 144000 were those who lived and reigned with Him?. (your prophetic voices? LOL).

Christ is living and reigning with the SOULS of His saints NOW. It has nothing to do with any tribulation period apart from the one that has constantly occurred through the ages. Martyrs and those who abstained from the mark of the Beast existed in 1st century AD. They have continued to increase through the centuries.
The 144,000 simply represent the whole church NOW.

 

[DiscipleDave]

Dave you nauseate me. I tell you again, PLEASE DO NOT COUNSEL ANYONE GRIEVING WITH YOUR GARBAGE OPINIONS ABOUT SLEEPING IN THE GRAVE. I placed my wife's ashes in the Veterans Wall today, and I guarantee you, neither her soul, nor her spirit were in those ashes.

i was talking with another, then you addressed me, remember. If you do not want to hear what others teach on a particular matter, then it would be wise for you to not address them on that matter, then turn around and say, PLEASE do not counsel me on this matter, when you are the one who provoked them to respond to you.... Is that wise? Or do you just want to lash out because you are grieving, and have someone to lash out too?

Secondly who said her spirit was in the ashes? i didn't. The only thing i have said, and Scriptures also teaches, is that the Spirit SLEEPS, and is NOT in Heaven, or in Hell. i have never said once, or even implied one time, WHERE the spirit sleeps.

Have you NEVER heard of "Euphenisms" for died.

AWAKEN to the hurt and harm you are doing.

Because i say and teach, exactly like the Bible, that a person Sleeps, i am harming you? i am hurting you? You do not believe me at all, is that not correct? How then is what i am teaching is hurting you or harming you at all. Now if i were to say, the spirit of your wife is in Hell, that i could understand harming you, or hurting you. But to say she is asleep, how is that harming you or hurting you? Sounds to me, your lashing out, thus how you handle your grief, and if so, and it helps you grieve your loss, then lash on, i can take it.

YOU cause deep emotion hurt to anyone who is grieving when you tell your twisted theories about sleeping in the grave to one who is grieving. THAT IS THE OPPOSITE OF CHRISTIAN LOVE.

lol, you act as if i am saying they are in Hell Fire when they die. But because i say they are ASLEEP that is causing you deep emotional hurt, seriously? Deep emotional hurt because i say she is asleep? Scriptures teach they sleep in Christ.

1Th_4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

Does that Inspired by God verse hurt you as well? i say and teach they sleep, you say i cause deep emotional hurt for teaching that, Scriptures teach that also, so do they too cause you deep emotional hurt? What about this verse:

Dan_12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Oh my!!! if i teach that also, that they sleep and one day when Christ Returns that is when they rise, that is when they are Judged, that is when they will enter into Everlasting Life, or Everlasting Contempt, i am then NOT giving Christian Love? When is the giving someone the Truth considered NOT CHRISTIAN LOVE? i tell you the Truth, and you do not believe that Truth, i say she is asleep, exactly like the Word of God teaches, and you say i am giving deep emotional hurt and harm to people. Why? Because i tell them the Truth? If you do not care to hear the Truth, while you are still in the grieving stage, then it might be best on your part to just stop responding to my posts. But if you desire to lash out, by all means continue to address me, and i will continue to respond. OK?

The human spirits and souls of the beheaded Tribulation Saints, appear in heaven under the altar, BECAUSE THEY ARE THERE TO COME THROUGH THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB WASHING THEIR ROBES WHITE, WHICH THE HIGH PRIEST ALWAYS POURED THE LAMB'S BLOOD OUT AT THE BASE OF THE ALTAR. (LOOK IT UP.)

Don't have to look it up, have read the entire Bible over 80 times in my life, i know what it says. The problem is, not with the Bible and what it says, but with the interpretation of men claiming the Bible to say things that it does not say. For example the above verse does not say anything at all about if a person dies TODAY, they immediately go to Heaven or to Hell. Yet you have referrenced this particular verse to support your doctrine that people immediately go to Heaven or to HELL when they die, yet the verse above is in the FUTURE, it has not yet happened. That is like unto to a person teaching that a child can play in the asp hole TODAY and not get bitten, because this verse says.

Isa_11:8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.

Which is a verse referring to what is going to happen in the FUTURE, NOT what is happening today.

AND THEY ARE NOT SLEEPING IN THE GRAVE, THEY ARE CRYING OUT WITH A LOUD VOICE, AS THEY ARE GIVEN WHITE ROBES, AND ARE PRESENT IN HEAVEN. PLUS THERE ARE A MULTITUDE OF US THERE AS THE MARTYRED TRIBULATION SAINTS ARRIVES, AND NONE OF US ARE SLEEPING IN THE GRAVE EITHER.

WHEN are they given white robes? WHEN do they cry out? You say and teach they are crying out RIGHT NOW, that is not TRUE, nor is it correct, nor is that Scriptural. WHEN do they get white robes? When do they cry out? According to Scriptures this happens AFTER the 144,000 are selected, and sealed by God. Has that happened yet? NO, that has not happened yet. pay attention to the beginning of the verse.

Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

After what was this seen, Read the previous verses, the 144,000 are being sealed. These are they that are sealed, protected by Angels during the Tribulation Period.

my point is, you use this verse to support your doctrine that they are in Heaven right NOW, when it does not say nor teach that, that is what men teach, not the Word of God. That verse is referring to an event that is going to happen in the Future, NOT happening right now.

Revelation 7:9-10 (NASB)

[SUP]9 [/SUP] After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, and palm branches were in their hands;
[SUP]10 [/SUP] and they cry out with a loud voice, [NOT SLEEPING IN THE GRAVE] saying, "Salvation to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb."

True, but before that future event happens they are indeed sleeping, in other words, they are sleeping right NOW, but one day in the future, those who were killed will rise when Christ gets here, and then the above verse will be fulfilled.

Revelation 7:13-14 (NASB)

[SUP]13 [/SUP] Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, "These who are clothed in the white robes, who are they, and where have they come from?"
[SUP]14 [/SUP] I said to him, "My lord, you know." And he said to me, "These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, [NOT SLEEPING IN THE GRAVE] and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

Please note what the Word of God says, these are they that come out of the great tribulations. Tell me, has the Great Tribulation happened already? NO it has not, so these souls that cry out HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN White robes yet. When do they get white robes and cry out to God, WHEN they come out of the Great Tribulations, NOT BEFORE THEN. You seem to believe they are there NOW, that they are in Heaven crying out NOW, that is NOT what Scriptures teach.

Revelation 6:9-11 (NASB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] When the Lamb broke the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God, and because of the testimony which they had maintained;
[SUP]10 [/SUP] and they cried out with a loud voice[NOT SLEEPING IN THE GRAVE] saying, "How long, O Lord, holy and true, will You refrain from judging and avenging our blood on those who dwell on the earth?"
[SUP]11 [/SUP] And there was given to each of them a white robe; and they were told that they should rest for a little while longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brethren who were to be killed even as they had been, would be completed also. [/quote]

This is a future event, NOT happening right now.

REPENT, YOU HAVE HURT ENOUGH PEOPLE WITH YOUR TWISTED THEORIES!

Anyone who teaches others things that are not Scriptural, should indeed repent. The doctrine that teaches when a person dies they are Judged right then and there to either go to Heaven or go to Hell, is a false doctrine, And can't be found in Scriptures AT ALL, and none of the verses you quote, say or teach that when a person dies they immediately go to Heaven or to Hell, the verses you quote, are all future events, not what is happening right now, and they who teach such false doctrines should indeed repent of it for teaching lies, things that are not True.

Those who are on milk, will most assuredly spit out the meat, thinking it tastes like Malarky, or a twisted taste to it.

^i^ responding to post # 1653

 

[DiscipleDave]

DiscipleDave said

All the Kingdoms of this world are not given to the Father, until the 7th Trumpet is blown, which is also the last Trumpet,

How then is Jesus NOW the ruler of the kings of the earth ? (Rev 1.5). How is it that GOD REIGNS NOW ? (Psalm 97.1 ff).

YOU, say these things, SCriptures do not teach those things. YOUR interpretation of those verses teaches you that, but interpretations do not belong to men, they belong to God, therefore you should NOT interpret the Word of God, who are YOU, to do so?

Those words in Revelation are simply an indication that the King has conquered those who were in rebellion against Him. It does not mean that He did not reign until now.

The King will conquer all other nations, when all nations come against Him When He sets up His Kingdom in Jerusalem. This has not yet happened yet. Jesus has not conquered all nations on the Earth, this is a future event.

I am surprised the Holy Spirit did not teach you that LOL

Your not listening, i never said the Holy Ghost told me these things, i say what i teach is from God. Not saying the Holy Spirit of Truth has not revealed things to me, but mostly what i teach is what God has told me.

DiscipleDave said

and is when Jesus Christ Returns with the New City Jerusalem with Him.

the New Jerusalem is the bride of the Lamb, it thus represents the church old and new (Rev 21.3)

You can say what it represents till your heart is content, does not change the Truth, that the New City Jerusalem comes down out of Heaven with Jesus Christ, when He Returns.

DiscipleDave said

Where He and the Father and the Angels, and the Saints will live in, and reign over the 144,000 who make it through the Tribulation Period, with their offspring, for a thousand years.

what evidence have you that that 144000 were those who lived and reigned with Him?. (your prophetic voices? LOL).

Your not listening to what i am saying, again. i never said the 144,000 LIVED and REIGNED with Jesus. i say and teach the Truth, The Saints live and reign with Jesus. The Saints live in the Holy City with the Father and Jesus. We (Jesus and the Saints) reign over the 144,000 that will be living on the Earth during the 1,000 year reign of Christ on Earth.

And i will tell you WHO told me these TRUTHS, if you can show me one verse that teaches contrary to what i have said above.

Christ is living and reigning with the SOULS of His saints NOW.

This is what you teach, Scriptures does not teach that.

It has nothing to do with any tribulation period apart from the one that has constantly occurred through the ages.

Says YOU, not Scriptures.

Martyrs and those who abstained from the mark of the Beast existed in 1st century AD.

Says YOU, Not Scriptures.

They have continued to increase through the centuries.The 144,000 simply represent the whole church NOW.

Says YOU, NOT Scriptures, Scriptures are quite clear who the 144,000 are.

Rev 7:2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
Rev 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
Rev 7:5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.
Rev 7:6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nepthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.
Rev 7:7 Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.
Rev 7:8 Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.

Rev 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.
Rev 14:2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:
Rev 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
Rev 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
Rev 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

You say the 144,000 represents the Church today, really? The Church today are virgins? The Church today follow the Lamb in everything? Has the Church today already been Redeemed (Raptured)? Is the Church today the firstfruits unto the Father right now? Does the Church today have NO guile in their mouths? The Church today are without FAULT right now? You do error not knowing the Truth or the Scriptures concerning the 144,000. You teach things that come from the minds of men, and not from God. And even those who have been taught by God, you refuse to listen to or believe, because you LOVE the doctrine that was given to you by men.

^i^ responding to post #1745

 

[Bowman]

Your not listening, i never said the Holy Ghost told me these things, i say what i teach is from God. Not saying the Holy Spirit of Truth has not revealed things to me, but mostly what i teach is what God has told me.

The Holy Spirit IS God.

You should have known this already, david.

 

[VCO]

"They triumphed over him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death."

Hi wolfwint,

Bowman just makes it up as he goes along, doesn't he?! The saints triumph over Satan by not loving their lives so much as to resist death while keeping the testimony of Jesus and the word of God. Rev.12:11 has nothing to do with Satan's binding which doesn't take place until after Christ's return to the earth to end the age in Rev.19:11-21.

Also, as we have pointed out so many times before, Satan's binding will be a literal binding under the earth in the Abyss, where it will be locked and sealed over him so that he will have no exposure to the earth's surface and its inhabitants during that literal thousand years, just as the scripture plainly states. Furthermore, after Satan and his angels are thrown out of the heaven, they will be free to focus all of their evil and malice upon the inhabitants of the earth afterward, which is why after he and his angels are thrown out it is stated, "But woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has gone down to you! He is filled with fury" That being said, there wouldn't be much woe to worry about if Satan was bound at the cross. But I'm sure that, as they always do, they will come up with some circumvention or distortion of the this.

Oh yes, he certainly does make it up as he goes along. I have noticed of the course of my life since I was born again in Dec. of 1977, that psuedo-christian cults, all try to bend scripture to make it fit their theories and opinions. Whereas genuinely born again Christians steadfastly conform their theories and opinions to what the Bible actually says.

 

[VCO]

i was talking with another, then you addressed me, remember. If you do not want to hear what others teach on a particular matter, then it would be wise for you to not address them on that matter, then turn around and say, PLEASE do not counsel me on this matter, when you are the one who provoked them to respond to you.... Is that wise? Or do you just want to lash out because you are grieving, and have someone to lash out too?

. . .

[video=youtube;cfg5VTyDkyA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfg5VTyDkyA[/video]

John 13:34-35 (NIV)
[SUP]34 [/SUP] "A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
[SUP]35 [/SUP] By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another."

1 John 4:11-13 (NKJV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] No one has seen God at any time. If we love one another, God abides in us, and His love has been perfected in us.
[SUP]13 [/SUP] By this we know that we abide in Him, and He in us, because He has given us of His Spirit.

Romans 5:5 (NKJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us.

I believe what the Bible says, and you believe something else:

Luke 16:19-31 (HCSB)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] “There was a rich man who would dress in purple and fine linen, feasting lavishly every day.
[SUP]20 [/SUP] But a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, was left at his gate.
[SUP]21 [/SUP] He longed to be filled with what fell from the rich man’s table, but instead the dogs would come and lick his sores.
[SUP]22 [/SUP] One day the poor man died and was carried away by the angels to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried.
[SUP]23 [/SUP] And being in torment in Hades, he looked up and saw Abraham a long way off, with Lazarus at his side.
[SUP]24 [/SUP] ‘Father Abraham!’ he called out, ‘Have mercy on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this flame!’
[SUP]25 [/SUP] “‘Son,’ Abraham said, ‘remember that during your life you received your good things, just as Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here, while you are in agony.
[SUP]26 [/SUP] Besides all this, a great chasm has been fixed between us and you, so that those who want to pass over from here to you cannot; neither can those from there cross over to us.’
[SUP]27 [/SUP] “‘Father,’ he said, ‘then I beg you to send him to my father’s house—
[SUP]28 [/SUP] because I have five brothers—to warn them, so they won’t also come to this place of torment.’
[SUP]29 [/SUP] “But Abraham said, ‘They have Moses and the prophets; they should listen to them.’
[SUP]30 [/SUP] “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said. ‘But if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’
[SUP]31 [/SUP] “But he told him, ‘If they don’t listen to Moses and the prophets, they will not be persuaded if someone rises from the dead.’”

Mark 6:11 (NLT)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] But if any place refuses to welcome you or listen to you, shake its dust from your feet as you leave to show that you have abandoned those people to their fate.”

 

[Bowman]

Oh yes, he certainly does make it up as he goes along. I have noticed of the course of my life since I was born again in Dec. of 1977, that psuedo-christian cults, all try to bend scripture to make it fit their theories and opinions. Whereas genuinely born again Christians steadfastly conform their theories and opinions to what the Bible actually says.

In lieu of your constant back-patting sessions, try putting forth a reply directed towards scriptural exegesis.

 

[Bowman]

DD,

As a self-proclaimed 'prophet of God'....how is it that you still use the outdated, outmoded and theologically incorrect KJV when you post scripture...?

 

[DP]

Rev 12 summarizes many things:

· Satan and his angels being cast to the earth.
· Jesus' death and subsequent singular Resurrection.
· The ‘1K year reign’ being AWAY from the presence of Satan (i.e. Satan is Bound).
· Satan sending a ‘river’ (i.e. the demons) after mankind – again, because he is bound and cannot make it in person.

The tradition you've been taught has control over you mind instead your mind being in control.

Rev 12:7-9
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,


8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.


9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
KJV

 

[saintandrew4life]

No he is not bound.

 

[DP]

All the Kingdoms of this world are not given to the Father, until the 7th Trumpet is blown, which is also the last Trumpet, and is when Jesus Christ Returns with the New City Jerusalem with Him. Where He and the Father and the Angels, and the Saints will live in, and reign over the 144,000 who make it through the Tribulation Period, with their offspring, for a thousand years.

^i^ responding to post # 1628

My post #1628 does not disagree with that. Per Luke 4 when Jesus was being tempted by the devil, the devil showed Him all the kingdoms of this world and offered them to Him if He would worship him. The devil wasn't lying that God had given him the kingdoms of this world for this present time.

On the 7th trumpet - 3rd woe, that will change, for that will begin the time of Christ's future reign over all the kingdoms of this world, those kingdoms then becoming those of The Father and The Son, as written there in Revelation 11.

 

[VCO]

In lieu of your constant back-patting sessions, try putting forth a reply directed towards scriptural exegesis.

Titus 3:9-11 (NIV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] Warn a divisive person once, and then warn him a second time. After that, have nothing to do with him.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] You may be sure that such a man is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned.

 

[Bowman]

The tradition you've been taught has control over you mind instead your mind being in control.

Rev 12:7-9
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,


8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.


9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
KJV

Context proves my point...

Rev 12.14 ...

And two wings of the great eagle were given to the woman, that she might fly into the wilderness, to her place, where she is nourished there a time, and times, and half a time, away from the serpent's face.


The ONLY way to be AWAY from Satan's presence, is for him to be bound.

Simple, Biblical Truth...

 

[Bowman]

No he is not bound.

Yes, he is.

 

[Bowman]

Titus 3:9-11 (NIV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] Warn a divisive person once, and then warn him a second time. After that, have nothing to do with him.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] You may be sure that such a man is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned.

Who's talking about genealogies and the law?

 

[ukok102nak]

You cannot blame the act of terrorism, that just occurred in Paris, on Satan being loosed from his prison.

Jesus, Himself, told us in Mat 24 that terrible things would occur BEFORE the end comes, and BEFORE the release of the 'abomination of desolation' (i.e. Satan).

Jesus lists-out many things occurring BEFORE the release of Satan....false prophets, wars, rumors of wars, nation set against nation, famine, plagues, earthquakes, the killing of Christians, etc...

So....what we are seeing today IS to be expected, per scripture.


But....

When Satan is unbound, we will see, for a brief period, 'great affliction, such as has not happened from the beginning of the world until now, no, nor ever will be.'

Everything going on in the world today has been seen played-out in various forms for thousands of years.


Clearly, any student of scripture can see that Satan is bound today.

Study your scriptures, and thank God that Satan is currently bound!

Revelation: 9. 14. one saying to the sixth angel that had one trumpet, Loose the four angels that are bound at the great river Euphrates.
15. And the four angels were loosed, that had been prepared for the hour and day and month and year, that they should kill the third part of men.
~:» it is you who should study the scriptures and
WE NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT OUR OWN SCRIPTURES FOR WE DO NOT OWNED THE WORDS OF GOD . ...

:rofl: And what makes you say that Satan being loosed from his prison is
our view unto the said act of terrorism that happened on paris . ...

and from the start we remember that we were asking someone here to explain if what is the first thing to come . ...
:think: is it the great tribulation or the bounding of satan :hmm:

:happy: thank God that until now no one dare to answer it and that really shows who are unto truth and
unto their own make believed interpretation only . ...

God bless us all always

:ty: