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A sin is any wrong doing. Not keeping God Commandments is a wrong doing.
A Christian is able to not sin because of the power of God. A Christian receives the Holy Spirit who guides and gives the grace/power to defeat Satan/sin. What actually happens is that Jesus/Holy Spirit guide one in such a way that there is never any though to do anything but God’s Will. That may not happen right away.
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A Christian is able to not sin because of the power of God. A Christian receives the Holy Spirit who guides and gives the grace/power to defeat Satan/sin. What actually happens is that Jesus/Holy Spirit guide one in such a way that there is never any though to do anything but God’s Will. That may not happen right away.
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Jesus told us who it is that loves him.
(John 14: 23) “Anyone who loves me will keep my word and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make a home in him.”
(John 14:21) “Anybody who receives my commandments and keeps them will be one who loves me; and anybody who loves me will be loved by My Father, and I shall love him and show myself to him.”
(John 14: 23) “Anyone who loves me will keep my word and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make a home in him.”
(John 14:21) “Anybody who receives my commandments and keeps them will be one who loves me; and anybody who loves me will be loved by My Father, and I shall love him and show myself to him.”
Edification, exhortation , and Building up while in line with the word of God . If what one hears is condemning , prideful and push those away instead of drawing them closer to Christ .... Jesus Said it is better that a Mile stone was place about your next and cast into the sea if you cause one of my children to stumble. A prophet is subject to the prophet. The holy Spirit WILL NOT speak of HIMself as the Lord said in John 14, and 16
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Jesus Christ has a dual nature. He has a resurrection body. He has not bodily returned.
It is true that he is YHVH and is omnipresent, as one of the three Persons of the one God.
The claims of chat room prophets are cheap...same as chat room people who claimed they've raised the dead personally.
Do you really think God is going to send some anonymous chatter to a chat site to give us a message of importance, without proper validation of the alleged prophet's authority to speak for Him?
We weren't born yesterday dude.
Here's what it generally boils down to:
1. Someone is a troll amusing themselves. Maybe they didn't get enough attention from mommy or daddy when they were growing up.
2. Mental health issues.
3. Spiritual narcissism....due to the sinful pride of some, they think God is using them for a particular mission (like the "prophet" and
"apostle" of the cultic organization I followed as a young believer).
Can anyone else think of reasons why a person might proclaim themselves a prophet in a chat room forum?
Anyways, no validation of authority..no prophet and no apostles. God validates apostles and prophets in an unmistaken manner. Their message needs to be clearly biblical and they need to validate their authority through signs and wonders. I know of no such person today who meets those criteria.
I am open-minded to the idea that God may use such a person like this in the future, but there would have to be clear, unmistaken validation of such an individual. God doesn't expect us to be in doubt over such a person's authority. I would have to be confident of the fruits of such a person's life and doctrine, besides clear-cut manifestations of God's power through them by miraculous signs.
I am speaking in terms of apostles of Christ, sent by Christ or God personally, and not those sent out by the church for a specific function. I can see using the word apostle in a small "a" sense in regards to church planters or missionaries.
It is true that he is YHVH and is omnipresent, as one of the three Persons of the one God.
The claims of chat room prophets are cheap...same as chat room people who claimed they've raised the dead personally.
Do you really think God is going to send some anonymous chatter to a chat site to give us a message of importance, without proper validation of the alleged prophet's authority to speak for Him?
We weren't born yesterday dude.
Here's what it generally boils down to:
1. Someone is a troll amusing themselves. Maybe they didn't get enough attention from mommy or daddy when they were growing up.
2. Mental health issues.
3. Spiritual narcissism....due to the sinful pride of some, they think God is using them for a particular mission (like the "prophet" and
"apostle" of the cultic organization I followed as a young believer).
Can anyone else think of reasons why a person might proclaim themselves a prophet in a chat room forum?
Anyways, no validation of authority..no prophet and no apostles. God validates apostles and prophets in an unmistaken manner. Their message needs to be clearly biblical and they need to validate their authority through signs and wonders. I know of no such person today who meets those criteria.
I am open-minded to the idea that God may use such a person like this in the future, but there would have to be clear, unmistaken validation of such an individual. God doesn't expect us to be in doubt over such a person's authority. I would have to be confident of the fruits of such a person's life and doctrine, besides clear-cut manifestations of God's power through them by miraculous signs.
I am speaking in terms of apostles of Christ, sent by Christ or God personally, and not those sent out by the church for a specific function. I can see using the word apostle in a small "a" sense in regards to church planters or missionaries.
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Jesus Christ has a dual nature. He has a resurrection body. He has not bodily returned.
It is true that he is YHVH and is omnipresent, as one of the three Persons of the one God.
The claims of chat room prophets are cheap...same as chat room people who claimed they've raised the dead personally.
Do you really think God is going to send some anonymous chatter to a chat site to give us a message of importance, without proper validation of the alleged prophet's authority to speak for Him?
We weren't born yesterday dude.
Here's what it generally boils down to:
1. Someone is a troll amusing themselves. Maybe they didn't get enough attention from mommy or daddy when they were growing up.
2. Mental health issues.
3. Spiritual narcissism....due to the sinful pride of some, they think God is using them for a particular mission (like the "prophet" and
"apostle" of the cultic organization I followed as a young believer).
Can anyone else think of reasons why a person might proclaim themselves a prophet in a chat room forum?
Anyways, no validation of authority..no prophet and no apostles. God validates apostles and prophets in an unmistaken manner. Their message needs to be clearly biblical and they need to validate their authority through signs and wonders. I know of no such person today who meets those criteria.
It is true that he is YHVH and is omnipresent, as one of the three Persons of the one God.
The claims of chat room prophets are cheap...same as chat room people who claimed they've raised the dead personally.
Do you really think God is going to send some anonymous chatter to a chat site to give us a message of importance, without proper validation of the alleged prophet's authority to speak for Him?
We weren't born yesterday dude.
Here's what it generally boils down to:
1. Someone is a troll amusing themselves. Maybe they didn't get enough attention from mommy or daddy when they were growing up.
2. Mental health issues.
3. Spiritual narcissism....due to the sinful pride of some, they think God is using them for a particular mission (like the "prophet" and
"apostle" of the cultic organization I followed as a young believer).
Can anyone else think of reasons why a person might proclaim themselves a prophet in a chat room forum?
Anyways, no validation of authority..no prophet and no apostles. God validates apostles and prophets in an unmistaken manner. Their message needs to be clearly biblical and they need to validate their authority through signs and wonders. I know of no such person today who meets those criteria.
Jesus Christ has a dual nature. He has a resurrection body. He has not bodily returned.
It is true that he is YHVH and is omnipresent, as one of the three Persons of the one God.
The claims of chat room prophets are cheap...same as chat room people who claimed they've raised the dead personally.
Do you really think God is going to send some anonymous chatter to a chat site to give us a message of importance, without proper validation of the alleged prophet's authority to speak for Him?
We weren't born yesterday dude.
Here's what it generally boils down to:
1. Someone is a troll amusing themselves. Maybe they didn't get enough attention from mommy or daddy when they were growing up.
2. Mental health issues.
3. Spiritual narcissism....due to the sinful pride of some, they think God is using them for a particular mission (like the "prophet" and
"apostle" of the cultic organization I followed as a young believer).
Can anyone else think of reasons why a person might proclaim themselves a prophet in a chat room forum?
Anyways, no validation of authority..no prophet and no apostles. God validates apostles and prophets in an unmistaken manner. Their message needs to be clearly biblical and they need to validate their authority through signs and wonders. I know of no such person today who meets those criteria.
I am speaking in terms of apostles of Christ, sent by Christ or God personally, and not those sent out by the church for a specific function. I can see using the word apostle in a small "a" sense in regards to church planters or missionaries.
It is true that he is YHVH and is omnipresent, as one of the three Persons of the one God.
The claims of chat room prophets are cheap...same as chat room people who claimed they've raised the dead personally.
Do you really think God is going to send some anonymous chatter to a chat site to give us a message of importance, without proper validation of the alleged prophet's authority to speak for Him?
We weren't born yesterday dude.
Here's what it generally boils down to:
1. Someone is a troll amusing themselves. Maybe they didn't get enough attention from mommy or daddy when they were growing up.
2. Mental health issues.
3. Spiritual narcissism....due to the sinful pride of some, they think God is using them for a particular mission (like the "prophet" and
"apostle" of the cultic organization I followed as a young believer).
Can anyone else think of reasons why a person might proclaim themselves a prophet in a chat room forum?
Anyways, no validation of authority..no prophet and no apostles. God validates apostles and prophets in an unmistaken manner. Their message needs to be clearly biblical and they need to validate their authority through signs and wonders. I know of no such person today who meets those criteria.
I am speaking in terms of apostles of Christ, sent by Christ or God personally, and not those sent out by the church for a specific function. I can see using the word apostle in a small "a" sense in regards to church planters or missionaries.
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No Other Gospel
6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who calledyou to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel—7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!
This is not a call for us to curse, condemn or judge those with a wrong gospel ... this is a statement that if one believes the wrong Gospel then he is still under the curse of God, just as we were before we received the truth.
This should call us to love and help those who have the wrong Gospel to come to the truth and salvation.
6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who calledyou to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel—7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!
This is not a call for us to curse, condemn or judge those with a wrong gospel ... this is a statement that if one believes the wrong Gospel then he is still under the curse of God, just as we were before we received the truth.
This should call us to love and help those who have the wrong Gospel to come to the truth and salvation.