Name a place that God did NOT create. This is amazing...

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Magenta

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JIMBO43 said:
God or a higher kingdom ? that evolved long before we did whoever whatever WHERE ARE THEY IM PRAYING HARD YO SEND THE TROOPS :),

Sorry but im a bit of an atheist too in the sence i dont believe lies, and atheists want the truth as much as i do so we do have something common, but to reasure the atheists there is an evolved species that can travel spiritually and thats all you need to know, as for the rest well anyones guess as for me theres to many lies in the bible...

So in the begining the for contentants where sent from the four corners of the universe and bing bango bosh universal world war arupted.

where the battle of the universe being shown all over the galaxy of spiritual species lol chuckle chuckle :)
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Just a head's up: you will get yourself banned with continued talk like that.
 
Chester

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stonesoffire said:
He created everything perfect. Is hell perfect?
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It is a perfect place for the punishment of unbelievers. Can you come up with a better "hell" in which to punish unbelievers?
 
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stonesoffire said:
Its the structure of the sentence. There's nothing wrong with the word prepared as far as the Strongs?...it doesn't really say who prepared hell, just that it was and who it's for.
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O I see, so I guess you have a choice then for it was prepared, either from God or from ??
 
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Ok serious question that has been on my mind often. Am I correct in my interpretation of the Bible when it said something along the lines of "hell was thrown into the lake of fire and destroyed" or something, someone more knowledgeable can look up the scripture please.... so this second death...is it your soul being utterly destroyed, like vaporized never to exist? Because I am obviously not God, but this seems like a fair judgement for people who do not want to follow the will of God or even exist with Him in the afterlife. So to punish them in some torture chamber forever and ever....what would that accomplish? Let me be clear, that is strictly my opinion and my rationale, but I am only human and God has his purposes. Just want to know some of your take on this subject folks. Thank you.
 
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BeyondET said:
O I see, so I guess you have a choice then for it was prepared, either from God or from ??
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I see hell now as satans twisted version of a kingdom that he rules. And this will be destroyed in the final end by the lake of fire.
 
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Wild said:
Ok serious question that has been on my mind often. Am I correct in my interpretation of the Bible when it said something along the lines of "hell was thrown into the lake of fire and destroyed" or something, someone more knowledgeable can look up the scripture please.... so this second death...is it your soul being utterly destroyed, like vaporized never to exist? Because I am obviously not God, but this seems like a fair judgement for people who do not want to follow the will of God or even exist with Him in the afterlife. So to punish them in some torture chamber forever and ever....what would that accomplish? Let me be clear, that is strictly my opinion and my rationale, but I am only human and God has his purposes. Just want to know some of your take on this subject folks. Thank you.
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Easy it hasn't happen yet
 
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stonesoffire said:
I see hell now as satans twisted version of a kingdom that he rules. And this will be destroyed in the final end by the lake of fire.
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ooohh, ok stones, please look at my post above, would you agree with some of the things I stated, or not?
 
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stonesoffire said:
I see hell now as satans twisted version of a kingdom that he rules. And this will be destroyed in the final end by the lake of fire.
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Interesting you see hell explain please
 
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Sorry friend, that doesn't seem to answer my question..or could you elaborate on what you meant? Thanks!
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That is in revelations some of those verses haven't come to pass yet
 
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BeyondET said:
That is in revelations some of those verses haven't come to pass yet
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Would you agree that Hell, whatever it is, will eventually be destroyed by this "lake of fire" forever. At some point when God sees fit?
 
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Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

I think the same Wild. And this is new to me since yesterday. It's not God punishing sinners, it's just there's no other place for them but hell, the place of the enemy of God.


 
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stonesoffire said:
Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

I think the same Wild. And this is new to me since yesterday. It's not God punishing sinners, it's just there's no other place for them but hell, the place of the enemy of God.
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Much obliged. Thank you for the verses.
 
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Wild said:
Would you agree that Hell, whatever it is, will eventually be destroyed by this "lake of fire" forever. At some point when God sees fit?
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What ever God does with it He does...
 
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I don't need it spelled out to know who did
 
maxwel

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stonesoffire said:
I see hell now as satans twisted version of a kingdom that he rules. And this will be destroyed in the final end by the lake of fire.
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1. You are free to "see" hell any way you choose... but that has no effect on what scripture actually says.

2. Biblically, hell is prepared FOR the devil and his angels... not prepared BY the devil and his angels... it's not a place over which his has some kind of control.
So it clearly isn't a place Satan created, or a place which Satan is going to find particularly enjoyable.

3. Biblically, hell is never referred to as any kind of "kingdom".

4. Biblically, hell is not a place which is CURRENTLY holding Satan... so it's not even a place he's in right now.
It can't be something he rules if he isn't even there.

5. Final note: the word "prepare" denotes an act of will and volition... showing hell is a place God INTENTIONALLY created... not some kind of accident.
Hell, according to scripture, cannot be some accidental natural result of something else... as the OP tries to show.
Hell is an intentional and volitional creation of God.
 
stonesoffire

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What this revelation has accomplished for me is to give my witness to others with more substance of proof that God loves us all; wants the best for His creation, and did everything possible that He could for ALL of mankind to be able to live with Him.

It takes away any argument or accusation that the enemy can use through men towards God.

And Jonteel, I bless you for coming here to give what you were given despite the resistance that rose up.
 
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stonesoffire said:
He created everything perfect. Is hell perfect?
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Yes hell is perfect according to Gods Will and purpose.

We will allow God to be everything except Sovereign. We dont like the fact that in His perfect Sovereingty He has a place prepared for those who wont follow Him. We love the "loving God" but we dont love the "just God" who in His Sovereingty has prepared a place away from His love, comfort and grace for those who do not give their lives to Him.

Basically we are not willing to allow God to be God in His Sovereingty because we dont "like" certain truths.
 
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