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Joseph Prince's devotions are posted 2-3 times a week, & every time someone disagrees, they're degraded for it.
 
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sadly, some think this is bashing,, If you question their belief system you are bashing them.
If you have a issue with a person why go around and speak of it in other threads but not the person in that thread it's pure ignorance. Just speak your mind on that thread and just leave it there, there is no need to go around a bashing folks in another thread.
 
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Also, have you noticed that several people have stated that I called Joseph Prince a heretic in my posts?

READ THEM..... I never said that..... yet.
 
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Joseph Prince's devotions are posted 2-3 times a week, & every time someone disagrees, they're degraded for it.

You want to disagree with the content, No one would say a word, Thats not what you are doing..
 
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If you have a issue with a person why go around and speak of it in other threads but not the person in that thread it's pure ignorance. Just speak your mind on that thread and just leave it there, there is no need to go around a bashing folks in another thread.

I did not see her bash anyone. So whats your point?
 
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You want to disagree with the content, No one would say a word, Thats not what you are doing..

I agree. I don't agree with everything that is in any devotional but when others start to attack and accuse the OP of things because of malice, and slandering them - then that's when the line has been crossed.

The whole purpose of the devotionals is for people to rely, trust and have faith that God is good ( this goes against some religious teachings that say otherwise) and that we can trust in Him for everything in our lives
because of Jesus and what He has already done for us.
 
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I agree. I don't agree with everything that is in any devotional but when others start to attack and accuse the OP of things because of malice, and slandering them - then that's when the line has been crossed.

The whole purpose of the devotionals is for people to rely, trust and have faith that God is good ( this goes against some religious teachings that say otherwise) and that we can trust in Him for everything in our lives
because of Jesus and what He has already done for us.
Who accused the author of this thread?

WHO???
 
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[video=youtube;VcHo-FIp7eE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcHo-FIp7eE[/video]


  • Who is the Benjamin Generation?
  • WHO is Mother Grace???
 
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Speaking to the OP:

1. Prince says God puts His laws in his mind, then says all of jesus' teachings before the cross are null & void 'cause they're OT.

That means John 3:16 is OT.

All of His parables are OT

Plus, there's the problem with the word "laws". What laws? Radical Grace folks don't believe in obeying "laws". They believe in Christ & that Christ did everything, so "obedience to laws" is for the legalists & works salvationist people.

2. How many radical grace folks are now outta poverty? All bills paid off? Now in a new home? WOF is a lie of Satan.

What are your current miracles? If Prince's devotional is true, Radical grace miracles should abound. Where are they?

How did Prince get "miracles" and "healing"out of "I will be their God"?

Didn't he just say what he wanted?

3. How come the Radical gracers don't agree on everything? How come they don't know everything?

 
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[video=youtube;VcHo-FIp7eE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcHo-FIp7eE[/video]


  • Who is the Benjamin Generation?
  • WHO is Mother Grace???
what does this have to do with the OP??

Can anyone explain?
 
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That TBN show clip was just an analogy showing that we are from Mount Zion where grace comes to us and not from Mount Sinai where the law was given. It is referring to the two different covenants.

It's from Gal. 4. He does not say that grace is our real "Mother" - nor does he capitalize "Mother" in this deceitful way to make it seem to be something that it isn't. It is just a passing mention.. For people in their malice to slander a minister of the gospel for this is shameful.

Galatians 4:24-26 (NASB)
[SUP]24 [/SUP] This is allegorically speaking, for these women are two covenants: one proceeding from Mount Sinai bearing children who are to be slaves; she is Hagar.

[SUP]25 [/SUP] Now this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children.

[SUP]26 [/SUP] But the Jerusalem above is free; she is our mother.
 
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what does this have to do with the OP??

Can anyone explain?
"Some" in here think JP is okay & has just a little theology problem, & have even said so.

So I'm offering up a boatload of things he's totally wrong about.
 
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what does this have to do with the OP??

Can anyone explain?

Just ignore this like Paul says to do.

Romans 16:17 (KJV)
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Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

Things like this can turn into situations like Hebrews.

Hebrews 12:15 (NASB)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] See to it that no one comes short of the grace of God; that no root of bitterness springing up causes trouble, and by it many be defiled;
 
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That TBN show clip was just an analogy showing that we are from Mount Zion where grace comes to us and not from Mount Sinai where the law was given. It is referring to the two different covenants.

It's from Gal. 4. He does not say that grace is our real "Mother" - nor does he capitalize "Mother" in this deceitful way to make it seem to be something that it isn't. For people in their malice to slander a minister of the gospel for this is shameful.

Galatians 4:24-26 (NASB)
[SUP]24 [/SUP] This is allegorically speaking, for these women are two covenants: one proceeding from Mount Sinai bearing children who are to be slaves; she is Hagar.

[SUP]25 [/SUP] Now this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children.

[SUP]26 [/SUP] But the Jerusalem above is free; she is our mother.
People don't go on TV & make special mention of something unless they're pushing it.
"Mother Grace" wasn't a slip of the tongue.

Please don't cover for your champion..... it looks unprofessional.
:rolleyes:
 
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"Some" in here think JP is okay & has just a little theology problem, & have even said so.

So I'm offering up a boatload of things he's totally wrong about.
whats that have to do with the OP?
 
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“When we understand this verse [I John 1:7], we realize that even when we sin, we sin in the realm of light! So, if we sin in the light, we are cleansed in the light, and we are kept in the light. This idea of us going into darkness when we sin is not from the Bible.
Chapter 9, page 108

Why do I need to say anything when I can quote the author from his own book?!?

 
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If we are not sinning while we are in the light - then why does the blood of Jesus cleanse us from all sin? Christians can commit works of darkness but a man can act like a monkey but it doesn't make them a monkey. When they awake to who they really are - the works of darkness falls off us like dead leaves on a tree.

1 John 1:7 (NASB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.

Jesus is clear that those who belong to Him, will not walk in darkness because He is the Light and we are in Him and called children of light now. John 8:12
 
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Sometimes we think some truths are new but in reality they are not. Here is someone back in the 1800's that had a supposedly "heretical" understanding of grace in the form of our sins being forgiven and those sins were continually being washed by the blood of Jesus.

I was reading this morning about a hymn writer from the 1800's called Frances Ridley Havergal. She wrote many hymns and knew Latin, French, German, Greek and Hebrew.

She also knew by heart the 4 gospels, epistles and the book of Revelation by the time she was 23 years old - yet she still lived in total defeat.
She thought she had "great wickedness in her heart" - because of religious traditions taught to her.

It wasn't until she was reading in the Greek that the present tense was used for 1 John 1:7
"...His blood cleanseth us from all sin".

She realized all her sins were forgiven and cleansed by the blood of Jesus and thus she believed it and experienced peace and joy in her life because of this truth.

Here is a direct QUOTE:

" Have we not been limiting 1 John 1:7 , by practically making it refer only to "remission of sins that are past" instead of taking the grand simplicity of "cleanseth from all sin"?

"All" is all; and as we may trust Him to cleanse us from the stain of past sins so we may trust Him to cleanse us from all present defilement; yes, all!

By refusing to take 1 John 1:7 in it's fullness, we will lose the fullness of it's application and power in our lives. It goes on cleansing , and I have no words to tell how my heart rejoices in it."

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She got the revelation that all her sins were forgiven because she was in Christ and in the Light and His blood continually cleansed her. She was able to walk free in Christ from that point on. Today she would be called a heretic and being in error by some for having this belief.

Believing the true gospel will change us as we grow in His grace.

Source: Jennie Chappell, "Women Who Have Worked and Won: the life story of Mrs. Spurgeon, Mrs. Booth-Tucker, F.R. Havergal, and Ramabai," London: S.W. Partridge & Co. Ltd. 1904