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Zec 14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
Zec 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Zec 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
Zec 14:5 and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
Joe 3:1 For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem,
Joe 3:2 I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.
Joe 3:9 Proclaim ye this among the Gentiles; Prepare war, wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up:
Joe 3:10 Beat your plowshares into swords, and your pruninghooks into spears: let the weak say, I am strong.
Joe 3:11 Assemble yourselves, and come, all ye heathen, and gather yourselves together round about:
thither cause thy mighty ones to come down, O LORD.
Joe 3:14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision.
Joe 3:15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.
Joe 3:16 The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the LORD will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel.
The first attack on Jerusalem,because they rejected Christ,so God allowed the Roman Empire to go against them,and scatter them in to nations,and did not fight against the Roman Empire.
The second attack on Jerusalem,because they accepted Christ,so the beast and the world attacks Israel,and Jesus comes with all the saints,and saves Israel,and defeats the world.
Israel is blinded in part,until salvation is no longer available to the Gentiles,then they will no longer be blinded,but as a nation accept Jesus,and so all Israel shall be saved.
Revelation 19 goes along with that.The saints are in heaven with Jesus,and He comes back with all the saints,and saves Israel,and defeats the world.
That could of not happened in the first century,for God was allowing Israel to be punished for rejecting Christ.
But in the future they come to the truth,and then God will fight on their side like in the day of battle.
Jesus said,the Jews will not see Him again,until they say blessed is He that comes in the name of the Lord,and in the future they will do that,and Jesus will save them.
Zec 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Zec 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
Zec 14:5 and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
Joe 3:1 For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem,
Joe 3:2 I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.
Joe 3:9 Proclaim ye this among the Gentiles; Prepare war, wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up:
Joe 3:10 Beat your plowshares into swords, and your pruninghooks into spears: let the weak say, I am strong.
Joe 3:11 Assemble yourselves, and come, all ye heathen, and gather yourselves together round about:
thither cause thy mighty ones to come down, O LORD.
Joe 3:14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision.
Joe 3:15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.
Joe 3:16 The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the LORD will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel.
The first attack on Jerusalem,because they rejected Christ,so God allowed the Roman Empire to go against them,and scatter them in to nations,and did not fight against the Roman Empire.
The second attack on Jerusalem,because they accepted Christ,so the beast and the world attacks Israel,and Jesus comes with all the saints,and saves Israel,and defeats the world.
Israel is blinded in part,until salvation is no longer available to the Gentiles,then they will no longer be blinded,but as a nation accept Jesus,and so all Israel shall be saved.
Revelation 19 goes along with that.The saints are in heaven with Jesus,and He comes back with all the saints,and saves Israel,and defeats the world.
That could of not happened in the first century,for God was allowing Israel to be punished for rejecting Christ.
But in the future they come to the truth,and then God will fight on their side like in the day of battle.
Jesus said,the Jews will not see Him again,until they say blessed is He that comes in the name of the Lord,and in the future they will do that,and Jesus will save them.
Grow up, increase, be risen, triumph.
Dont fall asleep.
Hi Living stone on fire of God, It's nice to see sober mined uplifting view, saw your name was already looking forward to something good to read. "I watch and am as a sparrow alone upon the house top." Makes me think of the verse, "Let him that is upon the housetop not come down to take anything out of His house." Understood the housetop, as the place of prayer. The verse you mention brings meaning to the danger of taking things in our hands: watching alone, loneliness and unfulfilled expectations, temptation. There will be a falling away before the end. Like when others try to control us and we forget to pray and try to defend ourselves, was confronted yesterday as well. It's sobering to see someone turn against you because they cant control you and are afraid. Made me think of the verse, "beware of men, for they will deliver you up to be afflicted." It's in times of afflictions that we are tempted to return back to old clothes and forget it God's house we are in: not to fall backwards and be taken. "One shall be taken and one shall be left." Left standing I hope. "Pray that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass and to stand before the son of Man." Sadly many don't see that we can be cough up to God where we are , rather tan cough up with cares of this life and expect to be taken out of the world when the trouble comes. "Behold I am with you always even to the end of the world." I pray not that you take them out of the world but that you would keep them from the evil." could go on and on seriously, but I'm not serious, I'm Ernest.
Dont fall asleep.
Hi Living stone on fire of God, It's nice to see sober mined uplifting view, saw your name was already looking forward to something good to read. "I watch and am as a sparrow alone upon the house top." Makes me think of the verse, "Let him that is upon the housetop not come down to take anything out of His house." Understood the housetop, as the place of prayer. The verse you mention brings meaning to the danger of taking things in our hands: watching alone, loneliness and unfulfilled expectations, temptation. There will be a falling away before the end. Like when others try to control us and we forget to pray and try to defend ourselves, was confronted yesterday as well. It's sobering to see someone turn against you because they cant control you and are afraid. Made me think of the verse, "beware of men, for they will deliver you up to be afflicted." It's in times of afflictions that we are tempted to return back to old clothes and forget it God's house we are in: not to fall backwards and be taken. "One shall be taken and one shall be left." Left standing I hope. "Pray that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass and to stand before the son of Man." Sadly many don't see that we can be cough up to God where we are , rather tan cough up with cares of this life and expect to be taken out of the world when the trouble comes. "Behold I am with you always even to the end of the world." I pray not that you take them out of the world but that you would keep them from the evil." could go on and on seriously, but I'm not serious, I'm Ernest.
Not from me but believe it's of the Lord and to the point of discussion.
The following is an end-time vision given to an established, seasoned minister of the gospel, Dr. Mark Barclay, and told in his own words. My heart was quickened when I read it and I thought: "This vision needs to be circulated to the body of Christ worldwide for we are seeing the increasing effects of it being unfolded in this hour, although it was given more than 25 years ago."
If you are skeptical of these things I would encourage you to listen to your heart as you read it and allow the Holy Spirit to bear witness with you.
"But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things. ... But the anointing which you have received from Him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. For as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and just as it has taught you, remain in Him" (1 John 2:20, 27)
Here then is the vision told in the minister's own words:
"In 1987 I was a speaker at a camp meeting in Tulsa, Oklahoma. I spoke during the Thursday evening service. Dr. Kenneth E. Hagin spoke during the Friday evening service. I remember that I had just flown in from meetings in Paris, France. I mentioned to my wife how much I would like to stay and hear Dr. Hagin speak. She agreed.
As Dr. Hagin entered the pulpit, he began to pray in tongues. When he started, I started. A moment later, I was caught up in a vision (I was told later that it was probably more like a trance). As I went into this vision, I remember how Dr. Hagin's voice was getting quieter and quieter, until I could hear him no more. It was so quiet all around me I felt like I could hear my own heartbeat.
All of a sudden I felt evil, as if it were surrounding me. Anger rose up in me, and fear tried to get a grip on me. Suddenly, something caught my attention out of my left eye. I turned hard to the left to see what it was. I saw the circumference of the earth, from one edge to the other, and this horrible black, dark cloud was rising up over the horizon. Somehow I knew it would eventually fill the entire earth.
An alarm went off in me, screaming to me to run away from it as fast as I could. I felt like I should scream at it, to stop it in its tracks by using the name of Jesus. I began to rebuke it and started to say, "In the name of Jesus ... " I didn't quite get it out, and the Lord said, "That will do you no good."
"What?" I said.
The Lord said, "Son, you cannot use My name to stop what I prophesied. I am not causing this dark cloud, but I did prophesy it would happen in the last days."
I remember in the vision that I asked the Lord "What is this? What is this evil, tempestuous, dark cloud?"
The Lord said, "This is what I showed My prophet, Isaiah (Isa. 60:1-2). This is every evil thing you can name. It is every demon, it is every disease, it is sickness and bacterial attacks that haven't even been discovered yet. It will cause humans to do things to humans that aren't even human. It is filled with insanity, and many people will lose their mind and their faculties. It is murder, terror, rape, abuse, terrorism, torture and much worse. It is filled with deceptions, heresies, perversions and filth."
Some things the Lord showed me I have not had permission to speak.
I also saw people—many, many people. Some were running into the dark cloud, and some were being sucked into it. It reminded me of this very powerful Shop-vac I have. It will not only suck up the dirt but also my tools, if I don't pay attention.
I saw may people screaming with terror and actually being dragged into this cloud. Though they were refusing it and resisting it with all their strength, they still did not possess the power to stop it.
I was so disturbed when I saw a cross on someone's pocket or jewelry. I remember saying to the Lord, "Who are those people being drawn into this filth and terror, wearing the Christian symbol of the cross? Who are these people, not even resisting? And who are these people, resisting with all their might but it does them no good? They just keep disappearing into this horrible, evil cloud of gross darkness."
The Lord answered me and said, "Oh, these are those who do not have clean hands and a pure heart. They have been warned but ignored the warnings. Some even wanted this filth as their lifestyle."
I asked, "Well, who are these wearing the cross?"
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"Oh," the Lord said, "These are the people who claim Me as Savior. Many of them have desired this filth and even fought for it. They make excuses but are not excused. The ones who are resisting thought My prophets were exaggerating and from the old school, and they denied the warnings. Now that this evil has come, they possess little to no power, and certainly not enough to resist and overcome this horrible onslaught of enemy power. Only those with clean hands and a pure heart will be able to totally resist this. It will cover the earth."
There was much more to this, but I began to come out of the vision and once again heard Brother Hagin speaking in tongues from the pulpit.
I asked my wife what had happened, and she said, "Nothing, he hasn't done anything but pray in the spirit."
I began to realize that nobody seemed to see this vision or get caught up into this trance but me. I held my wife's hand a little tighter and began to pray fervently in the spirit. As I did, I got caught up in the spirit again.
Just like before, Brother Hagin's voice got quieter and quieter until it was gone. I found myself alone again. It was so quiet I could hear my own heartbeat. Suddenly, a piercing light hit the corner of my right eye. It was so bright that I instantly shrouded my head with my hands and arms. It reminded me of the intense light that my optometrist uses to examine the back of my eyes. Actually, it was much brighter than that.
Everything within me said, "Turn and look into it. Turn now, and run into it." Yet there was this hesitation because it was so bright it seemed to shine through me. Finally I gave in to it and looked directly at it. With both eyes I saw the depth of this bright cloud. Just like the dark cloud I had seen before, it was coming up over the horizon of the earth. I could tell that it was going to cover the planet. I just knew that I knew that nothing could stop it.
I remembered asking the Lord, "What is this? What is this massive, earth-consuming, bright cloud?"
The Lord answered me and said, "Oh, this is My glory. This is the glory cloud that I showed My prophet Isaiah (Isa. 61:1-2). This is what I promised, that My glory will fill the whole earth."
"Well," I asked, "what is inside the cloud?"
"It is filled with the greatest miracles humans have ever seen. It is filled with healing for every disease, and a cure for every sickness. It is power to overcome sin and filth—to receive the truth and reject error, heresy and doctrines of demons. It is a full manifestation of My Spirit. It is the full anointing of Jesus Christ and more, much more."
He showed me other things that I have no permission to speak at this time.
I saw people in this vision, just like before with the cloud of darkness. Many, many people were running into it and almost frolicking in it. It was like my first response—too bright to behold, and then I wanted to run into it. There were those who seemed to want to pull away from this glory cloud.
"Lord, who will enter into this great glory of God and enjoy this awesome power?" I asked.
"Those who have a pure heart and clean hands," the Lord answered. "They are the ones who will escape the horrible vacuum of the evil, dark cloud and be consumed with My glory. I will require you to tell these things to My people at an appointed time."
Now is that time! As I travel the world over, I see both of these manifestations happening. In fact, I see them beginning to intensify. Sometimes I say that both God and Satan are having a revival among men. We will now see more and more people running to each cloud, causing a great gulf or divide. Could this be the separation of sheep and goats, or the separation of wheat and tares?
I am not a conspiracy-theory person. I am not a fear-based preacher. I am not a prophet of doom. So what I am about to say is none of these. But, I am actually witnessing the spirits of the Antichrist, prepping the people of the earth (including many church goers) for the arrival of the Antichrist himself. I see demons (spirits of the Antichrist) going throughout all the earth. They are slowly re-programming the minds of men (doctrines of demons) to systematically disassemble the work of Christ and disengage the army of God.
You can avoid this, if you choose. If you choose not to, you will suffer the consequences. Please don't do that!" —Dr. Mark Barclay (marktbarclay.com
The following is an end-time vision given to an established, seasoned minister of the gospel, Dr. Mark Barclay, and told in his own words. My heart was quickened when I read it and I thought: "This vision needs to be circulated to the body of Christ worldwide for we are seeing the increasing effects of it being unfolded in this hour, although it was given more than 25 years ago."
If you are skeptical of these things I would encourage you to listen to your heart as you read it and allow the Holy Spirit to bear witness with you.
"But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things. ... But the anointing which you have received from Him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. For as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and just as it has taught you, remain in Him" (1 John 2:20, 27)
Here then is the vision told in the minister's own words:
"In 1987 I was a speaker at a camp meeting in Tulsa, Oklahoma. I spoke during the Thursday evening service. Dr. Kenneth E. Hagin spoke during the Friday evening service. I remember that I had just flown in from meetings in Paris, France. I mentioned to my wife how much I would like to stay and hear Dr. Hagin speak. She agreed.
As Dr. Hagin entered the pulpit, he began to pray in tongues. When he started, I started. A moment later, I was caught up in a vision (I was told later that it was probably more like a trance). As I went into this vision, I remember how Dr. Hagin's voice was getting quieter and quieter, until I could hear him no more. It was so quiet all around me I felt like I could hear my own heartbeat.
All of a sudden I felt evil, as if it were surrounding me. Anger rose up in me, and fear tried to get a grip on me. Suddenly, something caught my attention out of my left eye. I turned hard to the left to see what it was. I saw the circumference of the earth, from one edge to the other, and this horrible black, dark cloud was rising up over the horizon. Somehow I knew it would eventually fill the entire earth.
An alarm went off in me, screaming to me to run away from it as fast as I could. I felt like I should scream at it, to stop it in its tracks by using the name of Jesus. I began to rebuke it and started to say, "In the name of Jesus ... " I didn't quite get it out, and the Lord said, "That will do you no good."
"What?" I said.
The Lord said, "Son, you cannot use My name to stop what I prophesied. I am not causing this dark cloud, but I did prophesy it would happen in the last days."
I remember in the vision that I asked the Lord "What is this? What is this evil, tempestuous, dark cloud?"
The Lord said, "This is what I showed My prophet, Isaiah (Isa. 60:1-2). This is every evil thing you can name. It is every demon, it is every disease, it is sickness and bacterial attacks that haven't even been discovered yet. It will cause humans to do things to humans that aren't even human. It is filled with insanity, and many people will lose their mind and their faculties. It is murder, terror, rape, abuse, terrorism, torture and much worse. It is filled with deceptions, heresies, perversions and filth."
Some things the Lord showed me I have not had permission to speak.
I also saw people—many, many people. Some were running into the dark cloud, and some were being sucked into it. It reminded me of this very powerful Shop-vac I have. It will not only suck up the dirt but also my tools, if I don't pay attention.
I saw may people screaming with terror and actually being dragged into this cloud. Though they were refusing it and resisting it with all their strength, they still did not possess the power to stop it.
I was so disturbed when I saw a cross on someone's pocket or jewelry. I remember saying to the Lord, "Who are those people being drawn into this filth and terror, wearing the Christian symbol of the cross? Who are these people, not even resisting? And who are these people, resisting with all their might but it does them no good? They just keep disappearing into this horrible, evil cloud of gross darkness."
The Lord answered me and said, "Oh, these are those who do not have clean hands and a pure heart. They have been warned but ignored the warnings. Some even wanted this filth as their lifestyle."
I asked, "Well, who are these wearing the cross?"
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"Oh," the Lord said, "These are the people who claim Me as Savior. Many of them have desired this filth and even fought for it. They make excuses but are not excused. The ones who are resisting thought My prophets were exaggerating and from the old school, and they denied the warnings. Now that this evil has come, they possess little to no power, and certainly not enough to resist and overcome this horrible onslaught of enemy power. Only those with clean hands and a pure heart will be able to totally resist this. It will cover the earth."
There was much more to this, but I began to come out of the vision and once again heard Brother Hagin speaking in tongues from the pulpit.
I asked my wife what had happened, and she said, "Nothing, he hasn't done anything but pray in the spirit."
I began to realize that nobody seemed to see this vision or get caught up into this trance but me. I held my wife's hand a little tighter and began to pray fervently in the spirit. As I did, I got caught up in the spirit again.
Just like before, Brother Hagin's voice got quieter and quieter until it was gone. I found myself alone again. It was so quiet I could hear my own heartbeat. Suddenly, a piercing light hit the corner of my right eye. It was so bright that I instantly shrouded my head with my hands and arms. It reminded me of the intense light that my optometrist uses to examine the back of my eyes. Actually, it was much brighter than that.
Everything within me said, "Turn and look into it. Turn now, and run into it." Yet there was this hesitation because it was so bright it seemed to shine through me. Finally I gave in to it and looked directly at it. With both eyes I saw the depth of this bright cloud. Just like the dark cloud I had seen before, it was coming up over the horizon of the earth. I could tell that it was going to cover the planet. I just knew that I knew that nothing could stop it.
I remembered asking the Lord, "What is this? What is this massive, earth-consuming, bright cloud?"
The Lord answered me and said, "Oh, this is My glory. This is the glory cloud that I showed My prophet Isaiah (Isa. 61:1-2). This is what I promised, that My glory will fill the whole earth."
"Well," I asked, "what is inside the cloud?"
"It is filled with the greatest miracles humans have ever seen. It is filled with healing for every disease, and a cure for every sickness. It is power to overcome sin and filth—to receive the truth and reject error, heresy and doctrines of demons. It is a full manifestation of My Spirit. It is the full anointing of Jesus Christ and more, much more."
He showed me other things that I have no permission to speak at this time.
I saw people in this vision, just like before with the cloud of darkness. Many, many people were running into it and almost frolicking in it. It was like my first response—too bright to behold, and then I wanted to run into it. There were those who seemed to want to pull away from this glory cloud.
"Lord, who will enter into this great glory of God and enjoy this awesome power?" I asked.
"Those who have a pure heart and clean hands," the Lord answered. "They are the ones who will escape the horrible vacuum of the evil, dark cloud and be consumed with My glory. I will require you to tell these things to My people at an appointed time."
Now is that time! As I travel the world over, I see both of these manifestations happening. In fact, I see them beginning to intensify. Sometimes I say that both God and Satan are having a revival among men. We will now see more and more people running to each cloud, causing a great gulf or divide. Could this be the separation of sheep and goats, or the separation of wheat and tares?
I am not a conspiracy-theory person. I am not a fear-based preacher. I am not a prophet of doom. So what I am about to say is none of these. But, I am actually witnessing the spirits of the Antichrist, prepping the people of the earth (including many church goers) for the arrival of the Antichrist himself. I see demons (spirits of the Antichrist) going throughout all the earth. They are slowly re-programming the minds of men (doctrines of demons) to systematically disassemble the work of Christ and disengage the army of God.
You can avoid this, if you choose. If you choose not to, you will suffer the consequences. Please don't do that!" —Dr. Mark Barclay (marktbarclay.com
How many Brides does God have? According to scripture Christ has one body of believers and one Bride. If you are saved you are part of that Body and Bride. The Human Race is divided into two groups those who are saved through belief in the shed blood of Christ and those who are not saved at all. Jesus called them the Sheep and the Goats and the wheat and the tares This may sound old fashioned and even unexciting to some but it is the truth.
I believe the Rapture and the second coming happens at the same time, at the end the tribulation when the last trumpet is blown. The tribulation and persecution of the saints is carried out by Satan through the Beast. The wrath of God is poured out on unbelievers at Christs coming. It is Christ who breaks the seven seals and it is him who pours out the wrath of God. There is not one place in Scripture that plainly states that the tribulation lasts for exactly seven years this relies on scriptural interpretation alone. Jesus stated that the days would be shortened for the sake of the elect. Consider the following
scriptures
1 Thessalonians 5:2-3
For yourselves know perfectly that the day of
the Lord cometh as a thief in the night. For
when they shall say peace and safety then
sudden destruction cometh upon them as
travail upon a woman with child and they shall
not escape.
11 Peter 3:10-13
But the day of the Lord shall come as a
thief in the night in which the heavens shall
pass away with a great noise and the elements
shall melt with a fervent heat the earth also and
the works that are therein shall be burned up
seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved
what manner of persons ought ye to be in all
holy conversation and godliness? Looking for
and hasting for the coming of the day of God
wherein the heavens being on fire and shall
be dissolved and the elements will melt with
fervent heat? Nevertheless we according to
his promise look for new heavens and a new
earth wherein dwelleth righteousness.
If I said the roof of my house suddenly collapsed would this be interpreted as my roof is taking seven
years to collapse like a scene from an old Kung Fu film? When Paul says there will be sudden destruction
was he really thinking that 'sudden' meant seven years?
Peter talks about looking for a new heaven and earth. Its odd that he doesn't squeeze in a 1000 year reign in between Christs coming and a new heaven and earth in the passage. Its even stranger that Christ himself doesn't mention a literal 1000 year reign either especially when his disciples ask him when an earthly kingdom would be restored. Jesus often mentions his Kingdom in the Gospels but never once mentions a 1000 year reign on earth The only place in the bible it is mentioned is in Revelation. I will leave the reader to come to a conclusion.
I believe the Rapture and the second coming happens at the same time, at the end the tribulation when the last trumpet is blown. The tribulation and persecution of the saints is carried out by Satan through the Beast. The wrath of God is poured out on unbelievers at Christs coming. It is Christ who breaks the seven seals and it is him who pours out the wrath of God. There is not one place in Scripture that plainly states that the tribulation lasts for exactly seven years this relies on scriptural interpretation alone. Jesus stated that the days would be shortened for the sake of the elect. Consider the following
scriptures
1 Thessalonians 5:2-3
For yourselves know perfectly that the day of
the Lord cometh as a thief in the night. For
when they shall say peace and safety then
sudden destruction cometh upon them as
travail upon a woman with child and they shall
not escape.
11 Peter 3:10-13
But the day of the Lord shall come as a
thief in the night in which the heavens shall
pass away with a great noise and the elements
shall melt with a fervent heat the earth also and
the works that are therein shall be burned up
seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved
what manner of persons ought ye to be in all
holy conversation and godliness? Looking for
and hasting for the coming of the day of God
wherein the heavens being on fire and shall
be dissolved and the elements will melt with
fervent heat? Nevertheless we according to
his promise look for new heavens and a new
earth wherein dwelleth righteousness.
If I said the roof of my house suddenly collapsed would this be interpreted as my roof is taking seven
years to collapse like a scene from an old Kung Fu film? When Paul says there will be sudden destruction
was he really thinking that 'sudden' meant seven years?
Peter talks about looking for a new heaven and earth. Its odd that he doesn't squeeze in a 1000 year reign in between Christs coming and a new heaven and earth in the passage. Its even stranger that Christ himself doesn't mention a literal 1000 year reign either especially when his disciples ask him when an earthly kingdom would be restored. Jesus often mentions his Kingdom in the Gospels but never once mentions a 1000 year reign on earth The only place in the bible it is mentioned is in Revelation. I will leave the reader to come to a conclusion.
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Tanakh, the 5th trumpet, which is apart of God's wrath, is by itself five months in length.
"They were not allowed to kill them but only to torture them for five months."
"They had tails with stingers, like scorpions, and in their tails they had power to torment people for five months."
The two witnesses are said to prophecy for 1260 days, which takes place during the first 3 1/2 years of the seven year period and they bring every kind of plague that they want, as often as they want and this at God's doing, not Satan's.
"And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.”
The beast is given authority over the great tribulation saints for 42 months, which is also referring to the last 3 1/2 years of that seven year period.
"also know that at the sounding of the seventh trumpet that the woman flees into the desert where she is cared for 1260 days, which is the last 3 1/2 years of Daniel's seven year period."
The word "Apokalupsis" translated as "Revelation" is defined as "an unveiling, uncovering, revealing, revelation."
There is information in Revelation that was hidden and is being revealed in this book that is not revealed anywhere else in scripture. Therefore, just because something is not mentioned anywhere else but Revelation, it would fit the definition of the word.
In regards to the resurrection, the OT testament prophets and the people new that the resurrection of the dead would take place. But no one knew about the living in Christ being changed and caught up until Paul revealed it as a mystery. Just because something is not mentioned elsewhere in scripture does not mean that it isn't true. Therefore, since the 1000 years is mentioned in Revelation, six times I might add, it was information that was previously hidden until it was revealed in Revelation.
"They were not allowed to kill them but only to torture them for five months."
"They had tails with stingers, like scorpions, and in their tails they had power to torment people for five months."
The two witnesses are said to prophecy for 1260 days, which takes place during the first 3 1/2 years of the seven year period and they bring every kind of plague that they want, as often as they want and this at God's doing, not Satan's.
"And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.”
The beast is given authority over the great tribulation saints for 42 months, which is also referring to the last 3 1/2 years of that seven year period.
"also know that at the sounding of the seventh trumpet that the woman flees into the desert where she is cared for 1260 days, which is the last 3 1/2 years of Daniel's seven year period."
The word "Apokalupsis" translated as "Revelation" is defined as "an unveiling, uncovering, revealing, revelation."
There is information in Revelation that was hidden and is being revealed in this book that is not revealed anywhere else in scripture. Therefore, just because something is not mentioned anywhere else but Revelation, it would fit the definition of the word.
In regards to the resurrection, the OT testament prophets and the people new that the resurrection of the dead would take place. But no one knew about the living in Christ being changed and caught up until Paul revealed it as a mystery. Just because something is not mentioned elsewhere in scripture does not mean that it isn't true. Therefore, since the 1000 years is mentioned in Revelation, six times I might add, it was information that was previously hidden until it was revealed in Revelation.
This is like saying....I never went to Nautical and Nuclear Engineering school, but I have built a complete nuclear submarine from schematics and blue prints....and all by myself...
We all learn things from the scriptures and the Holy Spirit and other people....I do not know how one and with the help of the Holy Spirit, comes to the knowledge there is a super secret escape pod, call the rapture in the Bible...
We all learn things from the scriptures and the Holy Spirit and other people....I do not know how one and with the help of the Holy Spirit, comes to the knowledge there is a super secret escape pod, call the rapture in the Bible...
You do know you are endorsing a well know tax cheat, fraudster, forger,drunk and emotional, physical abuser of women and and children, and a man who abandoned his first wife and kids and left them to starve...he was forced to resign and could not serve in public office because of all his scandals...the only insight to the scriptures were his motivation make money...
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Many people read into Scripture what is not there to prove what they want to be true.
They change the meaning of words.
Give their own "Interpretation" to Scripture.
They judge other as not studying as much as they do.
They believe their knowledge and understanding exceeds all others.
They have deceived themselves into believing they are the final authority on Scripture.
Shall I continue?
They change the meaning of words.
Give their own "Interpretation" to Scripture.
They judge other as not studying as much as they do.
They believe their knowledge and understanding exceeds all others.
They have deceived themselves into believing they are the final authority on Scripture.
Shall I continue?
adding the other verses help us understand what it is really saying, not what you are making it say...
[SUP]13 [/SUP]But we do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope. [SUP]14 [/SUP]For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus. [SUP]15 [/SUP]For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. [SUP]16 [/SUP]For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. [SUP]17 [/SUP]Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. [SUP]18 [/SUP]Therefore comfort one another with these words.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]But we do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope. [SUP]14 [/SUP]For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus. [SUP]15 [/SUP]For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. [SUP]16 [/SUP]For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. [SUP]17 [/SUP]Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. [SUP]18 [/SUP]Therefore comfort one another with these words.
The Gentile church is not the bride and has never been the bride...The bride has and always will be the Jewish People[if you read Hosea, it shows you this] The Gentile church are the virigins...and a chaste virgin is not a bride...
Psalm 45.13-15 also prophesies this...
The King’s daughter is all glorious within;
Her clothing is interwoven with gold.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]She will be led to the King in embroidered work;
The virgins, her companions who follow her,
Will be brought to You.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]They will be led forth with gladness and rejoicing;
They will enter into the King’s palace.
Psalm 45.13-15 also prophesies this...
The King’s daughter is all glorious within;
Her clothing is interwoven with gold.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]She will be led to the King in embroidered work;
The virgins, her companions who follow her,
Will be brought to You.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]They will be led forth with gladness and rejoicing;
They will enter into the King’s palace.
