How do dinosaurs fit into the Creaton story?
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I am sorry if you think my response was arrogant. It is just that the thread was drawing sich rapid fire; being an old man, it was hard to keep up. I started my Christianity believing many things that I have since changed my stance. You say the age of the earth is not important to salvation, I disagree. All the Bible is profitable for instruction.
We are living in an age of enlightenment. There are many ready to disprove the Word of God at any cost. In our defense of the Word, we need to be open. The main reason, for us to get this right, is to understand what the Lord is coming back for. It will help to discern the scriptures properly. Today, with our computers, is what God said would happen in the last days. Daniel 12:4: “But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.”
We are living in exciting times. Our generation will see the two witnesses prophets and the times of the end of the age. Christianity was hijacked before the middle ages by Constantine and the RCC. Since then, many false teachings have been introduced. It is time to unlock the sealed prophecies referred to in Daniel 12.
We are living in an age of enlightenment. There are many ready to disprove the Word of God at any cost. In our defense of the Word, we need to be open. The main reason, for us to get this right, is to understand what the Lord is coming back for. It will help to discern the scriptures properly. Today, with our computers, is what God said would happen in the last days. Daniel 12:4: “But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.”
We are living in exciting times. Our generation will see the two witnesses prophets and the times of the end of the age. Christianity was hijacked before the middle ages by Constantine and the RCC. Since then, many false teachings have been introduced. It is time to unlock the sealed prophecies referred to in Daniel 12.
If I draw a wampire, does it prove people in the 21st century lived with wampires?
We must stop considering ancient art to be a documentary.
I am afraid what some civilization living 1000 years after us will make of all holywood movies... That we were attacked by aliens several times etc. And I hope they will not discover any comics.
We must stop considering ancient art to be a documentary.
I am afraid what some civilization living 1000 years after us will make of all holywood movies... That we were attacked by aliens several times etc. And I hope they will not discover any comics.
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Near Dinosaur Valley State Park, in the limestone deposits along the Paluxy River, "twin sets" tracks were found in the Glen Rose Formation as early as 1908. These footprints were once thought to be evidence that humans and non-avian dinosaurs lived at the same time, but now are identified to be created by dinosaurs. Biologist Massimo Pigliucci has noted that geologists in the 1980s "clearly demonstrated that no human being left those prints," but rather "they were in fact metatarsal dinosaur tracks, together with a few pure and simple fakes."
The family of George Adams, who claimed to have found human footprints in the Glen Rose Formation, later admitted that Adams' and some others' fossil footprints were a hoax.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaur_Valley_State_Park
how did layers of different kinds of rock with different kinds of fossils form all over the world, with smaller invertebrates in the lower parts and then bony fish and then vertebrates, different kinds of dinosaurs etc and finally mammals in their own layers?
i.e. why strata with characteristic creatures to make it look like a record of eras, with volcanic ash separating them, instead of all kinds of all creatures all mixed up in one big flood layer?
i.e. why strata with characteristic creatures to make it look like a record of eras, with volcanic ash separating them, instead of all kinds of all creatures all mixed up in one big flood layer?
To better understand what the Bible really says, about the age of the earth, we must critically inspect the translation accuracy of our modern Bibles. “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: And there was light” (Genesis 1:1-3). The Hebrew word hâyâh translated to the first "was" in Genesis 1:2, can just as easily mean "became." Verse one is a general statement that depicts the creation: A perfect and complete work at the very time it was done. God would not create an uneven, disorderly world. In verse two, we could say that, somehow, the earth "became" without form and void. Translated from the Hebrew, are the words for "without form" (tôhûw) and "void" (bôhûw). In their original tongue, both these words basically mean the same thing: Empty or desolate. Enter the "gap theory," which states: There could have been multiple thousands of years between the time "in the beginning," when God did the creating in Genesis 1:1; and Genesis 1:2, when the earth was (or became) empty and desolate. In essence then, the creation depicted in Genesis chapter 1, after verse 1, constitutes a re-creation. This is also called the “old earth” doctrine.
I believe in the gap theory, as it aligns with the true picture given us in other places in scripture. Satan had already fallen by the time he got to the Garden of Eden (see Ezekiel 28:12-16). Also consider the following: “And it shall come to pass in the day that the Lord shall give thee rest from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and from the hard bondage wherein thou wast made to serve, that thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, how hath the oppressor ceased! The golden city ceased! The Lord hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers. He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth. The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: They break forth into singing. Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us. Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: It stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations. All they shall speak and say unto thee, art thou also become weak as we? Art thou become like unto us? Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: The worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee. How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms; that made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners? All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house. But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet. Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: The seed of evildoers shall never be renowned” (Isaiah 14:3-20). This Lucifer, turned evil, can be none other than Satan. God was, and still is, casting Satan out of His government.
The earth became desolate through gross mismanagement. God had obviously given Satan charge over all the earth, but the devil's rebellious ways brought about a major catastrophe that made an absolute mess of the planet. God then re-created the world and removed Satan from his rulership and placed man in his stead. “And God blessed them [mankind], and God said unto them, be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: And have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth” (Genesis 1:28). The devil still rules the world system, but he now does it in an indirect way—by influencing man. God had given us the history of the world, as recorded in Genesis, only from the time that man entered into the picture. What had taken place on the earth, before this time, is not fully revealed nor relevant to what God is doing with mankind. Next up will be evolution debunked.
I believe in the gap theory, as it aligns with the true picture given us in other places in scripture. Satan had already fallen by the time he got to the Garden of Eden (see Ezekiel 28:12-16). Also consider the following: “And it shall come to pass in the day that the Lord shall give thee rest from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and from the hard bondage wherein thou wast made to serve, that thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, how hath the oppressor ceased! The golden city ceased! The Lord hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers. He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth. The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: They break forth into singing. Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us. Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: It stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations. All they shall speak and say unto thee, art thou also become weak as we? Art thou become like unto us? Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: The worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee. How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms; that made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners? All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house. But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet. Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: The seed of evildoers shall never be renowned” (Isaiah 14:3-20). This Lucifer, turned evil, can be none other than Satan. God was, and still is, casting Satan out of His government.
The earth became desolate through gross mismanagement. God had obviously given Satan charge over all the earth, but the devil's rebellious ways brought about a major catastrophe that made an absolute mess of the planet. God then re-created the world and removed Satan from his rulership and placed man in his stead. “And God blessed them [mankind], and God said unto them, be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: And have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth” (Genesis 1:28). The devil still rules the world system, but he now does it in an indirect way—by influencing man. God had given us the history of the world, as recorded in Genesis, only from the time that man entered into the picture. What had taken place on the earth, before this time, is not fully revealed nor relevant to what God is doing with mankind. Next up will be evolution debunked.
Learn about the Ica Stones - depicting dinosaurs
i've heard of these. basically one man sold thousands of them to a single archaeologist, whose father had found a handful of them previously. none of the ones originally found by the archaeologist had any extraordinary images like space ships, open heart surgery or dinosaurs, but simpler pictographs.
the man who sold thousands of them to the later archaeologist later admitted that he had faked them, carving them himself and giving them a patina to look old made out of bull poop. he said he'd used pictures from comic books to get ideas for what to carve.
if you go to Peru today you can buy all kinds of them in the tourist market.
No, they are not fake. That claim is utter nonsense. Glen J. Kuban's analyzed the Delk footprints. He thought it was a fake too but, his arguments were shallow and speculative ignoring a number of nuances about the track. For example, there are no signs of tool marks on the pint. It is absolutely impossible to create a sculpture in stone without leaving any signs of tool scarring on the stone. There were none. It has also been noted that,
"Multiple spiral CT scans have been performed on the Delk print to verify its authenticity, and over 800 X-ray images document density changes within the rock that correspond precisely with fossil footprints. Spiral CT scan technology provides an effective means of analyzing fossil footprints without physically destroying them. The CT scan allows visualization of the inside of the rock, specifically, under the footprint. These spiral CT scans prove that the Delk Print is a genuine fossil human footprint."The evidence seems to be much in favor of its authenticity."
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hâyâh
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הָיָה
hâyâh
haw-yaw'
A primitive root (compare H1933); to exist, that is, be or become, come to pass (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or auxiliary): - beacon, X altogether, be (-come, accomplished, committed, like), break, cause, come (to pass), continue, do, faint, fall, + follow, happen, X have, last, pertain, quit (one-) self, require, X use.
I have heard a funny explanation that the ones who were swimming better sank later
But yeah, they have no real answer to such a simple question.
Maybe "God did it to confuse non-believers" or something like that.
But yeah, they have no real answer to such a simple question.
Maybe "God did it to confuse non-believers" or something like that.
just like atheistic evolutionists don't really have an explanation for why all kinds of animals spontaneously started mutating into furry warm-blooded creatures at a pace that kept them ahead of a cooling climate. if it takes millions of years to evolve, but only thousands for climate and environment to change, there's kind of a problem with 'random chance' as a causative agent...
adaption has to happen before cataclysmic change, not after
my opinion is that we largely have no idea what we're talking about. what have we excavated, maybe 1% of the earth's surface? it's like we imagine we're qualified to be tourist guides for a city after we've seen a postcard of one shop on one corner.
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There would not be a mixing of things in a flood layer. We are talking a global flood. Actually what you see is what one would expect in a global flood. It would be in layers.,
explain how fossils formed over millions of years. When a fossil can only be formed by an animal being buried in sediment, the sediment hardening, and then the creature decaying so you only have a fossil.
One could say one of the greates proof of a global flood is fossilization, because that is what you would expect. You would not expect to see so many creatures fossilized at once in an area apart from some flood event.