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M
I can see that it’s going to take me some time to get used to your unusual personality.
A little bit like trading on thin ice so far.
A little bit like trading on thin ice so far.
peterT
Do you believe the Word was God?
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Do you belive God is unchanging?
Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed
Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
Do you believe God told us a beast is a kingdom?
Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon eart
So peterT if God/Word is unchanging can you show a scripture that shows where God/Word has changed? if not then why should we ignore that God/Word tells us a beast is a kingdom instead of the doctrine you espouse which falsely claims the beast is "the Antichrist"?
I can see that it’s going to take me some time to get used to your unusual personality.
A little bit like trading on thin ice so far.
A little bit like trading on thin ice so far.
Yes midwestbob does have an unusual personality.
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
But then again most peculiar people do have unusual personalities!
In Christ, 1Christianwarrior316
T
By making John's revelations about antichrist in I John 2: 18-22, 4: 3 and 2John 7 into a one man powerful political leader who is only to appear during the tribulation period the dispensattionalists have focused attention on that comic book figure. And that takes attention away from what John actually says, especially in I John 2: 18, that even in his day there were many antichrists running around and in I John 4: 3 that there is a spirit of antichrist. Applying what John actually taught makes it possible to see many individual political, religious or other leaders, many nations and many groups having the spirit of antichrist.
The Islamics operate in the spirit of antichrist, because they reject the Gospel that Jesus Christ as fully God came in man's flesh to save the lost. The Jews who are under another religion also operate in the spirit of antichrist. The Pharisees were led by the spirit of antichrist. Barry Soetoro, aka Barack Hussein Obama II, Slick Willie Clinton, Daddy and "W" Bush were all led by the spirit of antichrist. The US government is also.
The Islamics operate in the spirit of antichrist, because they reject the Gospel that Jesus Christ as fully God came in man's flesh to save the lost. The Jews who are under another religion also operate in the spirit of antichrist. The Pharisees were led by the spirit of antichrist. Barry Soetoro, aka Barack Hussein Obama II, Slick Willie Clinton, Daddy and "W" Bush were all led by the spirit of antichrist. The US government is also.
M
1Jn 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world
2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
Can you show me which of the above verses is saying in place of or instead of? Should we lean on our own understanding or on God’s word for the definition of antichrists?
While there are certainly issues with some of the doctrines Catholics hold they do not match what Scripture tells us concerning antichrists. May I suggest you look to see what faith it is that claims the number http://www.66619.org/ or http://www.66619.org/666.htm or http://www.66619.org/thequran.htm
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world
2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
Can you show me which of the above verses is saying in place of or instead of? Should we lean on our own understanding or on God’s word for the definition of antichrists?
While there are certainly issues with some of the doctrines Catholics hold they do not match what Scripture tells us concerning antichrists. May I suggest you look to see what faith it is that claims the number http://www.66619.org/ or http://www.66619.org/666.htm or http://www.66619.org/thequran.htm
its very difficult to have conversation about "antichristos",,,,,,,,,"anti-christ",,,,,,,so many people have been told that "man of sin,antichrist,wicked king,vile one,ect." are all the same person. look at the verses only from the wording,"antichrist",,,,,,,,,,the word "Christ",is not ,English,Spanish ect. it was left,"uninterpreted (Greek) ",,and the word "anti" (Greek) was then added to it (by john himself) when he used "antichristos" he was speaking (in Greek) speaking of the (Hebrew) word (Mashiach),,the anointed one,mesiah,"the one who came in the flesh and was crucified".
there are many words that for one reason or another were left in the "Greek" when the k.j.v. was interpreted.,,,,,,,,,,"baptize","antichrist",,other words "ameen"or "Amen",,,in some places are rendered "amen" and in others,,,,,"verily",,,,,"Jesus" we all know is from the (Hebrew) "yeshou/yeshouah" ect. we use it commonplace there are no "Greek word for the Hebrew yeshou" so to render it to greek it was rendered "Jesus" wich is the closest equivalent but in Greek is also two words "je orI,,,,,,my saviour is",sus,,Zeus" ,,but now we don't believe our "Savior is Zeus".but as to all this "start another thread if you like"
so back to "antichristos" or "antichrist",,,,,,,,,,,so if "is the spirit of those who don't believe that he came in the flesh" thenwe must then know what these words mean in English since they were not "translated into English in the k.j.v." because what those two words men "is the noun of the definition" that the definition "he gave" was speaking of.so they find themselves in a position were they have a "definition" so some apply it to "one single person" others to "certain religions" others to a "collective whole",,,,,,,,,,,,see they know the "definition",,,,,,,,,,,,but what of?
so as to the defense of the Muslim (I'm not Muslim,I'm christian),,,,,,,,if you research Islam, Muslim ,they do,,,,,,,,,"believe that Christ was born and came into the earth in the fleash" ,but to the Muslim he was not the messiah promised by Moses,,,,,,,he was a "good Muslim,and also a prophet like the prophets of old". and the Islamic to them he also came but also was only a prophet the same as Daniel,Issiah ect. so they "do not deny he came in the flesh",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,they deny he is the "messiah,the son of god" although there are "christian Muslims" and also Islamist that believe Christ was "the messiah" so then back up to the word he gave the definition to ,,,,,,,,,,,"Antichristos",,,,,,,,an anti-christ is some one who does not believe the ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"Christ(Greek form of mesiah/saviour) is come in the flesh",,,,,so and then add they were among those in the earth back at the cross,,,,and than more will come,as john said,,,,they were there then (the Jews that denied he was the messiah come in the flesh) at the time john wrote his books.,,,,,,,,,and after that came also (Muslims who do not believe he was the messiah come in the flesh/later),,,,,and also "any other religion that does not believe he was the Savior/messiah come in the flesh",,,,even those of whom the messiah spoke of saying "say they are of me and are not"
so now if an "person" does not see that he is the "messiah come in the flesh",they are not yet at rest from their works,,,,,,,,,the Jew looks for "another messiah",,,the Muslim looks to "Mohammad as he who was sent",they see as the "final prophet of god",,,,,which made me remember "Allah" in Arabic,,is not the "name of god",,it is the Arabic word for "god". so to translate your words you said "Allah is no god" translated to English you said ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"god(Allah/Arabic),,,, is,,,,,,,,, no,, god(English)",,or "god is no god",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i am trying to separate them,,,,,,,"in my typing",i only spoke of them so far,,,,,,,"the antichrist",,,,,i in rereading mine own post see it mat be combined,,,,,,,,,,,that is "antichrist/that mean guy that comes at the end",,,, the antichrist,,,,,,,,,,are the ones who serve the,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"mean guy",,,,,,i know i changed the words,,,,,,,,,,,suffer it for a while,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i did it to so that we do not confuse the "ruler" who will come in the end with the "spirit of antichrist" that has been in the earth since the messiah came into the earth born of the flesh,,,,,,,
"you though",,,,,,,,,,,,,you said a 'thing",,,,,,,,,,,,,,"you said,you said your body was the temple",,,i had become "sloppy",,,,me in mine old age,,,,,,,,,,i thought i was talking to them, and i was talking to you.,,,,and you are smarter than "the average bear",,,,,,,,there are the two covenants,,,one unto hager,,,and the other to Sarah and the two Yerusalem's one in haven and the other on earth. and as well as the prophecies written are to Sarah,,,,,,,,,,,also they are to Hagar. the carnal unto the carnal and the spirit unto the spirit.and if these that are "antichrist" are of "carnality",,they will do carnal things. they will build "temples" when you are the temple of god,in it's stead (in place of),,,,,,,and fight war's that are "not war's" but rumor's of war's. in the "stead" of the war's fought.,most do not know this one thing,,,,,,,,,that the scripture is of those who stood upright and the works of them,,,,,, and,,,,,,,,,,,those who did not and the works of them in the midst of them who stood upright. and they did not rightly divide the word of truth. to them it is confusion of faces,that is "they cannot discern who is of the face of god and who is of the face of confusion." they combine it all when our god told us what to do and what they would do because they do not understand.",,,,,,,,,,,,
there are many words that for one reason or another were left in the "Greek" when the k.j.v. was interpreted.,,,,,,,,,,"baptize","antichrist",,other words "ameen"or "Amen",,,in some places are rendered "amen" and in others,,,,,"verily",,,,,"Jesus" we all know is from the (Hebrew) "yeshou/yeshouah" ect. we use it commonplace there are no "Greek word for the Hebrew yeshou" so to render it to greek it was rendered "Jesus" wich is the closest equivalent but in Greek is also two words "je orI,,,,,,my saviour is",sus,,Zeus" ,,but now we don't believe our "Savior is Zeus".but as to all this "start another thread if you like"
so back to "antichristos" or "antichrist",,,,,,,,,,,so if "is the spirit of those who don't believe that he came in the flesh" thenwe must then know what these words mean in English since they were not "translated into English in the k.j.v." because what those two words men "is the noun of the definition" that the definition "he gave" was speaking of.so they find themselves in a position were they have a "definition" so some apply it to "one single person" others to "certain religions" others to a "collective whole",,,,,,,,,,,,see they know the "definition",,,,,,,,,,,,but what of?
so as to the defense of the Muslim (I'm not Muslim,I'm christian),,,,,,,,if you research Islam, Muslim ,they do,,,,,,,,,"believe that Christ was born and came into the earth in the fleash" ,but to the Muslim he was not the messiah promised by Moses,,,,,,,he was a "good Muslim,and also a prophet like the prophets of old". and the Islamic to them he also came but also was only a prophet the same as Daniel,Issiah ect. so they "do not deny he came in the flesh",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,they deny he is the "messiah,the son of god" although there are "christian Muslims" and also Islamist that believe Christ was "the messiah" so then back up to the word he gave the definition to ,,,,,,,,,,,"Antichristos",,,,,,,,an anti-christ is some one who does not believe the ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"Christ(Greek form of mesiah/saviour) is come in the flesh",,,,,so and then add they were among those in the earth back at the cross,,,,and than more will come,as john said,,,,they were there then (the Jews that denied he was the messiah come in the flesh) at the time john wrote his books.,,,,,,,,,and after that came also (Muslims who do not believe he was the messiah come in the flesh/later),,,,,and also "any other religion that does not believe he was the Savior/messiah come in the flesh",,,,even those of whom the messiah spoke of saying "say they are of me and are not"
so now if an "person" does not see that he is the "messiah come in the flesh",they are not yet at rest from their works,,,,,,,,,the Jew looks for "another messiah",,,the Muslim looks to "Mohammad as he who was sent",they see as the "final prophet of god",,,,,which made me remember "Allah" in Arabic,,is not the "name of god",,it is the Arabic word for "god". so to translate your words you said "Allah is no god" translated to English you said ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"god(Allah/Arabic),,,, is,,,,,,,,, no,, god(English)",,or "god is no god",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i am trying to separate them,,,,,,,"in my typing",i only spoke of them so far,,,,,,,"the antichrist",,,,,i in rereading mine own post see it mat be combined,,,,,,,,,,,that is "antichrist/that mean guy that comes at the end",,,, the antichrist,,,,,,,,,,are the ones who serve the,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"mean guy",,,,,,i know i changed the words,,,,,,,,,,,suffer it for a while,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i did it to so that we do not confuse the "ruler" who will come in the end with the "spirit of antichrist" that has been in the earth since the messiah came into the earth born of the flesh,,,,,,,
"you though",,,,,,,,,,,,,you said a 'thing",,,,,,,,,,,,,,"you said,you said your body was the temple",,,i had become "sloppy",,,,me in mine old age,,,,,,,,,,i thought i was talking to them, and i was talking to you.,,,,and you are smarter than "the average bear",,,,,,,,there are the two covenants,,,one unto hager,,,and the other to Sarah and the two Yerusalem's one in haven and the other on earth. and as well as the prophecies written are to Sarah,,,,,,,,,,,also they are to Hagar. the carnal unto the carnal and the spirit unto the spirit.and if these that are "antichrist" are of "carnality",,they will do carnal things. they will build "temples" when you are the temple of god,in it's stead (in place of),,,,,,,and fight war's that are "not war's" but rumor's of war's. in the "stead" of the war's fought.,most do not know this one thing,,,,,,,,,that the scripture is of those who stood upright and the works of them,,,,,, and,,,,,,,,,,,those who did not and the works of them in the midst of them who stood upright. and they did not rightly divide the word of truth. to them it is confusion of faces,that is "they cannot discern who is of the face of god and who is of the face of confusion." they combine it all when our god told us what to do and what they would do because they do not understand.",,,,,,,,,,,,
P
I have always said I would rather talk to some who is zealous or overzealous than to talk to someone who is lukewarm. So I’d better put my money where my mouth is.
As for answering any questions I am a bit nerves to do this because of your reaction.
I think you think, because the beast is a kingdom in Daniel 7, then the beast in Rv13 is also a Kingdom/religion/Islam. If you are going to blaze both guns then you are going to need more than one bullet.
You can find anything in scripture but you need to back it up. For instance it’s good to drop LSD because the bible says 1 Corinthians 6:12 All things are lawful unto me. And John8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
but that doesn’t make it so.
As for answering any questions I am a bit nerves to do this because of your reaction.
I think you think, because the beast is a kingdom in Daniel 7, then the beast in Rv13 is also a Kingdom/religion/Islam. If you are going to blaze both guns then you are going to need more than one bullet.
You can find anything in scripture but you need to back it up. For instance it’s good to drop LSD because the bible says 1 Corinthians 6:12 All things are lawful unto me. And John8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
but that doesn’t make it so.
M
Once again you have chosen not to answer the questions. I fully understand your reluctance, after all if you answer them honestly then you would have to admit that a beast in prophecy is a kingdom so once again I will ask the same questions. Your refusal to answer them speaks volumes about how desperately you cling to the doctrine you espouse. Are you sure you are not doing exactly as Christ warned against in Mark7:13 by following that doctrine?
Can you please address the issue and maybe this time you could be kind enough to actually answer the questions you are asked.
peterT
Do you believe the Word was God?
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Do you belive God is unchanging?
Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed
Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
Do you believe God told us a beast is a kingdom?
Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth……
So peterT if God/Word is unchanging can you show a scripture that shows where God/Word has changed? if not then why should we ignore that God/Word tells us a beast is a kingdom instead of the doctrine you espouse which falsely claims the beast is "the Antichrist"?
Can you please address the issue and maybe this time you could be kind enough to actually answer the questions you are asked.
peterT
Do you believe the Word was God?
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Do you belive God is unchanging?
Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed
Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
Do you believe God told us a beast is a kingdom?
Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth……
So peterT if God/Word is unchanging can you show a scripture that shows where God/Word has changed? if not then why should we ignore that God/Word tells us a beast is a kingdom instead of the doctrine you espouse which falsely claims the beast is "the Antichrist"?
M
Yes and by denying that Christ is the begotten Son of God they deny the Son making them antichrist.
1Jn_2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
How can they know the Father if they deny He has a Son?
Christians worship the one true God of the bible who gave His only begotten Son so that we may live. Muslims worship a false god allah who has no son.
Mat 6:24No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Be very careful when condemning Jews.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
1Jn_2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
How can they know the Father if they deny He has a Son?
Christians worship the one true God of the bible who gave His only begotten Son so that we may live. Muslims worship a false god allah who has no son.
Mat 6:24No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Be very careful when condemning Jews.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
M
Once again you have refused to answer questions.No need to have a one sided conversation where only one provides answers. Now if you'll answer the questions I've asked maybe we can continue this discussion but for the time being your refusal has made discussion pointless.
Once again you have chosen not to answer the questions. I fully understand your reluctance, after all if you answer them honestly then you would have to admit that a beast in prophecy is a kingdom so once again I will ask the same questions. Your refusal to answer them speaks volumes about how desperately you cling to the doctrine you espouse. Are you sure you are not doing exactly as Christ warned against in Mark7:13 by following that doctrine?
Can you please address the issue and maybe this time you could be kind enough to actually answer the questions you are asked.
peterT
Do you believe the Word was God?
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Do you belive God is unchanging?
Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed
Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
Do you believe God told us a beast is a kingdom?
Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth……
So peterT if God/Word is unchanging can you show a scripture that shows where God/Word has changed? If not then why should we ignore that God/Word tells us a beast is a kingdom instead of the doctrine you espouse which falsely claims the beast is "the Antichrist"?
Once again you have chosen not to answer the questions. I fully understand your reluctance, after all if you answer them honestly then you would have to admit that a beast in prophecy is a kingdom so once again I will ask the same questions. Your refusal to answer them speaks volumes about how desperately you cling to the doctrine you espouse. Are you sure you are not doing exactly as Christ warned against in Mark7:13 by following that doctrine?
Can you please address the issue and maybe this time you could be kind enough to actually answer the questions you are asked.
peterT
Do you believe the Word was God?
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Do you belive God is unchanging?
Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed
Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
Do you believe God told us a beast is a kingdom?
Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth……
So peterT if God/Word is unchanging can you show a scripture that shows where God/Word has changed? If not then why should we ignore that God/Word tells us a beast is a kingdom instead of the doctrine you espouse which falsely claims the beast is "the Antichrist"?
P
I am not refusing to answer the question.
You are just making that up from your own heart.
Be more pacific and I will answer the question. Which question?
Nehemiah 6;8Then I sent unto him, saying, There are no such things done as thou sayest, but thou feignest them out of thine own heart.
I answered the other questions in RED on the last post
You are just making that up from your own heart.
Be more pacific and I will answer the question. Which question?
Nehemiah 6;8Then I sent unto him, saying, There are no such things done as thou sayest, but thou feignest them out of thine own heart.
I answered the other questions in RED on the last post
P
Meanwhile, while I'm waiting for you to point out the question you want me to answer
Seen that I have answered tree of your questions in little red writing on my second last post.
Maybe you can answer three questions I have for you.
Or don’t you practise what you preach.
Question (1) How did you get religion/Islam as a Kingdom of Rv13?
Seen that I have answered tree of your questions in little red writing on my second last post.
Maybe you can answer three questions I have for you.
Or don’t you practise what you preach.
Question (1) How did you get religion/Islam as a Kingdom of Rv13?
M
I am sorry I didn't catch your answers. I don't normally read the quote box when I am the one being quoted, I know what I said so I don't look at what I said to see what you are saying. It would be easier to see your answers if you would break the quote, answer and then resume the quote. once again Sorry I missed your answers.
Ok so lets have a look atyour answers:
"Do you believe the Word was God?"
"Do you believe God is unchanging?"
"Do yoou believe God told us a beast is a kingdom?"
Interesting God told us a beast is a kingdom, you believe it sometimes but not all the time. If a beast is a kingdom in Daniel it will still be a kingdom in Rev. Neither God or the Word changed, interesting indeed.
Earlier you said:
Yes one can twist Scripture but when they do you can usually see where that belief contradicts Scripture. A belief that contradicts Scripture is in error. So considering we have Scripture that says a beast is a kingdom then a belief that says differently would contradict Scripture. For you to say a beast is a kingdom in Daniel and then expect it to be something else in Rev is to require Scripture to contradict Scripture.
I have backed it up I have shown you where the Word was God and unchanging so if a beast in Daniel is a kingdom then a beast in Rev is still a kingdom. Now if you want to jump through hoops to make the Scripture say a beast is something besides what God said because it doesn't suit your doctrine then by all means feel free thats why we have free will. Just be careful that by doing so you don't do what Christ warned against in Mark7:13.
Friend I believe after seeing your answers that attempting to proceed would be futile. Be blessed
Ok so lets have a look atyour answers:
"Do you believe the Word was God?"
"Do you believe God is unchanging?"
"Do yoou believe God told us a beast is a kingdom?"
Interesting God told us a beast is a kingdom, you believe it sometimes but not all the time. If a beast is a kingdom in Daniel it will still be a kingdom in Rev. Neither God or the Word changed, interesting indeed.
Earlier you said:
Yes one can twist Scripture but when they do you can usually see where that belief contradicts Scripture. A belief that contradicts Scripture is in error. So considering we have Scripture that says a beast is a kingdom then a belief that says differently would contradict Scripture. For you to say a beast is a kingdom in Daniel and then expect it to be something else in Rev is to require Scripture to contradict Scripture.
I have backed it up I have shown you where the Word was God and unchanging so if a beast in Daniel is a kingdom then a beast in Rev is still a kingdom. Now if you want to jump through hoops to make the Scripture say a beast is something besides what God said because it doesn't suit your doctrine then by all means feel free thats why we have free will. Just be careful that by doing so you don't do what Christ warned against in Mark7:13.
Friend I believe after seeing your answers that attempting to proceed would be futile. Be blessed
M
Whats the point I have already proven that God said a beast is a kingdom, yet you only believe it when it fits your doctrine. May I suggest you read Mark7:13 Discussion is futile if I can show you where God's inspired unchanging word tells us something but you only accept it when it fits your doctrine. Consistency iis key in interpreting Scripture God is unchanging so what right do we have to change the definitions God gave just because it doesn't fit what we were taught. If Scripture doesn't match your doctrine change the doctrine not the Scriptures. Its all about free will believe what God tells us and make our doctrine fit Scripture or believe what you will.
Be blessed
Be blessed