*PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA IS RE-ELECTED!!*

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
T

TheGrungeDiva

Guest
#81
Exactly. Bush was center-right (as was Romney) and Clinton was center-left, and they got things done. Obama on the other hand is probably the most far-left President we've ever had.
Excuse me?

Can you please provide me with one shred of evidence of this, please?

I provide for your viewing: THIS ARTICLE
or
THIS GRAPHIC

Obama is right of CLINTON for Odin's sake, and Clinton is even pretty conservative.

Great Hera, what are they teaching you these days?
 
S

SantoSubito

Guest
#82
Yet you can't discount the fact that this is a moving Upward Trend, so much so that it is already being spoken about that many other states will follow these two states shortly since there is now a good precedent! Those in those 29 states will come around as well when they fully realize they too might have Gay and Lesbian children, parents, relatives, friends, etc. as so many indeed have all over. So, the vote may not be completely for being in favor of that type of marriage as much as sympathizing with all the discrimination and prejudice those poor folks have had to endure all these years that they are now sick of seeing and that is why many a mind is changing and will continue to change as they see the light in that these folks were created by God too just as much as you and I and are loved just as much by our LORD!
--------------------------------------------------------------
Let us all now come together in harmony, unity and peace, and stay focused on a salient purpose that will be of great benefit to the American people. -- HeavenlyWarrior
Doubt it. Have you been to the South lately? Here even a lot of the non-religious find gay marriage inherently wrong.

Speaking of upward trends, if anything the pro-traditional marriage has it, especially since Latinos skew heavily socially conservative.
 

raf

Senior Member
Sep 26, 2009
395
6
18
#83
I know, people predicted the end of the world after his first election, and things have actually improved. Not a lot, but we're definitely on an up-tick now. Somehow, Barack has manager to turn the economy around. Kinda makes all that moaning sound like Henny Penny.
Im just kidding, im trying to say that obama doesnt have as much power as a dictator like people say I mean he couldnt do much with a republican congress.
 
T

TheGrungeDiva

Guest
#84
Can you give me an example of why you think they hate god? Like what do they say that leads you to that conclusion? I'm not trying to argue, just learn.
Sure.

"If your God is so loving, why do millions of children die of starvation every year?"

You've undoubtedly heard similar themes. People like this, in my mind, aren't ready to give up their faith in God. They're angry at God. They blame God for the evil in the world, and they shake their fist at him. Like the bratty child who, when punished for something, says, "You're not my real mom," these people call themselves "atheist" to "get back at" God.

"Oh yeah? Well, just for that, I'm not going to believe in you."

These people don't realize that that is what they are doing, of course, but the anger makes it clear -- to me at least -- that that is what is going on.

A true atheist isn't angry at God. A true atheist says, "Children die, it sucks, life goes on. There is no god to blame. Sometimes there's a human to blame, but sometimes it just happens." They don't seem to be trying to blame anyone. They are at peace with their atheism, they aren't up in arms about it.

I hang out on an atheist support board on facebook, and it's fascinating; I see these "faux-atheists" all the time .... the ones who don't want their children to read the Bible or attend church, for fear that it might "poison their mind." A true atheist doesn't care. He or she might even say, "Yes, the Bible is an important piece of literature, and has influenced much of the western world."

Does that make sense?
 
Oct 19, 2012
42
1
0
#85

raf

Senior Member
Sep 26, 2009
395
6
18
#86
If you think moving toward a more socialist society is moving forward, you should do some research and understand that socialism doesn't work. By reelecting President Obama, we have solidified more socialistic and liberal policies being pushed through which will only hurt us in the long run. Debt is only going to increase, the unemployment rate will continue to be negative, more entitlement, bigger government, more regulations, etc. are in store for us which will only hinder our economy, not enhance it.

I can only hope and pray that Obama will not completely destroy any possibilities of someone coming in and fixing his mess come 2016.
Weird a lot of european countries seem to be a lot better off than america, and countries in the east are gaining a better economy while ours is going down.
 
A

AgeofKnowledge

Guest
#87
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFj88FyAEDg[/video]

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZb134WAErg[/video]

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLelSaD1zHU[/video]

Yep. Obama gets another 4 years to destroy our nation and its economy.
 
S

SantoSubito

Guest
#88
Excuse me?

Can you please provide me with one shred of evidence of this, please?

I provide for your viewing: THIS ARTICLE
or
THIS GRAPHIC

Obama is right of CLINTON for Odin's sake, and Clinton is even pretty conservative.

Great Hera, what are they teaching you these days?
The article told me something I already knew, that, in Europe's mind America ranges from moderate right to far right. As for evidence: Obamacare, open and vocal support of gay marriage, contraception mandate, vocal support for abortion, support for taxpayer funding for organizations that provide abortions, and finally the proletariat vs bourgeoisie class struggle rhetoric that's been used all too much by Democrats in this election cycle.

I will say that Obama is not as far Left fiscally despite his rhetoric. But Obama is most certainly the farthest Left candidate socially that we've seen.
 
Oct 27, 2012
300
5
0
#89
well this time Obama won both electoral and popular. Face out conservatism is a dying principle, thank God.
Agreed! And let's not forget that the Democrats also retained the Senate and gained an addition of two new Senators to give them a Super Majority! Yes, the Republicans kept the House but they will certainly have some 'house cleaning' to do before December rolls around to take care of the impeding increases and changes to take effect next January. They will certainly have to back down from their position in order to work with the president. Even the House Speaker is now sounding more conciliatory on working with President Obama yet still recalcitrant and insistent on no new tax increases for the rich. Well, go figure. Who was it that put them in office in the first place that they fully owe their allegiance to.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Let us all now come together in harmony, unity and peace, and stay focused on a salient purpose that will be of great benefit to the American people. -- HeavenlyWarrior
 
Sep 8, 2012
4,367
58
0
#90
Congratulations on your faith in a worldly ruler.
The eternal one has noted your preference.
 
Oct 27, 2012
300
5
0
#91
Doubt it. Have you been to the South lately? Here even a lot of the non-religious find gay marriage inherently wrong.

Speaking of upward trends, if anything the pro-traditional marriage has it, especially since Latinos skew heavily socially conservative.
LOL!! Is that why they OVERWHELMINGLY Voted for Obama? More than 70% of Latinos went for Obama in the election! Guess they're not as supportive of your conservative views as you and others may think.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Let us all now come together in harmony, unity and peace, and stay focused on a salient purpose that will be of great benefit to the American people. -- HeavenlyWarrior
 
Sep 8, 2012
4,367
58
0
#92
They voted for Obama for the handouts.
You are helping create a third world state.
 
Oct 27, 2012
300
5
0
#93
Congratulations on your faith in a worldly ruler.
The eternal one has noted your preference.
Ah Ricky boy! I see you're chiming in! I don't know whom you are addressing here other than the Topical Subject matter that I have posted but at any rate God gives power to our president to govern the country, of that there can be no doubt! And that's not just me talking, many Christian churches maintain that stance and belief. And the fact that He has allowed President Obama to be Re-Elected is to obviously show that he was the better of the two candidates when it comes to being truly caring and humanitarian with a good heart to help the people in need, especially the poor, as Christ was known to do.

"Because I delivered the poor that cried, and the fatherless, and him that had none to help him. The blessing of him that was ready to perish came upon me: and I caused the widow's heart to sing for joy." -- JOB 29:12-13 (KJV)

"But I am poor and needy; yet the LORD thinketh upon me: thou art my help and my deliverer; make no tarrying, O my God." -- PSALM 40:17 (KJV)

So, I am totally satisfied and honored in that He has noted my preferences and that of the millions of others in this great country who voted for our president! He has BLESSED our president with another four-year term and now expects for your side to join him in helping those in need instead of continuing to thwart their help. With your party's continued stance on disenfranchising people in need rather than being all-inclusive and helpful, honestly, it makes me wonder just what kind of heart do you people have?!

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Let us all now come together in harmony, unity and peace, and stay focused on a salient purpose that will be of great benefit to the American people. -- HeavenlyWarrior
 
Sep 8, 2012
4,367
58
0
#94
We have a heart for the totally innocent; the unborn.
 
T

TheGrungeDiva

Guest
#95
I will say that Obama is not as far Left fiscally despite his rhetoric. But Obama is most certainly the farthest Left candidate socially that we've seen.
So you are drawing a distinction between economic policies and social policies? Do I understand you correctly?

You are saying that his economic platform may or may not be particularly "right" or "left" or "center," but his social policies are left to an extreme?

If I am understanding you correctly, I think I can see where you're going. No other president has ever even suggested that homosexuals could serve openly in the military, and Obama lifted DADT.

No other president would ever admit to using drugs. Clinton came close with his, "but I didn't inhale" line. And here's Obama, openly admitting that he has used controlled substances.

I don't think that's a matter of Obama being particularly liberal. I think that falls under the category of, "in time, the liberals always win."

Allow me to demonstrate:

A few hundred years ago, it was "common knowledge" in the western world that white people were simply superior to blacks and asians. God gave us dominion over other races, as evidenced by our advanced technology, and it was our right and responsibility to govern the less capable races. This was just accepted as fact, unquestioned.

And then some people started questioning. Is intelligence or fitness to govern really a factor of melanin, or lack thereof? At first, these people were radical. "That's crazy talk," they were told. But they persisted. And in time, they were proved right. Now, it's only extremists on the other side who think that race has anything to do with intelligence.

And a few decades ago, it was just universally accepted that women were incapable of most tasks outside the menial labor set aside from them. A woman certainly would never be able to figure out math or science on a level that would allow her to pursue a career in those subjects, her mind just wasn't up to the task. Everyone knows girls aren't good at that sort of thing.

And then a few people challenged that. They were called communists, radicals, destroyers of families. We can't let women work outside the home, it will end civilization as we know it.

But they did. And they were good at it. And now some of our greatest scientists are women. Women are responsible for some amazing inventions and life-saving technologies. Far from destroying the world, they have improved the standard of living significantly.

Given time, the liberals always win.

So, when you tell me that President Obama's acceptance of homosexuality strikes you as being "overly liberal," I sit back and smile, because I know in time, people will look back at this period of history, and wonder why people were so upset by gays getting married, and what the big deal was, anyway.

Given time, the liberals always win.
 
S

SantoSubito

Guest
#96
LOL!! Is that why they OVERWHELMINGLY Voted for Obama? More than 70% of Latinos went for Obama in the election! Guess they're not as supportive of your conservative views as you and others may think.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Let us all now come together in harmony, unity and peace, and stay focused on a salient purpose that will be of great benefit to the American people. -- HeavenlyWarrior
They are, but they place views on immigration above all else. Put an initiative before them for legalizing gay marriage and they will vote it down every time, since they are conservative Catholics you know. Also note that none of the states that have legalized gay marriage by referendum have a substantial Latino population, they all have largely homogeneous white populations. While many that have banned it by referendum do.

Basically if the Republicans field a candidate that has a clear plan for Immigration, then they can win Latinos, because apart from that one issue their values line up more with the Republican party.
 
Oct 27, 2012
300
5
0
#97
They voted for Obama for the handouts.
You are helping create a third world state.
That is a Great Insult to every Hispanic and Latino person in these United States!

It continually shows that you and your party are heartless and simply do not care about them other than to relegate them into second-class citizens and they have certainly taken notice of that by the results of this last election and your prejudiced stance about them that is so reflective of your political conservative party. Keep it up and you will soon find your party being the Permanent Minority Party of this country!

---------------------------------------------------------------------
"But I am poor and needy; yet the LORD thinketh upon me: thou art my help and my deliverer; make no tarrying, O my God." -- PSALM 40:17 (KJV)
 
Sep 8, 2012
4,367
58
0
#98
Me and my party?
I'm not republican.
Besides most latinos still believe in family.
Get off your high horse!
How can someone who finds their grace in a mortal man
be as preachy as you?
I don't see you so indignant for the rights of the unborn.
Just get off your 'holier than thou' attitude.
It doesn't stand up well here.
Maybe in a meeting of 'Planned Parenthood' or 'The World Socialist State(Inc.)' it would,
but not here.
 
Oct 27, 2012
300
5
0
#99
They are, but they place views on immigration above all else. Put an initiative before them for legalizing gay marriage and they will vote it down every time, since they are conservative Catholics you know. Also note that none of the states that have legalized gay marriage by referendum have a substantial Latino population, they all have largely homogeneous white populations. While many that have banned it by referendum do.

Their views are changing on Gay Marriage according to interviews and other statistics as they come to realize that many households have Gay and Lesbian family members, friends, relatives, associates, etc. And they knew Full Well who they were voting for and what the President's values are on that matter. They could have voted for Romney if what you say is true but they didn't now did they? And they do not have to live in a state with a 'substantial Latino population'. They know full well what's going on despite that so don't try to marginalize them by making it seem that they cannot make their voice heard with their vote because They Just Have!

And you have made another mistake when you refer to ".... have largely homogeneous white populations." Did you not know or realize that Latinos and Hispanics are White in race also! They are, just as much as the Italians who are the real Latins. Just ask any government office and they will tell you that there is no "Latino race" or "Hispanic race". That is entirely just an ethnicity for your information and they are frequently counted among the Whites as reports have well brought out unless one is solely considering ethnicity.


Basically if the Republicans field a candidate that has a clear plan for Immigration, then they can win Latinos, because apart from that one issue their values line up more with the Republican party.
If that were actually true they would have overwhelmingly supported Mitt Romney! Sorry to burst your bubble but Republicans will never win Latinos over as long as they continue to oppose THE DREAM ACT, for one, and continue to paint them as being the workers who do the work no one else wants to touch! They fully deserve dignity and respect from the conservative party and they are not seeing it! End of story.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
B

Batman007

Guest
Congratulations on your faith in a worldly ruler.
The eternal one has noted your preference.
Worldly ruler? Don't you mean a leader of AMERICA? Last I checked, America is not the world. Honestly, it bothers me that your post suggests that.

And as far as everyone saying that the election of Obama is going to bring the apocalypse (not as much in this thread, but regardless), what about other leaders around the world? Kim Jong-Il, Isaias Afewerki, and Omar Al-Bashir to name a few. If anyone is going to suggest that Obama is even in league with these people, please, go read a book. Seriously. Obama is a politician who, I strongly believe, is genuinely trying to better this country. Might he make a few mistakes along the way? Sure, he's human. But any leader would. If you think he's making America a terrible place, for god's sake research some countries lead by domineering dictators. Maybe that will put things in perspective. They will make you GLAD Obama is president.