Why does being Christian mean you have to hate same-sex marriage?

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JimJimmers

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But why not? Interpreting certain passages and not others starts getting tricky...How do you know which ones are what God actually meant and others we can twist and interpret?
Uhhhhh, it said not to lie with a man, 'as a man lies with a woman'. I think we're all old enough to know what that means. That being said, you don't NEED to stand against gay marriage, I don't. Remember, "if MY PEOPLE who are called by MY NAME shall humbly pray, and turn from, sin and their wicked ways, I shall hear them and heal their land." As Christians, the speck in our own eye is much more important than the beam in the eye of an unbeliever. We are to offer them Jesus, not try to take away their homosexuality. No man can un-gay someone.
 
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SpaceCowboy

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You can love your neighbor and share the gospel with them, or you can tolerate their sin so that there happy all the way to hell.

We have to fully understand what's at stake here. We have to fully realize how Holy our Lord is and how disgusting all sin is. From theft, to lies, to sexual depravity.

I know gay people that I'm trying to convert but I don't bring up their sin, or wound their conscience. We know that it's the goodness of God that leads people to repentence. (Romans 2:4) So I believe the best thing to do for your gay friends is to have your stance known, and to act forgiving and graceful in light of it. Instead of using the fact that homosexuality is a sin to gain some sort of pretentious high ground. That way they'll know that your against homosexuality and yet you treat them just the same as any other person. Loving and serving them. Operating in the Spirit because it's God alone that brings the increase. (1 Corinthians 3:6)

Don't compromise on your stance, or your faith. Speak the truth in love and actualize your faith with good deeds that are wrought in God and cannot be spoken against.

Godbless
 

oldhermit

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If it were a choice between sending a child to live with a heterosexual couple who would beat them mercilessly all day, everyday, or send them to a homosexual home with loving, caring parents, who in their right mind would send it to the first house?

I don't support gay marriage for myself because I'm not a lesbian. However, I won't stop others form loving who they love. Why is it any different than letting two Hindus get married? They are in a relationship that is completely different from your own and you don't agree with their views, but there is NO thought whatsoever that we should forbid all Hindus to get married.

Love thy neighbor, why do we overlook this message sometimes, but not other times?
Christians must hate the sin of hosexuality in all of its forms because God has been very clear on the fact that HE HATES IT. We can only love the things that God loves and embrace the things that God embraces. To do otherwise is to "become a partaker in their evil deeds." Never forget to love the individual but NEVER allow yousrelf to love and sanction behavior that God regards as abominable.
 
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When the bible speak of to " lie with " means to have sex with. Also the poor girl in the other country after hearing the story of Jesus may reject it at first. I did, well I say I believed the story I just wanted it all my way. So she may come to find the lord. Pray for her
Homosexuality doesn't mean you are going to die at 42. It's an average like 72 years is the average age for humans. Some live to be over a hundred some only live a few minutes. It's an average, but homosexuality lifestyle has been proven to take many years off of one’s life
 

tribesman

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Re: Why does being Christian mean you have to hate same-sex marriage?

Being a christian means hating all sin, just like Christ did.

Heb.1

[8] But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
[9] Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
 
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meecha

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Re: Why does being Christian mean you have to hate same-sex marriage?

Being a christian means hating all sin, just like Christ did.
LOL...it's pretty simple isn't it!
 
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oracle2world

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There is tolerance and approval. They are not the same. Americans and our freedom of religion, and freedoms period, make us the most tolerant people in the world. The posts on YouTube that are completely abhorrent to foreigners, seem par for the course to us. I am not going to give up MY freedom of speech just because someone else has an over-the-top rant.

GLBT's want approval, not just tolerance, but approval and acknowledgement their behavior is absolutely normal. It won't happen. Sorry if that offends. There are just some biological facts that no legislature can legislate to suit their whim.

There is a book "King and King" written for second-graders, to be taught in public schools. The principle character is gay, kisses a man at the end, etc. The most offensive part of the book to me, was the book to say divorce was okay. No, divorce is not okay, and teaching to second graders that divorce is okay, is not okay. Especially when some of those school kids are trying to deal with their parent's divorces.

The biggest issue with GLBT issues? They are just a huge distraction. For a special interest group that likely numbers less than a million, there is a gay story every single day in the news. A new battle to be fought for "rights". And the pouncing and piling on never stop. Just find another hot button issue with straights, pounce on it, sic the legal juggernaut on it, and push until people cave just to get it off the table to focus on more important things. The gay marriage thing was the most nonsensical issue I have ever come across. As GLBTs regularly point out, straights have some serious issues with marriage. That is completely true. So why would any group march for the right to get married with all the acknowledged problems that brings on?

Now I have just exercised my freedom of speech. If folks get upset with that, well, that is just something they will have to accept, if they want me to be tolerant of their views. And if exercise of freedom of religion means quoting the Bible somewhere along the way, then freedom of religion is going to get some real exercise.

You are welcome to hate me for my views, it is your constitutional right. It is my constitutional right to express them. I think we can get along.
 
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In the beginning GOD created MAN AND WOMAN! He first created the MAN and he saw that he was along so he made WOMAN, NOT another man. God set everything up properly, PRAISE THE LORD and he never designed a man to be with MAN or a woman to be with a WOMAN. That is the way it is. God bless you in Jesus' Name.
 
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meecha

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Sodomy is a crime according to God's law but homosexuality in society is a judgement. Calling on the state or hoping for the state to "do something" is dellusional since God is giving western society over as per Romans 1.

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. 19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world,[g] in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.

these Unrighteous suppress the truth....it is something they deliberately and wilfully do. This is even more true of the West today than it was in Paul's time. Western nations have heard the gospel but they suppress the truth. Christians go along with it because they believe the state to be a progressive force for good rather than a necessary evil that should be limited. Christians disengage from "politics" because they have been told by the state that religion is "private". The 1st century Christians did not think like this....they told the Emperor that he was not Lord and that Jesus Christ was. If American Christians pulled their children out of tax funded state education the system would fail. The state loves to have the kids of Christians. They advance sats scores while the state corrupts their minds. The state is the idol that huge sections of the Christian church worship. So God gives us over and as Romans 1 shows it is the increase in an openly homosexual agenda that signifies this. This is so much so that many Christians actually end up defending the propoganda of the gay lobby. This lobby is a tiny hardcore but it wields massive influence. Now read Deut 28 on blessings and curses and see what happens to a people who claim to belong to the Lord whilst rejecting His law.Then reread Rom 1.

24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, 25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.
26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. 29 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32 Though they know God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.
 
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Abing

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I don't hate same sex marriage... I condem it. Yeah like everyone already pointed out, it's a sin. And sin and righteousness are just two opposite things. It's like oil and water, heaven and hell, good and bad - can never be together.
 
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greatblue

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The issue is itself a demonstration of just how cunning satan is with sin. He built up his greatest army against God and His creation and placed an attack at sexual identity. Genesis shows God's blessing to multiply is clearly His intended procreation model...His will. Homosexuality is a satanic lie that imbedded itself in creation along with every other sin, but it is deeper as a parasite on "identity". Just consider how depraved the lie in homosexuality is as it voices, "God made me this way." Incorrect. Satan and sin made homosexuality that way and if nothing else, homosexuality should bring a person to his or her knees to cry out to God because it is clearly not His will.

Universalist type christians saying "God is love", such as the Rob Bell types are "christians" who totally fall to the cunning ploy of satan. Can't you hear the serpent saying, "Surely He didn't mean...only male and female."
 
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rainacorn

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Making bad things illegal will not force people to choose God. You can never force someone to choose God.

I think we should be less concerned with this issue from a legal standpoint and significantly more concerned from a moral and spiritual standpoint. But, it's not easy.

Suppressing truth -> darkened hearts -> believing lies -> God giving you over -> dragging others down with you (Romans 1)

Thinking there's 'nothing wrong' with something very quickly turns into not only condoning it, but encouraging it. Is this what God wants for us? I know many of us have homosexual friends... they believe lies and God has given them over to shameful lusts. Don't let them drag you down with them, help them out of their pit.
 
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smithbr8

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Why is it believed that homosexual couples would only raise homosexual children?
 
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rainacorn

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Why is it believed that homosexual couples would only raise homosexual children?
Do people believe that?

That would be a very weird thing to put your faith in.
 
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smithbr8

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Do people believe that?

That would be a very weird thing to put your faith in.
I think the same way, but a lot of people say that's why they're against homosexual couples raising children- the kids will always turn out gay. By this logic, wouldn't straight parents only have straight kids?
 
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agh this could go on for pages without a single thing being remembered in latter days, the point is it's wrong and anything that comes out of it is wrong including the children, imagine a baby boy with two daddies, and no mommy, God wanted no divorces and my i can only imagine what he thinks of abortion or putting a kid up for adoption when he wasn't orphaned by his parents death,..and so it's not a good thing and it's just pointless really, you want a kid but you don't want the opposite sex to make it with? it's confusion to the child and the parent. and God is not the author of confusion.
 
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and also that kid could turn out gay, because as i see it the people who are okay with being gay were raised that way, not born that way....