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Crossnote let me ask you, in posts 35, 39 and 40...do you really truly honestly think I wasn't trying to help you? Please read them again without the lies of ember ringing in your ears. You see when someone comes in with the mud-slinging and false accusations, no one remembers anything but that, so the focus is shifted...and of course the damage is done.
Anyone can read my three relevant posts to you above, and please do come back and show me why you think I was not helping you?
This comes up time and time again. Someone who made an unkind remark to Russ (who also is constantly trying to help others on here) said that it was the pot calling the kettle black, meaning I am the unkind one. Again, please show me where I have been unkind without the noise of others' accusations ringing in your ears? Just bring the evidence.
I do my best to tell the truth. That does upset people who actually don't want the truth, but whatever.
It really isn't me who is creating division: it is the one who is accusing me of such. This is something called "projecting" and is a form of bullying and emotional abuse.
The bottom line is, there can be NO unity outside of the Holy Spirit, and NO ONE has the Holy Spirit unless they are born again. Having said that, there are major demons which do seduce even the children of God, if they will not humble themselves before Him. The church is in a very bad state when people speak lies and say God told them so.
Anyone can read my three relevant posts to you above, and please do come back and show me why you think I was not helping you?
This comes up time and time again. Someone who made an unkind remark to Russ (who also is constantly trying to help others on here) said that it was the pot calling the kettle black, meaning I am the unkind one. Again, please show me where I have been unkind without the noise of others' accusations ringing in your ears? Just bring the evidence.
I do my best to tell the truth. That does upset people who actually don't want the truth, but whatever.
It really isn't me who is creating division: it is the one who is accusing me of such. This is something called "projecting" and is a form of bullying and emotional abuse.
The bottom line is, there can be NO unity outside of the Holy Spirit, and NO ONE has the Holy Spirit unless they are born again. Having said that, there are major demons which do seduce even the children of God, if they will not humble themselves before Him. The church is in a very bad state when people speak lies and say God told them so.
Just began reading some of this thread and had a major belly laugh at your post. Mind you I'm not as into this thread as all of you but found your post extremely funny in it's honest simplicity. 
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This topic is very interesting. I think there are no new prophecies but its a matter of people given the gifts of interpretations like drawing out truths of Jesus from the Bible as they know individuals in the church body and become friends. Some may have a 'word' for someone in order to help them see either the error of their ways before they fall flat on their face or to encourage them on the path that the Lord has set their feet on by giving them sort of a 'word' of encouragement. Being verified in your walk is so helpful and encouraging.
All within the body to build each one up in Christ for oh so many reasons including to be a light and testimony in the world for Christ to bring the Gospel to a dying world in our communities. But to also build each other up in the faith. He surely knew we needed to be sharpened by each other with truth and encouragement. There is just something about Christian fellowship that brings this GIANT JOY to the inner parts of our being. Human's have this great need to share and interact with each other.
The Bible gives us a wonderful view of the people in the church and their gifts in 1 Cor.12 What an amazing organization the church body is!!! No wonder the gates of hell shall not prevail against her. And then how in 1 Cor.13 it goes on to explain the love of God in us that will make it all work together.
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Prophetic Function
"Robertson observes: "The prophets had a practical office to discharge. It was part of their commission to show the people of God 'their transgressions and the house of Jacob their sins' (Isa.58:1; Ekek.22:2, 43:10; Mic.3:8). They were, therefore, pastors and ministerial monitors of the people of God. It was their duty to admonish and reprove, to denounce prevailing sins, to threaten the people with the terrors of divine judgement, and to call them to repentence."
(The New Ungers Bible Dictionary, Merrill F. Unger, third edition c.1966, The Moody Bible Institute of Chicago, pg. 1042)
"Robertson observes: "The prophets had a practical office to discharge. It was part of their commission to show the people of God 'their transgressions and the house of Jacob their sins' (Isa.58:1; Ekek.22:2, 43:10; Mic.3:8). They were, therefore, pastors and ministerial monitors of the people of God. It was their duty to admonish and reprove, to denounce prevailing sins, to threaten the people with the terrors of divine judgement, and to call them to repentence."
(The New Ungers Bible Dictionary, Merrill F. Unger, third edition c.1966, The Moody Bible Institute of Chicago, pg. 1042)
sure enough.
You Can Receive The Gift Of The Holy Spirit
at the bottom of this page:
FAQs
also here
https://johngatimu.wordpress.com/regious-views/you-should-speak-in-tongues/
for example.
you might also look into Charles & Frances Hunter's pentecostal revival "ministry" - they traveled around the country hosting seminars and meetings where they teach people not only how to pray and speak in unknown languages, but also purported to 'teach' how to heal. the same business is nowadays carried on by their daughter Joan here:
Hunter Ministries, Charles & Frances Hunter - Joan Hunter Ministries
& the list of youtube tutorials is almost endless.
here's one - with a little blurb celebrating the "teacher" John Fenn.
How to Speak in Tongues - John Fenn | Answers-To-Prayer.com
there are 100's of books on the subject too, i'm guessing giving pretty much the same advice: empty your mind, start speaking nonsense syllables, carefully avoiding any words in any language that you know, and trust that God will sort it out.
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Nah..you were not trying to help anyone. You were trying to shut down the thread because people are expressing their own thoughts here instead of mirroring yours
You must think we serve a weak God if my little attempts at discussing the infinite are somehow going to make a dent in the truth that is God
I am not accusing you of anything. You DO cause division and you DO spoil discussions and you DO have an agenda
You do not hand out peace miss and neither do I. We have the peace of God which passes all understanding
See, there are believers here...people who follow Christ and you had nothing to do with it and those are the people I want to speak to and have fellowship with
The truth is that you came and posted here trying to steer folks to another site to read and possibly study something that may or may not be helpful...you didn't write it, so who knows
I will expose the false whenever I come across it. I can't do otherwise. Seems there are others here that have the same ability.
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posthuman
I would agree with the above
Paul certainly didn't reject the message and it does not seem the message was intened to direct so much as to inform, or, as you say, confirm
seems Paul already had his mind made up so I guess we can peak behind the scenes abit if inclined or see it as presented
either way, there is not bragging or insisting that the prophet be listend to or else you won't go to heaven
moving right along
I would agree with the above
Paul certainly didn't reject the message and it does not seem the message was intened to direct so much as to inform, or, as you say, confirm
seems Paul already had his mind made up so I guess we can peak behind the scenes abit if inclined or see it as presented
either way, there is not bragging or insisting that the prophet be listend to or else you won't go to heaven
moving right along
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posthuman again
that's rubbish IMO
never ever empty your mind and trust that what follows is God
it most likely will not be God unless you hear something along the lines of:
WAKE UP AND GO AND RENEW YOUR MIND ACCORDING TO MY WORD!
eastern religions are advocates of the empty mind and of course so is new age which by now is old age
that's rubbish IMO
never ever empty your mind and trust that what follows is God
it most likely will not be God unless you hear something along the lines of:
WAKE UP AND GO AND RENEW YOUR MIND ACCORDING TO MY WORD!
eastern religions are advocates of the empty mind and of course so is new age which by now is old age
Convallaria and I have not boasted about anything. We have not demanded that people should listen to us. Yet there are those who are either threatened, fearful, or jealous and see us as prophets who need to be killed. We have not spoken curses against these people as they have cursed us. Anyone can check all the thread we have posted on and see that we have been maligned just because of who we are. We have not launched these vicious attacks. People have created straw men from their imagination and placed lying words in our mouth we didn't say. What kind of person does this? If people want to disagree with us, that's just fine. However, disagreeing with us is not where it stops and they seek to slur our character. Instead of allowing peace to prevail they spit venom. We have stood up against the bulling and false allegations in self defense. We are not going to lay down and let them slay us. Paul stated his office was not accepted by others even in his time, so it would not be surprising that people today would have the same rejections of the Apostles and Prophets of God.
So we match the biblical perspective about prophets, because we are hated without cause just like all before us.
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So we match the biblical perspective about prophets, because we are hated without cause just like all before us.
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The ministry of the prophet (and apostle) is still in effect today. But the New Testament prophet is different from the Old Testament prophet. This is where people get confused. Nobody today is saying "90 days and New York will be destroyed!". Nobody today is giving revelation in the sense that Paul, Peter, James, John, and Jude did in writing epistles to the church. But people can still receive revelation that is relevant to the hearer and speak forth prophetically as the Spirit wills. Read Prophets and Prophesying for more insight.
absolutely. Paul does say that speaking in a unknown tongue edifies the one speaking - but not the listener, unless it's interpreted. but he also explains that what edification is never separate from understanding - if you are proud to be speaking in a way that even you do not understand, how can you say that you're edifying yourself? so when he says 'unknown' here, isn't it unknown to the hearer, not the speaker? the Spirit groans in us with words that can't be spoken, but we understand, even though we can't express it. this is not the same as purposefully being unintelligible, and i do sincerely hope that no one here who claims to speak in tongues is talking about the "method" outlined in all those links, which is nothing more than sowing confusion, because we will reap what we sow.
So what shall I do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will also pray with my understanding;
I will sing with my spirit, but I will also sing with my understanding.
(1 Corinthians 14:15)
I will sing with my spirit, but I will also sing with my understanding.
(1 Corinthians 14:15)