Ahhh your quotes are off Peter..,
My point is stop making blanket statements about what folks believe...for example you could have said
.
My reason for making these observations is just they were how people reacted in discussions.
I use language to summarise a position or another way of describing it.
The problem is it is an abstract with reference to a particular way of talking about theology.
Believe it or not, people are doing this about everyone all the time.
So it will not help just saying you cannot do this, because that is what we all do.
It is why saying I was not OSAS means I must be a legalist. I was told this enough times.
There are those who think if you are OSAS you are a heretic. I tend to use these descriptions
as markers, indicators of language, talking points. They are not real, they are created by
people to give a sense of certainty. Once you begin to understand this, they become helpful
and not being judgemental or condemnatory etc. People change their beliefs over time and
experience, but if they do not have tools to understand and converse they tend to stay stuck.
Hope you see where I am coming from, I am not saying any individual believes this, it is just
a construct based on what has been said, to help describe it.