“Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted 1 cor cp 14

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Mathew 7

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
 
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I was needing to address the matter of that all scripture is the word of God in the instance of Moses law of divorce I sincerely don't see how that was God's word or will for there is what the Lord had said which was that Moses had given that to us because of the hardness of our hearts and I am trying to remember but didn't He also say that Moses had essentially knew better for it was not so in the beginning and then He goes on to say what God's real truth is which is that in heaven there will be no marriage and we will be given to each other like the angels in heaven now if that is not enough for you then how do we explain to someone who is trying to learn and reason about God and we say on the one hand God had created marriage and then apparently changed His mind and gave Moses the "scripture" the law of divorce? I personally don't think that God changes His mind so in my eyes that is one of the greatest contradictions in the bible and so I will stick more to the words in red and if the Lord said that he gave it to us because of the hardness in our hearts then that is good enough for me. ...God bless everyone who reads this and may His peace and love be upon all of us much love
 
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Yeah Team. God will use a willing vessel. Look at Esther. God use us for Your glory. We praise and worship You.
 
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Bonnie77

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TRUTH. God has spoken and I will obey Him and worship Him forever.
 
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aforgivensonofGod

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Hmm... I have an idea, lets seek God answer for this. Who wants to pray everyday for an hour each?

Holy Spirit, we need your help... can you define your words for us, on what you really mean by this? A lot of us are confused on the subject and really don't know. Too many give out their own answers and opinions. All the answers they give are from their own theology, beliefs, and what they think the scripture means, and some perhaps are from you. But we need your wisdom, and your scripture, and what you claim. Guide us through, and give us strength in the matter to accept whatever answer you give, amen.


Or, you all can sit here and bicker about things you know not of, and can't even comprehend to understand because you're already twisted in your own ideology and religious system? Either that, or listen and pray to the holy Spirit to give his interpretation on the matter to the words, "But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence."

Yea... Not to teach or usurp authority over a MAN. Hmmm... seems very clear to me. Amen.

Also to all these silly claims that said there were many women who had authority over a man in the Bible, the answer is no. There was only one figure in the Bible who was a woman that had authority over a man, that was Deborah. Nobody else did, not in the old or new. Esther was a wife of the King, she wasn't over the King. Stop saying she had authority over a man, she didn't, get over yourself with this.

Deborah in most cases is an interesting one. Time to check up on it.
 
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"women in the church cannot preach"
we don't see any example in the bible of a woman having the ministry of preaching the gospel in the churches.
of course we see in the old testament women doing the "work of men" but it is SO different to the preaching of the gospel "in the church"
 
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"Women cannot preach." Last time I checked, it said, "Let no woman teach or usurp authority over a MAN." I think most of you just twist scripture to make it sound like the rest of us are telling women, they can't preach, have ministry, share the gospel. In my taste, I find it very ignorant and sort of mind blogging how some can change scripture to defend their own liking.

Lets just leave the scripture as it is, it says, "Not to teach and usurp AUTHORITY over a MAN."

What does Authority means in the Bible... Just reading it, I can sure well tell, it doesn't mean, "Woman can't reach, share the gospel, have ministry,..." You people need to stop adding to scripture.
 
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aforgivensonofGod said:
Yea... show me where it said, "Women cannot preach." Last time I checked, it said, "Let no woman teach or usurp authority over a MAN." Sorry bud, I think most of you just twist scripture to make it sound like the rest of us are telling women, they can't preach, have ministry, share the gospel. In my taste, I find it very ignorant and sort of mind blogging how some people can use scripture and twist it all up for something else.

Lets just leave the scripture as it is, it says, "Not to teach and usurp AUTHORITY over a MAN."
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show me one verse, just one verse, showing a woman preaching in the church. or a woman called pastor of the church. or a woman called bishop of the church.
 
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Well... I can't, there isn't one. But what is interesting though is that there was only one woman who did had authority over a man, and that was in the Old Testament, which was Deborah, and she was the Judge over Israel after Joshua in the promise land. I never really read up on it much or gave it much though, until today.
 
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kote said:
show me one verse, just one verse, showing a woman preaching in the church. or a woman called pastor of the church. or a woman called bishop of the church.
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Didn't mean to quote you.
 
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aforgivensonofGod said:
Well... I can't, there isn't one. But what is interesting though is that there was only one woman who did had authority over a man, and that was in the Old Testament, which was Deborah, and she was the Judge over Israel after Joshua in the promise land. I never really read up on it much or gave it much though, until today.
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exactly! "old testament" and the OT does not speak of the "wonderful gospel" as it is taught in the NT. please do not confuse the teachings of the OT with the NT.
 
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kote said:
exactly! "old testament" and the OT does not speak of the "wonderful gospel" as it is taught in the NT. please do not confuse the teachings of the OT with the NT.
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Sorry my friend, but I will have to correct you on this. Yes it does. Everything in the Old Testament speaks of the New Testament, and they do not contradict each other. Not one verse.
 
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Willie-T said:
I'd say you still have about a 200'-deep Legalistic pit to climb out of before you can even begin looking at Christ as He showed Himself to us.
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That's what I'm trying to do Will is get the folks to see Christ as He showed Himself to us. You're getting warm Willey.
 
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aforgivensonofGod said:
Sorry my friend, but I will have to correct you on this. Yes it does. Everything in the Old Testament speaks of the New Testament, and they do not contradict each other. Not one verse.
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brother. i believe with all my heart in the old testament, but we can't mix some verses , for example, kings and men of god in the old testament had a lot of women, but it doesn't mean that we have to take that verse to support adultery "in" the church. I hope you understand what I say
 
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brother. i believe with all my heart in the old testament, but we can't mix some verses , for example, kings and men of god in the old testament had a lot of women, but it doesn't mean that we have to take that verse to support adultery "in" the church. I hope you understand what I say
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Nothing in that verse said anything about supporting adultery. Here's something I learn a long time ago and that is, "Don't separate what you don't understand." We lack a lot of wisdom, and it's hard for us to understand the concept of which Christ gave us in his word. What often happen is, because we don't understand it, we separate or try not to "mix" things together.

I learn not to do so, just because I don't understand something, doesn't mean they "don't mix." Matter of truth, they probably do, it's not the scripture, it's our lack of wisdom. Why not trust in Christ in his own scripture, and allow him to reveal it to us as we journey with him?

And again, no where in the Old Testament it said it supported adultery, it went against it. And you have to also understand that the Old Testament was fulfilled by the New, and was NOT destroyed.
 
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kaylagrl said:
Are you speaking to me? If so,yes. He passed away a few weeks ago. He was an American Eskimo named Polar.
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I know what you're feeling. Their part of the family. Our cat named punkie disappeared last Friday. Had for 11 years.

My my wife has cried several times over it.

The day before she vanished, I was thinking about the first Christian book I bought and read part of. I believe it was titled 'Under the Rod'. How we are going to experience crosses and losses in this life. Written in the 1800's.

By that remembrance, I knew God had punkie in His care. He loves our pets more than we do. He created them for His and our pleasure and blessing. He removes things from our lives as well, and is part of the plan. He's preparing us to reign with Him. He'll restore those things needful in the end I believe.
We are constantly reminded, by death around us, that we are preparing for a 'better country' ' a better city' whose Builder and Maker is God.
I have an opinion. Since there will be animal life in His kingdom on earth, why not the animals we have loved and shed tears over and have ached in our hearts over? I know what manner of God He is, and that sounds just like Him!
 
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I don't understand how anyone can argue that women can teach or have authority over a man, its so obvious in this verse.

12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
 
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Where 2 or 3 are gathered in His Name, He is in their midst. That's 'having church'. If 3 sisters gather in his Name, and He promises to be in their midst, maybe they can learn sign language.

See how dumb this is?
 
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phil112

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Where 2 or 3 are gathered in His Name, He is in their midst. That's 'having church'. If 3 sisters gather in his Name, and He promises to be in their midst, maybe they can learn sign language.

See how dumb this is?
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I see how dumb it is when people twist, stretch, and pervert gospel to support their pet doctrine. Can you really not see how asinine it is for you to bring an "example" that never occurs to support a false doctrine? No? No, I guess you can't.
Try reading your post back to yourself a few times. Maybe that will do it.
 
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Where 2 or 3 are gathered in His Name, He is in their midst. That's 'having church'. If 3 sisters gather in his Name, and He promises to be in their midst, maybe they can learn sign language.

See how dumb this is?
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What do you think this means?

12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
 
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