“Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted 1 cor cp 14

[Joidevivre]

Re: “Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted 1 cor cp 14

The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;
4 That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,
5 To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.

On the other side, if you only knew how many aged women I have had to teach to not be given to much wine - especially to love their husbands and even their children. They are sometimes very bitter.

The aged women are not always the most spiritually strong in this culture about these things and not necessarily better able to teach than the younger women are. Just as the men are not always the most spiritually equipped to preach and teach more than a woman is.

 

[Ariel82]

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I believe the Enemy will try and divide God's children from His church through pride and misconceptions.

No church is perfect because it is made of imperfect people. We will be offended, insulted, even feel belittled and ingored by some members of a church, but we need to forgive and be like the people we want others to be.

We need to exam our hearts and self to see if we belittle those around us, do we listen to their pain,their cries of loneliness?

Or in our pride do we answer their defensive arrogance with harsh words and condemnation?

How prideful is it to judge and kick others out of the family of God even only in our minds.

Do you remember as a kid getting mad when you follow the rules but other kids broke them and were not punished?

This question about women preaching in church makes me think of the side issue of women and men dressing modestly.

Yes we should, but will God No longer love us or that prositute if they come to church in the only clothes they own? Should we not love them and allow God to put in their hearts the desire to change? Shouldn't we be there to take them shopping or give them clothes if they ever get the courage to ask for help?

The passage about women not speaking and asking their husband questions at home make sense if you imagine loud whispers and demands for explanation in the crowd.can you imagine how distracting that would be?

I think women can teach and preach the basics of the Gospel but there are things only men can teach younger men. And there are things only older women can teach younger women.

Men need to show and teach younger men how to be husbands and fathers

Women need to teach younger women about menstrual cycles, pregnancy, breast feeding, cooking, etc.

Don't take scripture out of context. God has a plan.

The pastor is not the head of the church, Jesus Christ is. Therefore the head will always be male, we are but helpers and parts of His body.

 

[kaylagrl]

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It is your Dog?

Are you speaking to me? If so,yes. He passed away a few weeks ago. He was an American Eskimo named Polar.

 

[NotmebutHim]

Re: “Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted 1 cor cp 14

I believe the Enemy will try and divide God's children from His church through pride and misconceptions.

No church is perfect because it is made of imperfect people. We will be offended, insulted, even feel belittled and ingored by some members of a church, but we need to forgive and be like the people we want others to be.

We need to exam our hearts and self to see if we belittle those around us, do we listen to their pain,their cries of loneliness?

Or in our pride do we answer their defensive arrogance with harsh words and condemnation?

How prideful is it to judge and kick others out of the family of God even only in our minds.

Do you remember as a kid getting mad when you follow the rules but other kids broke them and were not punished?

This question about women preaching in church makes me think of the side issue of women and men dressing modestly.

Yes we should, but will God No longer love us or that prositute if they come to church in the only clothes they own? Should we not love them and allow God to put in their hearts the desire to change? Shouldn't we be there to take them shopping or give them clothes if they ever get the courage to ask for help?

The passage about women not speaking and asking their husband questions at home make sense if you imagine loud whispers and demands for explanation in the crowd.can you imagine how distracting that would be?

I think women can teach and preach the basics of the Gospel but there are things only men can teach younger men. And there are things only older women can teach younger women.

Men need to show and teach younger men how to be husbands and fathers

Women need to teach younger women about menstrual cycles, pregnancy, breast feeding, cooking, etc.

Don't take scripture out of context. God has a plan.

The pastor is not the head of the church, Jesus Christ is. Therefore the head will always be male, we are but helpers and parts of His body.

+1

Adding to my previous post, we have to compare Scripture with Scripture and consider the context in which a certain passage was written.

Why would God make the woman as a comparable helper to the man and then not equip her with the tools and resources necessary to help him? Or simply forbid her from using them?

Why would He raise up women at various times to accomplish His plan? Someone might argue "well it was because there was no MAN who was able or willing to step up and do what needed to be done". Remember this is God we're talking about. He could've just as easily raised up men in the positions in which He did raise up women.

God's ways are not our ways, and His thoughts are higher than ours. And He knew full well, in light of what He intended the woman to be when He created her, what He had inspired Paul to write concerning women's conduct in the church.

"Let God be true, but every man a liar" - Romans 3:4

 

[JesusLives]

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Are you speaking to me? If so,yes. He passed away a few weeks ago. He was an American Eskimo named Polar.

Sorry to hear about Polar passing. He was an adorable little dog...I know you loved him to the moon and back...hugs.

 

[Mantvydas]

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Aries do you believe tha Christ will say to many depart from me you who work enikvity

 

[Ariel82]

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I don't spend time judging others walk. When I was younger, I fell in that trap and it lead to bitterness and resentment, pride and self righteousness.

Instead I focus on how I can live my life so my Father will tell me good job, come and rest my child.

I focus on loving all those around me and helping them remember God and His love.

If I see someone hurting themselves and others through their actions, I speak out of love to show them a different way and the consequences of their actions.

I count on their love and respect for me that they listen because we have developed a relationship of love.

I rarely rebuke strangers or correct their children. Normally I will pray for them and put my trust in Christ to help.

Therefore if you truly think someone is sinning and feel moved to speak, be sure first they know your love and pray to God and listen to see if that is what God wants you to do.

 

[kaylagrl]

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Sorry to hear about Polar passing. He was an adorable little dog...I know you loved him to the moon and back...hugs.

Thank you so much. Yes he was my best buddy. I was so glad I bred him a few years ago so I still have his daughter. I still have a little piece of him.

 

[slave]

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First off, I would like to hear your opinion of women in general on the planet earth. Not in view of any Scripture at this time yet. But your personal conclusion of what value you feel women play and to what affect they have in relationship to men. Then I will be better able to help you with all sorts of Scriptures!

Since you have not chosen to expound on your personal thoughts let me include some additional Scripture to expound on mine! First of all I get upset with people who take a part of truth in His Word and make it their own agenda. So, as a personal note I have fanned the flames of righteous anger just a touch, toward what I see as an agenda here, but I hope you can help me understand you better in this, perhaps,then, God can turn off the fan.

* Of course, the Bible teaches divinely ordained role distinctions between men and women- many of which are perfectly evident from the circumstances of creation alone. For example, woman have a unique and vital role in childbearing and the nurturing of little ones. Women themselves also have a particular need for support and protection, because physically they are 'weaker vessels' 1 Peter 3:7. Scripture establishes the proper order in the family and in the church accordingly, assigning the duties of headship and protection in the home to husbands, Eph. 5:23. and appointing men in the church to the teaching and leadership roles. 1 Tim. 2:11-15.

Yet I sense a need to express to you that women are by no means marginalized or relegated to any second-class status. The Bible teaches women are not only equals with men, Gal. 3:28, but are also set apart for special honor, 1 Peter 3:7. Husbands are commanded to love their wives sacrificially, as Christ loves the Church--even, if necessary, at the cost of their own lives, Eph. 5:25-31. The Bible acknowledges and celebrates the priceless value of a virtuous women. Thus, He exalted the position of womanhood itself.

It is no surprise to me therefore, that women became prominent in the ministry of the early Church, Acts 12:12-15; 1 Cor. 11:11-15. Even the Apostle Paul, sometimes falsely caricatured by critics of Scripture as a male chauvinist, regularly ministered alongside women, Phil. 4:3. He recognized and applauded their faithfulness and their giftedness, Romans 16:1-6; 2 Tim. 1:5.

So I again ask the question, yet unanswered ...."How do you personally feel is the worth of a women on this planet earth?" and "What is your agenda in outlining the point of indifferences?" I pray your message, by way of your answer , then, will hold the truth within it and that it will testify to my Spirit just such an allegiance to Gods will. Thank You brother!

 

[chancer]

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Are you speaking to me? If so,yes. He passed away a few weeks ago. He was an American Eskimo named Polar.

sorry to hear about your dog, He was very sweet

 

[phil112]

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1 Timothy 3:12

“Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.”

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The bible means what it says most everywhere but here. Christ told Paul what to say, but somehow either Paul got it wrong, or those men that were under guidance of the Holy Spirit writing it down got it wrong....or maybe it was the Holy Spirit Himself. Fear not, there are plenty of people here that will happily explain what Christ actually meant for us to understand and not the "legalistic" way they think the scriptures came out.
Now don't ask me who told them how it really is supposed to be because I have no clue and they never tell anyone their source. I figure Christ Himself must be coming to them in a vision at night, telling them what the word is supposed to say. I say that's a good thing, straightening out those serious scriptural errors. I guess it took 2000 years for someone to be born that Christ trusted enough to give the truth to.

 

[oldthennew]

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thank goodness, PHIL is still hear and a very precious presence.....

 

[kaylagrl]

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sorry to hear about your dog, He was very sweet

Thank you very much,he was my best buddy.

 

[Mantvydas]

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Christ choose 12 apostles and none of them is not women

 

[Mantvydas]

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[h=1]2 Timothy 3:16[/h]

“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:”

King James Version (KJV)​

 

[Mantvydas]

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It not Paul fantasy.It s word of God [h=1]Corinthians 14:37[/h]

“If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.”
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[Brother_Don]

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Christ choose 12 apostles and none of them is not women

No but it was a woman that found the grave empty, and sent to tell the others.

 

[Mantvydas]

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[h=1]1 Corinthians 2:15[/h]

“But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.”​

 

[Mantvydas]

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[h=3]2 Timothy
Chapter 4[/h]
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1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

 

[Mantvydas]

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judge for yourself but the think is that many will depart from Jesus in the day