Attack on Jerusalem

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Theres an Attack going on over Jerusalems capital

From the United Nations to the White House, people and institutions all over the planet
are hostile to Israel, to Jerusalem, and to the Jews historic connection to Jerusalem.

The war on the Jewishness of Jerusalem is intensifying and the UN and others are
trying to sever Israel’s ties to the holy city.


UNESCO Wants to Stop Archaeology in Ancient Jerusalem
https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/...ants-to-stop-archaeology-in-ancient-jerusalem

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even though The Temple Mount Sifting Project uncovers more treasures.
https://templemount.wordpress.com/

Israeli archeologists strike gold at Temple Mount
Israeli archeologists strike gold at Temple Mount - National News - Jerusalem Post
The Key to David's City



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An important panel at the United Nations Educational, Cultural and Scientific
Organization (UNESCO) on Wednesday morning approved a controversial
resolution that ignores Jewish and Christian ties to the Temple Mount.


Israeli politicians from across the political spectrum criticized the approval Wednesday
by a UNESCO panel of a controversial resolution that ignores Jewish and Christian
ties to the Temple Mount,
UNESCO vote ignoring Jewish ties to Temple Mount a 'blood libel,' says Herzog | The Times of Israel

In an oped for the Washington Times, Cruz took President Barack Obama to task for
allowing the resolution to be passed in the first place, slamming the president for putting
“his political legacy over the national security interests of the United States —
which would be a secure and sovereign Israel.”
America's missed UNESCO opportunity - Washington Times


UNESCO resolution is a 'disgrace to intelligent people,' says Temple Mount archeologist
UNESCO resolution is a 'disgrace to intelligent people,' says Temple Mount archeologist - Israel News - Jerusalem Post

America’s missed UNESCO opportunity-The United States should be leading
the charge against anti-Israel bias at the UN, not trying to fund it
America's missed UNESCO opportunity - Washington Times

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a little back history

On 29 November 1947, the United Nations General Assembly recommended
the adoption and implementation of the partition plan of Mandatory Palestine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council

On 14 May 1948, David Ben-Gurion, the Executive Head of the World Zionist
Organization and president of the Jewish Agency for Palestine, declared "the
establishment of a Jewish state in Eretz Israel, to be known as the State of Israel,"
a state independent upon the termination of the British Mandate for Palestine,

on 15 May 1948.Neighboring Arab armies invaded Palestine on the next day
and fought the Israeli forces. Israel has since fought several wars with neighboring
Arab states,in the course of which it has occupied the West Bank, Sinai Peninsula
(between 1967 and 1982), part of South Lebanon (between 1982 and 2000),
Gaza Strip and the Golan Heights.

It annexed portions of these territories, including East Jerusalem,
but the border with the West Bank is disputed.Israel has signed peace treaties with
Egypt and Jordan, but efforts to resolve the Israeli–Palestinian conflict have so far
not resulted in peace.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_David_Accords
a Framework for Peace in the Middle East

the Israeli-Arab peace process. The Jews gave up land for a piece of paper
The United States and Britain were both instrumental in pressuring Judah
to give the Sinai back to Egyptnow

Now the United States and Britain have both turned there backs on Jerusalem.

US Supreme Court: Jerusalem is Not Israel
https://unitedwithisrael.org/us-supreme-court-jerusalem-is-not-israel/

Report: Obama Threatened to Shoot Down Israeli Jets Attacking Iran
Report: Obama Threatened to Shoot Down Israeli Jets Attacking Iran

-Obama who supports Iran , who calls Israel little satan and us big satan.

The Jews have also given Gaza, Jericho, Bethlehem and other West Bank
areas back to the Palestinians. those areas were won in a war where the Arabs
were trying to annihilate the Jews

In 2005, Israel evacuated the 9,000 Jewish residents of the Gaza Strip and
turned the area completely over to the Palestinians. There has been conflict
over jerusalam ever since,there has never been true piece in its history


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the legal and diplomatic status of Jerusalem

There is significant disagreement in the international community on the legal
and diplomatic status of Jerusalem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positions_on_Jerusalem

Jerusalem is one of the key issues in the Israeli–Palestinian peace process.
Both Israelis and the Palestinians want it as their capital.[5]

The European Union has stated that Jerusalem's status is that of corpus separatum.[6][7]

The United Nations considers East Jerusalem to be occupied Palestinian territory.[24][25]
It envisions Jerusalem eventually becoming the capital of two states, Israel and Palestine.[26]


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also throw in the mix is the Vaticans claims to the Holy land.

Israel expressed disappointment Wednesday at the Vatican’s announcement that
it reached the outline of an agreement with the Palestinians and at the Holy See’s
use of the term “State of Palestine” for the first time in an official document.
Israel 'disappointed' Vatican reached agreement recognizing Palestinian state - Arab-Israeli Conflict - Jerusalem Post


In December 2009, for example, Twal and other high-ranking Catholic officials released an overtly anti-Israel, anti-Jewish document detailing the “injustices” against Palestinians by Israel. In it, the Catholic officials implored the international community to “stand by the Palestinian people who have faced oppression, displacement, suffering and clear apartheid for more than six decades.” There was no recognition of the multiple suicide attacks on innocent Jews, or the thousands of missiles launched at Israeli schools, homes and hospitals.

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If you know your history, such effusive support of the Palestinian cause—to the point
of ceding Jerusalem to be the capital of a Palestinian nation—is more than a little odd.

Pope Urban ii, the man who set off the Crusades in the Middle Ages

Inspired by Urban’s call to arms and intent on earning “salvation,” tens of thousands of Europeans set out for Jerusalem. In the First Crusade alone, Catholic crusaders slaughtered some 70,000 Jews and Arabs in pursuit of their goal to pry Jerusalem from the “infidel.” The First Crusade was followed a few decades later by another, then another, then another—each an attempt to purge the Holy Land of Muslims.

History is clear. The Vatican has never supported Muslim control of Jerusalem!

So why is it doing so now?

Jerusalem is as important to the Vatican as it is to Jews and Muslims. For Catholics,
Jerusalem is the birthplace of Christianity and the setting of many important biblical
events. The Holy City, as Catholic dogma states, is its universal headquarters.

Does anyone really think the Vatican is genuinely interested in ceding control
of these sites to Muslims? It’s important to keep an eye on Jerusalem,
and especially on the Vatican’s involvement in the city


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The Jews had to get there capital back for this end time event to happen,

For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken,
and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and( half of the city) shall go forth
into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

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UN says Israel, not Iran, North Korea or Syria worst violator of human rights
UN says Israel, not Iran, North Korea or Syria worst violator of human rights | Fox News


Israel singled out at UN for women’s right violations
Israel singled out at UN for women's right violations | The Times of Israel

UN: Israel #1 Violator of Women’s Rights

- Israel does not deserve this label.

 

[OneFaith]

Physical Jerusalem are no longer God's people. They are just like any other nation in the world today. God's people are no longer so by physical means (a husband's will) but are born of God spiritually. (John chapter one)

 

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Jeremiah 33:5 says God has hid His face from Jerusalem.
But God also says in Zechariah 1:17 that He “shall yet choose Jerusalem.”
When He does, He is going to make this city the capital of the world .

Israelis today face the greatest threat to their existence—“nuclear weapons
in the hands of apocalyptic mullahs publicly pledged to Israel’s annihilation

Zechariah 12:3 says, “[A]ll that burden themselves with [Jerusalem] shall be
cut in pieces.” God says anyone who takes on the responsibility to control
His city that He will yet choose is going to be “cut in pieces”!

“Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in
the midst of thee. For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle;
and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished;
and half of the city shall go forth into captivity” (Zechariah 14:1-2).


That’s the same half that the Arabs had until 1967, when the Jews conquered it.
It is still inhabited mostly by Arabs. The Bible prophesied not only that the Jews
would take East Jerusalem, but also that the Arabs are about to take it back.


After half of Jerusalem falls to the Arabs, it will be like dominoes falling
one after the other: one biblically prophesied event after another.

Matthew 24:15-16 also prophesy about Jerusalem’s immediate future:

“When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of
by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place [Jerusalem], (whoso readeth,
let him understand Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains.”


The Bible defines that “abomination of desolation”
as armies surrounding Jerusalem (Luke 21:20-22).

 

[OneFaith]

Yes God will choose Jerusalem- Spiritual Jerusalem- those adopted through baptism- not physical means. He says physical jews can be grafted BACK into the vine (also through baptism). One of the three promises to Abraham is that all nationalities will have the ability to become children of God. In John chapter one, Jesus came to His own people, but His own people would not receive Him- so He switched to adoption. No longer are you God's people by a husband's will (physically born), but are born of God spiritually (baptism). The new Jerusalem is spiritual not physical Jews.

 

[mpaper345]

Yes God will choose Jerusalem- Spiritual Jerusalem- those adopted through baptism- not physical means. He says physical jews can be grafted BACK into the vine (also through baptism). One of the three promises to Abraham is that all nationalities will have the ability to become children of God. In John chapter one, Jesus came to His own people, but His own people would not receive Him- so He switched to adoption. No longer are you God's people by a husband's will (physically born), but are born of God spiritually (baptism). The new Jerusalem is spiritual not physical Jews.

The New Jerusalem cannot be physical Jews,for all Jews and Gentiles,are in glorified bodies,and the former earth shall not be remembered,or come to mind,for it is associated with sin and rebellion.

When the Bible says all Israel shall be saved,is the kingdom restored to them in the millennial reign of Christ,which God will save Israel at the battle of Armageddon,which God said He is going to gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle,then the LORD shall go forth and fight against the nations like He did in the day of old,and when they attack Israel the LORD my God shall come,and all the saints with Him(Zechariah 14).

 

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In John chapter one, Jesus came to His own people, but His own people
would not receive Him -so He switched to adoption.

As a direct descendant of King David, of the tribe of Judah, Jesus had been born in a Jewish
colony that was subordinate to the Roman Empire. “He came unto his own,” it says in John 1:11,
“and his own received him not.”

The Jews rejected Jesus and so He turned to the Gentiles instead, some assume.
But he didn’t! Notice what Jesus said to a Gentile woman in Matthew 15:24:

“I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel”

Jesus said His mission was to reach the house of Israel (not the house of Judah)
and that Israel’s identity (obviously not Judah’s) had become lost.

How then—since Christ’s life was cut short soon after He made that statement—
was that divine mission fulfilled? Read it yourself in Matthew 10:5-6.

In that account, Jesus commanded His disciples not to preach the gospel in Gentile
regions (Paul would take care of that—see Acts 18:6),

but to go instead to the “lost sheep” of the house of Israel.

In Jesus’s stead, all the original apostles were sent to the lost sheep of Israel.
This is why, after Acts 11, you read very little about the original 12.
Once they went to the lost sheep of Israel, history lost sight of them.


“James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which
are scattered abroad, greeting.” James didn’t even address the Gentiles.

Nor is his letter exclusively directed at the house of Judah. His target audience
was primarily the tribes of Israel that had been “scattered abroad” during their
Assyrian captivity eight centuries earlier!

 

[OneFaith]

You are referring back to sequence. 1- Christ came to His own- this is why in the stage of sequence He told the woman that. 2- In this sequence His own would not receive Him. He did not switch to adoption yet. 3- Now in this sequence He switches to adoption by purchasing and establishing His church, and the way into it. Christ died, and His church was established at pentacost in the book of Acts. The church is the kingdom. Christ gave Peter the spiritual keys to the kingdom- which are believe, repent, be baptized (Acts 2:38).

John was going back and telling what happened- he even went back as far as Christ was in the beginning before creation. In that sequence the woman that He spoke to didn't even exist yet. You are taking things out of sequence. When Christ said that to her He had not yet switched to adoption. I am now Abraham's seed through the adoption of baptism by the miracle of God, but before that took place I was not His people, but now I am.

 

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The church is the kingdom.
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that would conflict with this still future bible verse
And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying,

The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord,
and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

 

[posthuman]

I am now Abraham's seed through the adoption of baptism by the miracle of God, but before that took place I was not His people, but now I am.

Abraham was not, is not an Israelite.

but the promises are through Isaac, not Ismael, and the inheritance, yes, through Jacob.

 

[OneFaith]

Abraham was not, is not an Israelite.

but the promises are through Isaac, not Ismael, and the inheritance, yes, through Jacob.

Jacobs name was changed to Israel, his sons became the tribes of Israel, I know. All of them came from Abraham even though the name Israel came later. Jews came from Judah- who comes from Israel (Jacob)- who comes from Abraham. I know

 

[OneFaith]

that would conflict with this still future bible verse
And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying,

The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord,
and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

No it doesn't, because Gods people now come from all nations. Not everyone in all nations are God's people, but God has people in every nationality as per the promise to Abraham.

Jesus will not step foot back on this earth, we will rise to meet Him in the sky.

(I hope not to sound argumentative, my intention is to share truth with Christian love).

 

[Ahwatukee]

Yes God will choose Jerusalem- Spiritual Jerusalem- those adopted through baptism- not physical means. He says physical jews can be grafted BACK into the vine (also through baptism). One of the three promises to Abraham is that all nationalities will have the ability to become children of God. In John chapter one, Jesus came to His own people, but His own people would not receive Him- so He switched to adoption. No longer are you God's people by a husband's will (physically born), but are born of God spiritually (baptism). The new Jerusalem is spiritual not physical Jews.

Hello OneFaith,

God is not done with literal Israel, as there are still prophesies that are yet to be fulfilled, namely that last seven years of the decree of seventy sevens. In Rev.12, Israel is symbolized as "the woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and wearing a crown of twelve stars. According to Jacob in Gen.37:9-10, the sun is symbolic for himself, the moon his wives and the eleven stars are eleven of the twelve tribes, with Joseph being the twelvth. The woman gives birth to the male child, which is a collective name for the 144,000 that come out of the twelve tribes of Israel. At the middle of that last seven years, the abomination will be set up, which will cause the woman to flee out into the desert, where she will be cared for by God for 1260 days, which is that last 3 1/2 years of the seven year period, also known as the great tribulation.

It is important to understand that Israel and the church are two separate entities. When the Anointed One/Messiah was cut off/crucified, God paused that last seven years with Israel and began to build his church, which is still in process. Once the church has been completed, then the Lord will appear and gather the church ending the church period. Following that God will pick up where he left off with that last seven years, which will be initiated by that ruler/antichrist establishing his seven year covenant, fulfilling that last seven years, with Jesus returning sometime after the end of that seven to end the age and establish his millennial kingdom.

 

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There is no such thing as a "spiritual Israel". We are told the nations will conspire to divide His land and His people. There is no prophecy that I have seen that says God will leave Israel forever.

He is gathering sheep from outside the flock as well, but the Jews are still His chosen people. Even Paul said that for now their hearts are hardened against Him, but they wont always be.

Romans 11:25-32
25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and in this way all Israel will be saved. As it is written:
“The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27 And this is my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”

28 As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, 29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable. 30 Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience, 31 so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you. 32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

 

[Ahwatukee]

There is no such thing as a "spiritual Israel". We are told the nations will conspire to divide His land and His people. There is no prophecy that I have seen that says God will leave Israel forever.

He is gathering sheep from outside the flock as well, but the Jews are still His chosen people. Even Paul said that for now their hearts are hardened against Him, but they wont always be.

Romans 11:25-32
25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and in this way all Israel will be saved. As it is written:
“The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27 And this is my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”

28 As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, 29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable. 30 Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience, 31 so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you. 32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

Morning Yeraza,

Yeah, this is just more replacement theology, which is very deceiving because it infers the church as being spiritual Israel and that we take on all of Israel's blessings, etc.

 

[Dan_473]

'There's an Attack going on over Jerusalems capital'

I think these kinds of things are a fulfilment of prophecy

EZEKIEL 20:23 Moreover, I swore to them in the wilderness that I would scatter them among the nations and disperse them through the countries

 

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Jesus will not step foot back on this earth, we will rise to meet Him in the sky.

the bible says

Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
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we shall inherit the earth, not the sky.


Zechariah 14:4 (KJV)

And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem
on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and
toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall
remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.​

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[valiant]

Yeah, this is just more replacement theology, which is very deceiving because it infers the church as being spiritual Israel and that we take on all of Israel's blessings, etc.

So Israel was not meant to be spiritual?

You have it all wrong. God was looking all the way through the OT for a spiritual Israel. And the elect of Israel, the remnant, were the spiritual Israel.

When Jesus came He gathered around Himself spiritual Israel, those who believed on Him and followed Him. They were His congregation/church (Matt 16.18). He commanded His apostles to gather spiritual Israel out of physical Israel. Within 5 years of His death they formed a good proportion of Israel.

But then God revealed that they were to include Gentiles in that number (Acts 10). Israel had always done so. They were called proselytes. So Gentile proselytes became members of Israel AS THEY HAD ALWAYS DONE. That is why many argued that they must be circumcised (Acts 15.1). But Paul argued that they were already circumcised with the circumcision of Christ (Col 2.11). He was thus agreeing that they had become members of Israel.

Israel today is made up of ALL BELIEVERS in the Messiah. They are NOT a replacement of Israel. They joined Israel by adoption (Ex12.48; Deut 23). They are the genuine true believing Israel (Rom 11.12-24). Unbelieving Israel is no longer Israel as far as God is concerned.

The same is true of Jerusalem. Jerusalem as accepted by God is now in Heaven (Gal 4.20 ff; Heb 12.22; Revelation), Earthly Jerusalem was rejected for rejection of its Messiah. It has no future in God's eyes except as a rebel capital (Gal 4.20 ff).

This will not be acceptable to those who follow Darby and his cronies with their wild inventions, But it is the Scriptural position.

 

[Hizikyah]

UN says Israel, not Iran, North Korea or Syria worst violator of human rights
UN says Israel, not Iran, North Korea or Syria worst violator of human rights | Fox News


Israel singled out at UN for women’s right violations
Israel singled out at UN for women's right violations | The Times of Israel

UN: Israel #1 Violator of Women’s Rights

- Israel does not deserve this label.

[h=1]Why one of the world’s worst human rights offenders is leading a U.N. human rights panel[/h]
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...offenders-is-leading-a-un-human-rights-panel/



[h=1]UN: Suspend Saudi Arabia from Human Rights Council[/h]https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/06/29/un-suspend-saudi-arabia-human-rights-council

While they may have been "suspended" publically, seems their plans and motives still rule the day...

 

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As ridiculous as it is to place some of the world’s most notorious and unapologetic violators
of human rights in charge of the UN’s Human Rights Council, it is far from the first time the
organization has made such a childish decision.


Like Back in 2007, Iran—the defiant nation that brags about how it deceives the international
community regarding its nuclear weapons program—was appointed vice chairman of the
UN Disarmament Commission. The same Iran that is the world’s number one sponsor of terrorism

The list of ridiculous UN appointments and elections could go on. Since the organization is wracked
by corruption, it has routinely given key positions to the most ludicrous candidates available.


The biggest failure by far though is that the UN has not accomplished
its stated purpose: keeping the peace


Only Christ can usher in peace to this world filled with war,when He returns