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There were a few that seven was on..

What does the word of Faith movement teach PG 14 #265-280 is the discussion

She denies being Lauren.

Sorry DC and the rest.. I'm done
stonesoffire said:
I did too. I had the wrong thread. Try the word of faith thread.
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dcontroversal said:
AMEN....I cannot get past saved to the uttermost, kept by the POWER of GOD, He begins and finishes our faith and will complete the work HE BEGAN.......to say one can walk away lost denies all of the above and negates the power of God to keep us.
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At least we have one who is staying on topic.. yay for dcon. :)
 
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Zi said:
There were a few that seven was on..

What does the word of Faith movement teach PG 14 #265-280 is the discussion

She denies being Lauren.

Sorry DC and the rest.. I'm done
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No, she didn't. She just didn't say she wasn't. She said the mods know who she is.

She slipped up when she mentioned the thread on Jewish faith. That was Lauren and I confronted her.

Now, can we leave this drop.
 
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MattforJesus said:
The angels had a choice,because if that was not true,Lucifer would of never been able to rebel.

Nobody tempted Lucifer,but it came from him,which he was created perfect in his ways,until iniquity was found in him.

If the angels had a choice,then why not people having a choice,and that is because God's kingdom is love.

God said for the bishops to not get lifted up in pride,or else they will fall in to the same condemnation of the devil,and obviously the bishops would be saved initially if they did get lifted up in pride,and gives a warning to them,but if they can never fall why the warning.

Why the warnings in the Bible if it is not possible that the saints can fall if they do not take care to do right.

So that means that sin does affect our relationship with God,and a person that was saved can fall,and be back in an unsaved position if they do not give heed to the truth.

In Revelation Jesus addressed one Church that they left their first love,and were fallen,and to repent,and do the first works,or Jesus would go against them,and another Church Jesus did not find their works perfect before God,and to repent,or Jesus would go against them.

If a person does not continue in the goodness of God,they will be cut off.

The Lord knows them that are His,having this Seal,that those the name the name of Christ depart from iniquity,and awake to righteousness,and sin not,but not all have the knowledge of God,and Paul speaks that to their shame,and do not depart from the living God by the deceitfulness of sin.

But there are millions of people that claim Christ,and say they cannot fall,that live worldly,and hold unto sin,and think they are alright with God,which you can observe them in society,that heap money,and material things to themselves,and enjoy worldliness,while there are people in need,catering to their lusts,and wants,and more time is for their life than the kingdom of God,which they are lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God.

2Pe 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
2Pe 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
2Pe 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

These people were once saved for they escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ,but they went back to enjoying the things of the world,and left the holy commandment delivered unto them.

But some that confessed Christ,and say they cannot fall,did not even go that far as to get rid of all worldliness to begin with,but they thought they were alright despite their sins.

Jesus said thy will be done on earth,as it is in heaven,and the angels are not in heaven sinning,and the ones that did are no longer there,so it is on earth,that if a person that claims Christ,but wants to hold unto sin thinking they are alright with God,will fall in to the same condemnation of the devil,and the Bible gives warnings that a saint can fall if they do not take heed to do what it right.

They say faith alone,and all they have to do is confess Christ,for that is what the Bible says,but do not understand the conditions that go along with them,which it should be a given that the conditions are to abstain from sin by the Spirit,and do works of the Spirit,which the Bible says it is so.

Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling,and stop playing around,for you have responsibility to do what is right,for the Spirit will not twist your arm to live for God,and some do not make the grade because they do not want to get rid of the worldly ways.

1Co 9:26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:
1Co 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

Castaway
adokimos
ad-ok'-ee-mos
From G1 (as a negative particle) and G1384; unapproved, that is, rejected; by implication worthless (literally or morally): - castaway, rejected, reprobate.
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To compare humans to angels is a major error and has no practical application when applied unto saved men

Jesus did not come and die for the angels nor do they get a chance at eternal redemption and or to be saved to the uttermost and kept by he power of GOD

Paul's use of castaway does not mean to lose salvation, but rather to be unusable as applied unto his ministry....

Your lack of contextual application, erroneous comparison of angels and men and refusal to acknowledge verb tense and the very verbiage INSPIRED by God to describe our salvation, justification, sanctification, sealing etc. has led you down a path of error!
 
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Zi said:
There were a few that seven was on..

What does the word of Faith movement teach PG 14 #265-280 is the discussion

She denies being Lauren.

Sorry DC and the rest.. I'm done
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No need to apologize to me friend............
 
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preacher4truth said:
Our dog prefers Cheez Whiz. :D
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Good stuff.....remember Chicken in a Trisket crackers....was that there name? hahahhaha excellent combo....

When I had a dog I would stick pill down his throat and hold his mouth shut and he would swallow it without any PB or Cheese...... ;)
 
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You suggested the look up in the thread.. I said what it said as if you wanted to know.. geez.. for the record 276? she flat denies.. other threads idk. Enjoy your evening
stonesoffire said:
No, she didn't. She just didn't say she wasn't. She said the mods know who she is.

She slipped up when she mentioned the thread on Jewish faith. That was Lauren and I confronted her.

Now, can we leave this drop.
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Zi, I knew Ember (LaurenTM) pretty well when she was here. 7seasrekeyed is NOT Lauren. She wasn't constantly sarcastic in posts, and she usually posted in paragraphs.. Not in sentences like

This one.

And this one too..

Don't forget this one..

THAT format of posting is what Fran would do. Whether 7seas is Fran or not, I dunno. I DO know that she isn't LaurenTM.. :) She never posted as frequently as 7seasrk has been, either..


Zi said:
There were a few that seven was on..

What does the word of Faith movement teach PG 14 #265-280 is the discussion

She denies being Lauren.

Sorry DC and the rest.. I'm done
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1Ti 3:1 This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
1Ti 3:6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
1Ti 3:7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

The point is if a person claims Christ,but does not do what is right,which the Bible gives warnings to them,then they will have the same fate as the devil.

The Bible says a person that was saved can fall away,and that they can go back to the old ways,and be lost,and any person that puts their hand to the plough,which means they started living for God,looking back,is not fit for the kingdom of God.
 
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Meggido said:
Miniature and toy Dachshunds are one of the best breeds in the world...we have 2 long haired red ones
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they are yet another wonderful pet, as long as we remember to always put God first...
 
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Post 278

She came after me in that thread on Jewish beliefs. That was Lauren.
 
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