Rev 17, Who is the Woman? Jerusalem Vs Rome
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Hi All,
The Great Deception
the khazarian conspiracy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oeR1GYhNak&t=59s
Most of the Jews in Israel are not Hebrew but Khazars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH7ti2B8EPc&list=RDUH7ti2B8EPc#t=55
The DNA of the Ashkenazim account for over 90% of Jewry
DNA OF KHAZARS- “In 10 years there will be no Israel.
DNA OF KHAZARS- "In 10 years there will be no Israel."
Publications showing the Jews to be Khazars and Not Israelites
https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jews.htm
The Evil of Zionism Exposed by Jews
https://theevilofzionismexposedbyje...e-said-about-the-zionist-new-world-order.html
Communism is a Jewish invention. The leaders such as Stalin and Lenin were Jews. The Federal reserve manipulates the money supply and causes crashes. This is an unconstitutional Jewish entity and has nothing to do with the federal government. They run the press, the pharmaceutical and medical industry. They control the politicians, except maybe for Trump. The Zionist bankers brought on WW1, WW2, the French revolution and the American Revolution. Even though the Khazars are not true Hebrews, they have taken on the name of Israel, taken over that land in the middle east, adopted some of the language and some of the culture. Thus the prophecies fall of doom fall on them.
The Zionist/Jewish Role in the New World Order.
https://sites.google.com/site/911newworldorderfiles/quotesonzionism
Matt 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves
The Great Deception
the khazarian conspiracy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oeR1GYhNak&t=59s
Most of the Jews in Israel are not Hebrew but Khazars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH7ti2B8EPc&list=RDUH7ti2B8EPc#t=55
The DNA of the Ashkenazim account for over 90% of Jewry
DNA OF KHAZARS- “In 10 years there will be no Israel.
DNA OF KHAZARS- "In 10 years there will be no Israel."
Publications showing the Jews to be Khazars and Not Israelites
https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jews.htm
The Evil of Zionism Exposed by Jews
https://theevilofzionismexposedbyje...e-said-about-the-zionist-new-world-order.html
Communism is a Jewish invention. The leaders such as Stalin and Lenin were Jews. The Federal reserve manipulates the money supply and causes crashes. This is an unconstitutional Jewish entity and has nothing to do with the federal government. They run the press, the pharmaceutical and medical industry. They control the politicians, except maybe for Trump. The Zionist bankers brought on WW1, WW2, the French revolution and the American Revolution. Even though the Khazars are not true Hebrews, they have taken on the name of Israel, taken over that land in the middle east, adopted some of the language and some of the culture. Thus the prophecies fall of doom fall on them.
The Zionist/Jewish Role in the New World Order.
https://sites.google.com/site/911newworldorderfiles/quotesonzionism
Matt 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves
The woman is the harlot, Babylon, Jerusalem. The beast is Rome represented in scarlet. The color scarlet may be a representation of the sinful character of the beast. God has used this imagery in the past to describe the sinful conditions of Judah and Jerusalem in Isaiah 1:18. It may also be used to depict royalty.
The woman was beautifully adorned in royal apparel.
Ezekiel 16:10-14, “I also clothed you with embroidered cloth and put sandals of porpoise skin on your feet; and I wrapped you with fine linen and covered you with silk. “I adorned you with ornaments, put bracelets on your hands and a necklace around your neck. “I also put a ring in your nostril, earrings in your ears and a beautiful crown on your head. “Thus you were adorned with gold and silver, and your dress was of fine linen, silk and embroidered cloth. You ate fine flour, honey and oil; so you were exceedingly beautiful and advanced to royalty. “Then your fame went forth among the nations on account of your beauty, for it was perfect because of My splendor which I bestowed on you,” declares the Lord GOD.”
Her cup was full of abominations of unclean things and immorality, Read Ezekiel 16:15-43 and see how God described the harlotry of ancient Israel. There was no difference between the behavior of ancient Israel and Israel of the first century and the fate of both were the same.
Her name is “BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.” She is the source of every type of unclean behavior.
She is a murderous woman. She is a destroyer of the saints. More than that, she had acquired an unrelenting appetite for destroying those whom God had sent to her. Killing the saints and the prophets had become an intoxicating addiction. “I saw the woman drunk with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus.”
“Therefore, behold, I am sending you prophets and wise men and scribes; some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city, so that upon you may fall the guilt of all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, the son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. “Truly I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation. “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling. “Behold, your house is being left to you desolate!” Matthew 23:34-38.
The woman was beautifully adorned in royal apparel.
Ezekiel 16:10-14, “I also clothed you with embroidered cloth and put sandals of porpoise skin on your feet; and I wrapped you with fine linen and covered you with silk. “I adorned you with ornaments, put bracelets on your hands and a necklace around your neck. “I also put a ring in your nostril, earrings in your ears and a beautiful crown on your head. “Thus you were adorned with gold and silver, and your dress was of fine linen, silk and embroidered cloth. You ate fine flour, honey and oil; so you were exceedingly beautiful and advanced to royalty. “Then your fame went forth among the nations on account of your beauty, for it was perfect because of My splendor which I bestowed on you,” declares the Lord GOD.”
Her cup was full of abominations of unclean things and immorality, Read Ezekiel 16:15-43 and see how God described the harlotry of ancient Israel. There was no difference between the behavior of ancient Israel and Israel of the first century and the fate of both were the same.
Her name is “BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.” She is the source of every type of unclean behavior.
She is a murderous woman. She is a destroyer of the saints. More than that, she had acquired an unrelenting appetite for destroying those whom God had sent to her. Killing the saints and the prophets had become an intoxicating addiction. “I saw the woman drunk with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus.”
“Therefore, behold, I am sending you prophets and wise men and scribes; some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city, so that upon you may fall the guilt of all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, the son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. “Truly I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation. “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling. “Behold, your house is being left to you desolate!” Matthew 23:34-38.
First, to know who the woman is ridding, we need to id. [the beast]
Lets start with The beast in Revelation 13 and work backwards.
In the vision he saw “a beast rise up out of the sea,
having seven heads and ten horns,
and upon his horns ten crowns,
and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
And the beast which I saw [was like] unto a leopard,
and his feet [were as] the feet of a bear,
and his mouth [as the] mouth of a lion:
and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority”
(Revelation 13:1-2). For this description will help identify the beast.
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In Daniel 7, we find exactly these same symbols described.
Here again are the beasts, the seven heads, the 10 horns,
and here also is the lion, the bear and the leopard.
And here in Daniel the Bible tells us what these symbols represent.
God had given Daniel understanding in dreams and visions (Daniel 1:17).
a dream and a vision (Daniel 7:1) in which he saw four great beasts (verse 3)
1In the third year of the reign of (Jehoiakim) king of Judah
came (Nebuchadnezzar) king of (Babylon) unto Jerusalem, and besieged it.
2And the Lord gave Jehoiakim king of Judah into his hand, with part of the vessels
of the house of God: which he carried into the land of (Shinar)
as in Revelation, the beasts came up out of [the sea].
[out of the seas] = populations and multitudes of people from the world.
3And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.
The first was like a “lion” (verse 4),
the second was like a “bear” (verse 5),
the third like a “leopard” (verse 6),
and the fourth was so dreadful and terrible it could not be compared
to any wild beast known to inhabit the Earth! (verse 7).
- "having seven heads and ten horns" ,the seven "heads"
Now there was only [one head] described on the lion, [one] for the bear,
[one] for the fourth beast —but the third beast, the leopard, had [four heads]
—thus making seven heads in all!
And out of this great and dreadful fourth beast grew 10 horns!
“These great [beasts], which are four, are [four kings], which shall arise
out of the earth,” is the interpretation of verse 17.
-And the word king is synonymous with kingdom, and used only in the sense
that the king represents the kingdom over which he rules, for in verse 23 we read,
“The fourth beast shall be the fourth [kingdom] upon the earth .…” Notice also
the word kingdom is used to explain the beasts in verses 18, 22, 24 and 27.
-the “horns”
“And the ten [horns] out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise .…”
Notice the 10 horns, or 10 succeeding kingdoms or governments,
come out of a kingdom, not out of a man, or a superman. these 10 horns are 10
succeeding kingdoms growing out of the fourth kingdom, which was to rule the Earth!
-Daniel 2 Identification of the Kingdoms
These same four world-ruling Gentile kingdoms are described in the second chapter of Daniel.
King Nebuchadnezzar of the Chaldean Empire, who had taken the Jews captive, had a dream,
the meaning of which God revealed to Daniel.
The king saw a great image. Its head was of gold, its breast and arms of silver, its belly
and thighs of brass, its legs of iron and its feet and toes were part iron and part clay.
Finally, a stone, not in men’s hands, but supernaturally, smote the image upon his feet and toes.
It was broken in pieces and was blown away like chaff. Then the stone that smashed it became
a great mountain and filled the whole Earth.
“This,” Daniel says, beginning verse 36, “is the dream;
and we will tell the interpretation thereof before the king.”
“… Thou art this head of gold. And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee,
and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.
And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and
subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise”
-the stone smashing the image at its toes is found in the 44th verse:
“And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never
be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces
and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever.”
The Stone is Christ and His world-ruling Kingdom. The interpretation of the stone is given many
places in the Bible. “Jesus Christ of Nazareth … is the stone which was set at nought of you
builders, which is become the head of the corner” (Acts 4:10-11).
And so we see that here are four universal world-ruling Gentile kingdoms.
They begin with the Chaldean Empire, which took the Jews captive to Babylon.
-God had promised ancient Israel to be His nation if they obeyed and faithful, they would
grow into a multitude of nations—or an empire—that would dominate the entire Earth.
But, for disobedience they would have to be taken captive by Gentile nations, the world’s
first empire, God revealed through Daniel in chapter 2, it was God who had turned world
dominion over to this succession of Gentile empires.
-The Beasts
The first was Nebuchadnezzar’s kingdom, the Chaldean Empire, called “Babylon”
after the name of its capital city, 625-539 b.c.
37Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God of heaven
hath given thee (a kingdom), power, and strength, and glory.
38And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of
the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made (thee ruler over them all).
(Thou) art this head of gold.
#1 head of gold. Chaldean Empire. (626 BC-539 b.c)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Babylonian_Empire
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The second kingdom, which followed, then, we know from history, was the Persian Empire,
558-330 b.c., often called Medo-Persia, composed of Medes and Persians.
39And (after thee) shall arise another kingdom (inferior to thee),
and another third kingdom of brass, which shall (bear rule over all the earth).
-Daniel 5 , Belshazzar, Nebuchadnezzars son is now king.
27TEKEL; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting.
28PERES; Thy kingdom is divided, and (given) to (the Medes and Persians).
31And (Darius) the Median took the kingdom, being about threescore and two years old.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darius_the_Mede
#2 breast and arms of silver -Medo-Persian Empire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achaemenid_Empire
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the third world kingdom was Greece, or Macedonia under Alexander the Great, who conquered
the great Persian Empire 333-330 b.c. But Alexander lived only a short year after his swift
conquest, and his [four generals divided] his vast empire into four regions:
Macedonia and Greece, Thrace and Western Asia, Syria and territory east to the Indus river,
and Egypt. So these were the [four heads] of the third beast of Daniel 7.
And the fourth kingdom, which, developing from Rome, spread out and gradually absorbed
one after another of these four divisions—“dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly,”
was the Roman Empire (31 b.c. to a.d. 476).
It had absorbed all the others, occupied all their territory, was greater and stronger than all.
The royal splendor of ancient Babylon, thus having the head—the strongest part of the lion.
It had all the massiveness and powerful army of the Persian Empire symbolized by the legs,
The swiftness, the cunning, the cruelty of Alexander’s army, symbolized by the leopard.
The fourth beast was unlike any wild beast of the Earth. stronger, greater, more terrible any.
-And so John, in Revelation 13, sees, not four beasts, but one beast.
Not a leopard, but like a leopard—possessing all its cunning, cruelty and speed.
But it also possessed the dominant characteristics of the two other most powerful beasts
—the feet of a bear, and the mouth of a lion. Daniel’s fourth beast, the Roman Empire,
had absorbed and therefore it included the three beasts before it.
Thus it included all seven heads. And John’s beast also has seven heads. It was Daniel’s
fourth beast, only, which had 10 horns, and John’s beast has 10 horns.
-And so, if we are willing to be guided solely by the Bible description of this “beast” and to let
the Bible interpret the symbols used to describe it, we come to the inevitable conclusion that
the beast of Revelation 13 is the Roman Empire, of 31 b.c. to a.d. 476!
Nebuchadnezzar’s image, by the two legs, describes the two divisions of the Roman Empire,
after a.d. 330: West, with capital at Rome, and East, with capital at Constantinople.
John also pictures this beast, not as a church or as an individual man, but as a powerful government
having a great army. For they worshiped the beast by saying, “Who is able to make war with him?”
-the Horns of the fourth beast of Daniel 7 and of the beast of Revelation 13.
The 10 horns symbolize the same thing—10 stages of government continuing out of the Roman
Empire. The 10 horns “out of this kingdom [the fourth—the Roman Empire, 31 b.c. to a.d. 476]
are ten kings that shall arise .
And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven
[not in heaven], shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High …” Daniel 7:24, 27
The 10 horns, then, are 10 kingdoms to arise out of the fourth kingdom, the Roman Empire.
These kings, also called kingdoms, continue from a.d. 476 until the time when the stone,
Christ and His Kingdom, smashes the image on its toes, and the kingdom is given to the saints.
the kingdoms represented by the horns are successive, not contemporaneous.
We know the beast was the Roman empire, but now we have to see what happened
after the Rome was dealt a deadly wound, and the 10 kingdoms after to fill in history.
Lets start with The beast in Revelation 13 and work backwards.
In the vision he saw “a beast rise up out of the sea,
having seven heads and ten horns,
and upon his horns ten crowns,
and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
And the beast which I saw [was like] unto a leopard,
and his feet [were as] the feet of a bear,
and his mouth [as the] mouth of a lion:
and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority”
(Revelation 13:1-2). For this description will help identify the beast.
-
In Daniel 7, we find exactly these same symbols described.
Here again are the beasts, the seven heads, the 10 horns,
and here also is the lion, the bear and the leopard.
And here in Daniel the Bible tells us what these symbols represent.
God had given Daniel understanding in dreams and visions (Daniel 1:17).
a dream and a vision (Daniel 7:1) in which he saw four great beasts (verse 3)
1In the third year of the reign of (Jehoiakim) king of Judah
came (Nebuchadnezzar) king of (Babylon) unto Jerusalem, and besieged it.
2And the Lord gave Jehoiakim king of Judah into his hand, with part of the vessels
of the house of God: which he carried into the land of (Shinar)
as in Revelation, the beasts came up out of [the sea].
[out of the seas] = populations and multitudes of people from the world.
3And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.
The first was like a “lion” (verse 4),
the second was like a “bear” (verse 5),
the third like a “leopard” (verse 6),
and the fourth was so dreadful and terrible it could not be compared
to any wild beast known to inhabit the Earth! (verse 7).
- "having seven heads and ten horns" ,the seven "heads"
Now there was only [one head] described on the lion, [one] for the bear,
[one] for the fourth beast —but the third beast, the leopard, had [four heads]
—thus making seven heads in all!
And out of this great and dreadful fourth beast grew 10 horns!
“These great [beasts], which are four, are [four kings], which shall arise
out of the earth,” is the interpretation of verse 17.
-And the word king is synonymous with kingdom, and used only in the sense
that the king represents the kingdom over which he rules, for in verse 23 we read,
“The fourth beast shall be the fourth [kingdom] upon the earth .…” Notice also
the word kingdom is used to explain the beasts in verses 18, 22, 24 and 27.
-the “horns”
“And the ten [horns] out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise .…”
Notice the 10 horns, or 10 succeeding kingdoms or governments,
come out of a kingdom, not out of a man, or a superman. these 10 horns are 10
succeeding kingdoms growing out of the fourth kingdom, which was to rule the Earth!
-Daniel 2 Identification of the Kingdoms
These same four world-ruling Gentile kingdoms are described in the second chapter of Daniel.
King Nebuchadnezzar of the Chaldean Empire, who had taken the Jews captive, had a dream,
the meaning of which God revealed to Daniel.
The king saw a great image. Its head was of gold, its breast and arms of silver, its belly
and thighs of brass, its legs of iron and its feet and toes were part iron and part clay.
Finally, a stone, not in men’s hands, but supernaturally, smote the image upon his feet and toes.
It was broken in pieces and was blown away like chaff. Then the stone that smashed it became
a great mountain and filled the whole Earth.
“This,” Daniel says, beginning verse 36, “is the dream;
and we will tell the interpretation thereof before the king.”
“… Thou art this head of gold. And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee,
and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.
And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and
subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise”
-the stone smashing the image at its toes is found in the 44th verse:
“And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never
be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces
and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever.”
The Stone is Christ and His world-ruling Kingdom. The interpretation of the stone is given many
places in the Bible. “Jesus Christ of Nazareth … is the stone which was set at nought of you
builders, which is become the head of the corner” (Acts 4:10-11).
And so we see that here are four universal world-ruling Gentile kingdoms.
They begin with the Chaldean Empire, which took the Jews captive to Babylon.
-God had promised ancient Israel to be His nation if they obeyed and faithful, they would
grow into a multitude of nations—or an empire—that would dominate the entire Earth.
But, for disobedience they would have to be taken captive by Gentile nations, the world’s
first empire, God revealed through Daniel in chapter 2, it was God who had turned world
dominion over to this succession of Gentile empires.
-The Beasts
The first was Nebuchadnezzar’s kingdom, the Chaldean Empire, called “Babylon”
after the name of its capital city, 625-539 b.c.
37Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God of heaven
hath given thee (a kingdom), power, and strength, and glory.
38And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of
the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made (thee ruler over them all).
(Thou) art this head of gold.
#1 head of gold. Chaldean Empire. (626 BC-539 b.c)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Babylonian_Empire
-
The second kingdom, which followed, then, we know from history, was the Persian Empire,
558-330 b.c., often called Medo-Persia, composed of Medes and Persians.
39And (after thee) shall arise another kingdom (inferior to thee),
and another third kingdom of brass, which shall (bear rule over all the earth).
-Daniel 5 , Belshazzar, Nebuchadnezzars son is now king.
27TEKEL; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting.
28PERES; Thy kingdom is divided, and (given) to (the Medes and Persians).
31And (Darius) the Median took the kingdom, being about threescore and two years old.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darius_the_Mede
#2 breast and arms of silver -Medo-Persian Empire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achaemenid_Empire
-
the third world kingdom was Greece, or Macedonia under Alexander the Great, who conquered
the great Persian Empire 333-330 b.c. But Alexander lived only a short year after his swift
conquest, and his [four generals divided] his vast empire into four regions:
Macedonia and Greece, Thrace and Western Asia, Syria and territory east to the Indus river,
and Egypt. So these were the [four heads] of the third beast of Daniel 7.
And the fourth kingdom, which, developing from Rome, spread out and gradually absorbed
one after another of these four divisions—“dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly,”
was the Roman Empire (31 b.c. to a.d. 476).
It had absorbed all the others, occupied all their territory, was greater and stronger than all.
The royal splendor of ancient Babylon, thus having the head—the strongest part of the lion.
It had all the massiveness and powerful army of the Persian Empire symbolized by the legs,
The swiftness, the cunning, the cruelty of Alexander’s army, symbolized by the leopard.
The fourth beast was unlike any wild beast of the Earth. stronger, greater, more terrible any.
-And so John, in Revelation 13, sees, not four beasts, but one beast.
Not a leopard, but like a leopard—possessing all its cunning, cruelty and speed.
But it also possessed the dominant characteristics of the two other most powerful beasts
—the feet of a bear, and the mouth of a lion. Daniel’s fourth beast, the Roman Empire,
had absorbed and therefore it included the three beasts before it.
Thus it included all seven heads. And John’s beast also has seven heads. It was Daniel’s
fourth beast, only, which had 10 horns, and John’s beast has 10 horns.
-And so, if we are willing to be guided solely by the Bible description of this “beast” and to let
the Bible interpret the symbols used to describe it, we come to the inevitable conclusion that
the beast of Revelation 13 is the Roman Empire, of 31 b.c. to a.d. 476!
Nebuchadnezzar’s image, by the two legs, describes the two divisions of the Roman Empire,
after a.d. 330: West, with capital at Rome, and East, with capital at Constantinople.
John also pictures this beast, not as a church or as an individual man, but as a powerful government
having a great army. For they worshiped the beast by saying, “Who is able to make war with him?”
-the Horns of the fourth beast of Daniel 7 and of the beast of Revelation 13.
The 10 horns symbolize the same thing—10 stages of government continuing out of the Roman
Empire. The 10 horns “out of this kingdom [the fourth—the Roman Empire, 31 b.c. to a.d. 476]
are ten kings that shall arise .
And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven
[not in heaven], shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High …” Daniel 7:24, 27
The 10 horns, then, are 10 kingdoms to arise out of the fourth kingdom, the Roman Empire.
These kings, also called kingdoms, continue from a.d. 476 until the time when the stone,
Christ and His Kingdom, smashes the image on its toes, and the kingdom is given to the saints.
the kingdoms represented by the horns are successive, not contemporaneous.
We know the beast was the Roman empire, but now we have to see what happened
after the Rome was dealt a deadly wound, and the 10 kingdoms after to fill in history.
The woman of Rev. 12 is clothed with the "sun" not with Christ's righteousness. However, her son is righteous, and that's why they get raptured. I find three possibilities, not two of potential candidates. I don't think it's Jerusalem only because the Lord calls her "that" great city. We know from Revelation that "the" great city where our Lord was crucified, is not the same as "that" great city.
Hey Kaijo
watched your video and agree wholeheartedly
very good traditional solid Reformation and Pentecostal teaching
on Rome and the Papacy as anti-Christ and incorporating pagan
Babylonian/Assyrian symbology, history and doctrines of worship.
We get talks on this from some of our Pastors
A most excellent video - I recommend it to you abcdef
It is astounding the think that some religious symbols and
doctrines have 6,000 years of continuous history - being transformed
in use and known by different names but going all the way back to
Nimrod and Nineveh.
watched your video and agree wholeheartedly
very good traditional solid Reformation and Pentecostal teaching
on Rome and the Papacy as anti-Christ and incorporating pagan
Babylonian/Assyrian symbology, history and doctrines of worship.
We get talks on this from some of our Pastors
A most excellent video - I recommend it to you abcdef
It is astounding the think that some religious symbols and
doctrines have 6,000 years of continuous history - being transformed
in use and known by different names but going all the way back to
Nimrod and Nineveh.
Hi Waggles,
I watched the video and thought that it was accurate, until the very last minutes where they got kinda weird.
If only people knew what they participating in, and with who they were dealing with.
I pray that the Holy Spirit will open their eyes to the truth and come out of her.
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So, if you really believe that the woman of Rev 17, who rides the Roman beast, is the religious Rome, then you should be able to fill in the final prophetic blanks that take place just before the rapt/resur of the 7th trumpet.
Start with the iron legs of the statue in Dan 2 the Roman Empire. See how the iron lasts until our present time, then the stone strikes.
If you understand, that the RCC is an extension of the Roman Empire just in a different form, then we see that the iron does not stop and then start up again, the Roman Nation continues, divided and weakened, but strong over the people of Israel. Although the statue feet/toes are weakened, they still have the "strength of the iron" Dan 2:41.
Now think about the very end of the statue, just before the stone. The toes come to an end.
The toes/horns grow smaller until they end.
THEY END WHEN ROME FINALLY LOSES IT'S POWER OVER THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL, THAT HAPPENS WHEN ISRAEL IS RESTORED TO MILITARY CONTROL OVER JERUSALEM! 1967, 1967, 1967, 1967!
WE ARE LIVING IN THE TIME JUST BEFORE THE STONE STRIKES!
THE STONE WILL STRIKE WHEN THE 200 mill ARMY STANDS IN JERUSALEM, THE ARMY FROM ACROSS THE EUPHRATES RIVER AND MAGOG!
THEY ALREADY HAVE JERUSALEM SURROUNDED!
THIS IS IT! JESUS IS COMING! WAKE UP! WAKE UP!
We agree that this is Jerusalem.
This is your opinion.
Babylon was a great city, the real one. Rome was a great city. Jerusalem was a great city.
If we try to say that in the Rev that the term "that great city", is exclusive to Jerusalem, then we must also say that the city of the beast, the "seat of the beast" (iron legs and the 4th beast), is also Jerusalem, because that is the city where the woman sits, on the "seat of the beast", which "the seat of the beast" is Rome.
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The story of the scroll ends at the end of Rev 11 at the 7th trumpet. Then it begins talking about the beast and Israel. The beast we agree is Rome.
But in the seals and the trumpets, Jerusalem is not called Babylon at all in that series of passages Rev chs 4-11. Only in ch 14 is a city first called Babylon.
From Rev 15 until Rev 19, the focus seems to be against the Roman beast nation that was persecuting Israel.
The woman still is around when the 10 horns/toes of a divided Rome are seen. This also when the clay is added and the power of Rome over Israel has greatly diminished and has begun to end.
If the woman was Jerusalem, then the horns/ toes would grow stronger and kill her in 70 ad, but in comparison to the statue, increasing power over Israel is not shown.
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All prophetic time lines must agree with the statue of Daniel 2.
This is your opinion.
Babylon was a great city, the real one. Rome was a great city. Jerusalem was a great city.
If we try to say that in the Rev that the term "that great city", is exclusive to Jerusalem, then we must also say that the city of the beast, the "seat of the beast" (iron legs and the 4th beast), is also Jerusalem, because that is the city where the woman sits, on the "seat of the beast", which "the seat of the beast" is Rome.
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The story of the scroll ends at the end of Rev 11 at the 7th trumpet. Then it begins talking about the beast and Israel. The beast we agree is Rome.
But in the seals and the trumpets, Jerusalem is not called Babylon at all in that series of passages Rev chs 4-11. Only in ch 14 is a city first called Babylon.
From Rev 15 until Rev 19, the focus seems to be against the Roman beast nation that was persecuting Israel.
The woman still is around when the 10 horns/toes of a divided Rome are seen. This also when the clay is added and the power of Rome over Israel has greatly diminished and has begun to end.
If the woman was Jerusalem, then the horns/ toes would grow stronger and kill her in 70 ad, but in comparison to the statue, increasing power over Israel is not shown.
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All prophetic time lines must agree with the statue of Daniel 2.
You have not established where John changes the identity of the great city, quoting a few mashed together verses and conjecture proves nothing.
Rev 17:9 “Here is the mind which has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits,
What we have is the woman Bablyon aka 1st century Jerusalem "sitting" on, i.e be upheld by the seven mountains:
Rev 17:10 and they are seven kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while.
In his book "Revelation To John" Stephen Smalley says "The woman in 17: 3 is closely associated with the beast (mounted on it), but not equated with it."
Therefore the woman (aka Babylon - 1st century AD Jerusalem) is not the beast, the woman rides on the beast. Babylon is "seated" on the seven hills. The seven hills equal the beast.
And you can't escape the fact the woman is judged for killing the prophets which according to Jesus would fall on 1st century AD Jerusalem:
Mat 23:35 so that upon you may fall the guilt of all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, the son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
Mat 23:36 “Truly I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.
This a major contradiction in futurist "theologies", that of trying to shift the guilt from Jerusalem to another great city.
Good luck with your ABmillennialism...
Rev 17:9 “Here is the mind which has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits,
What we have is the woman Bablyon aka 1st century Jerusalem "sitting" on, i.e be upheld by the seven mountains:
Rev 17:10 and they are seven kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while.
In his book "Revelation To John" Stephen Smalley says "The woman in 17: 3 is closely associated with the beast (mounted on it), but not equated with it."
Therefore the woman (aka Babylon - 1st century AD Jerusalem) is not the beast, the woman rides on the beast. Babylon is "seated" on the seven hills. The seven hills equal the beast.
And you can't escape the fact the woman is judged for killing the prophets which according to Jesus would fall on 1st century AD Jerusalem:
Mat 23:35 so that upon you may fall the guilt of all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, the son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
Mat 23:36 “Truly I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.
This a major contradiction in futurist "theologies", that of trying to shift the guilt from Jerusalem to another great city.
Good luck with your ABmillennialism...
You have not established where John changes the identity of the great city, quoting a few mashed together verses and conjecture proves nothing.
Rev 17:9 “Here is the mind which has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits,
What we have is the woman Bablyon aka 1st century Jerusalem "sitting" on, i.e be upheld by the seven mountains:
Rev 17:10 and they are seven kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while.
In his book "Revelation To John" Stephen Smalley says "The woman in 17: 3 is closely associated with the beast (mounted on it), but not equated with it."
Therefore the woman (aka Babylon - 1st century AD Jerusalem) is not the beast, the woman rides on the beast. Babylon is "seated" on the seven hills. The seven hills equal the beast.
And you can't escape the fact the woman is judged for killing the prophets which according to Jesus would fall on 1st century AD Jerusalem:
Mat 23:35 so that upon you may fall the guilt of all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, the son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
Mat 23:36 “Truly I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.
This a major contradiction in futurist "theologies", that of trying to shift the guilt from Jerusalem to another great city.
Good luck with your ABmillennialism...
Rev 17:9 “Here is the mind which has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits,
What we have is the woman Bablyon aka 1st century Jerusalem "sitting" on, i.e be upheld by the seven mountains:
Rev 17:10 and they are seven kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while.
In his book "Revelation To John" Stephen Smalley says "The woman in 17: 3 is closely associated with the beast (mounted on it), but not equated with it."
Therefore the woman (aka Babylon - 1st century AD Jerusalem) is not the beast, the woman rides on the beast. Babylon is "seated" on the seven hills. The seven hills equal the beast.
And you can't escape the fact the woman is judged for killing the prophets which according to Jesus would fall on 1st century AD Jerusalem:
Mat 23:35 so that upon you may fall the guilt of all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, the son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
Mat 23:36 “Truly I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.
This a major contradiction in futurist "theologies", that of trying to shift the guilt from Jerusalem to another great city.
Good luck with your ABmillennialism...
See post #107 and why is in that even if one agrees that it is Jerusalem(I do) the problem still shifts to after ad70 and why is it is the "judgment of the whore that sitteth on upon many waters" and that the 7th,8th, nor the 10 had yet come...
Revelation 17:7-18,,,
vrs 8 "shall ascend out of" ,so wasn't present but was coming...
vrs.10 "not yet come" so the 7th was future,had not yet come...
vrs. 12 "received no kingdom as yet" so would in the future...
So from the time that Revelation 17 was written all of these things were not past or present they were all "future tense" in the mind of the angel who is showing this to John. So from the time this was shown to John when did the 7th come,the 8th, and the ten? Remember that the 10 ae who is to burn her with fire,ect. vrs. 16...
The Seven Hills of Jerusalem
By Ernest L. Martin, Ph.D., 2000
Reformatted by David Sielaff
The Seven Hills of Jerusalem
....even though that's not what Rev is referring to.
By Ernest L. Martin, Ph.D., 2000
Reformatted by David Sielaff
The Seven Hills of Jerusalem
....even though that's not what Rev is referring to.
the 8th is the only one who is at question as to if they are to come in the future(in aspect to Rev.17) why is that it is said "was,was not yet is" as though it existed in the past, did not at that time in the earth(was in the pit) but would ascend again from it afterwards so if this is after ad70/ad96 and Jerusalem is destroyed,in the pit then could also again rise...
iamsoandso, are you Jewish and worship God thru Talmudic Judaism??????If so, you will have to worry about going through Jacob's troubles. If not, then as a Gentile or Jewish (non-Judaism) you should be able to be in heaven during this time....It is time to get on the right road.......and........
That will be between you and GOD..