I actually don't think there are that many genuine post-trib proponents here. I think they assume that position, as those who also assume the, God didn't predestine Salvation and the Lamb's Book of Life written before the foundation of the world story is a lie, because they want to incite Christians to become upset with their obstinate pov. And they also want to see just how long we'll labor to change minds that have absolutely no intention of changing, because their minds are made up to mock and troll Christians.
Seriously. It's so obvious. Who, when they claim the name of Christ, insists they're not a Christian according to God's plan having unfolded to include them before the foundation of the world?
Nobody.
That's the biggest most stark neon yellow tell behind the whole argument those type people pursue.
They're anti-Gospel, as God laid out in it being predestined before the foundation of the world! BUT, they're an example God's plan works as planned because there they are telling us they're in Christ because it did work as planned. God called them and they responded because the call of God is spiritually discerned. Fallen people aren't able to hear. But those whom God predestined shall.
God saved his church through predestination of his plan. (And the Bible is full of prophecy! Which is, guess what, those things God predetermined would to occur!)
Same with the lot that insist post-tribulation rapture is reality in scripture. Who believes that when it isn't scripture in the first place?
When at the end of time it's all going to hit the fan, God is going to insure the church he saved suffers the great tribulation , his wrath! That he tells us he will pour onto a fallen rebellious world. Lets not forget in the midst of these discussions the 7 seals, bowls, vials.
So much for the church being saved, huh? Wrath, laid upon a rebellious fallen world. AND THE CHURCH IS THERE TOO! What fun! Salvation, NOT!
We'll suffer God's wrath on earth and then leave! Anyone read the description of the great tribulation? Does that sound like something the church God predestined to save would be found deserving by the God that saved them before he created THE WORLD!?