What I believe took place in the Garden. God knew people would rewrite some of his scriptures. What he did, was hide some of the truth. He knew those seeking would find the truth, and reason it out.
There once was a man in London, who would stand on a corner, and for some amount of change, I don’t remember how much, would from memory recite any scripture word for for word. I have never met a Christian that could do that. This man was not a Christian, nor did he believe in God.
I know a truth. It is not the amount of Bible knowledge one has, but heart condition.
Here is how I believe events in the Garden took place.
One tree in the Garden, the tree of the knowledge of good and bad. Genesis 2:17...was this a real tree, or a symbolic tree?
Many believe some writing in the Bible is symbolic. For some reason, the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, is accepted as a literal tree who’s fruit, if ate, will give the eater knowledge of good, and bad? I have always believed it to be a symbolic tree.
This is my logic on it. Trees bear fruit. When Mary was pregnant with Jesus, her cousin Elizabeth said, “Bless it is the fruit of they womb.” Here an un-born Jesus is referred to as fruit. How are babies made? With a seed, fruit trees are also made with a seed,. Most living things start with a seed. There are many seeds in the Bible. When God was talking to the serpent in the Garden, Genesis 3:15, which what the complete Bible is about, God said, “I shall put enmity (hate) between your (the serpent) seed, and the women (Jesus.) seed.” The serpent is identified for the first time in the Bible in Rev 12:7-10 as Satan…so we know the serpent in the Garden was Satan, who was an angel. Angels can not reproduce, so why would God talk about Satan having a seed? True, many times God , like his son Jesus, give illustrations in the symbolic mode. In this case, God is condemning Satan to a future death. This is not an illustration, here God is condemning one of his creatures. In all the other condemning God has done, he does not use the symbolic mode…He is clear as a bell as to what he is saying, God is going to have his son Kill Satan in the future, for something Satan has done with a seed? I thought on this for many years. One night I was talking to God. (no God does not talk back to me.) I asked him, “I know you have a lot of secret stuff, and I’m not asking you tell me any of the things you like to keep secret, but, this thing in the Garden, if it’s not secret, can you tell me what the heck is going on?”
The very next day I understood. I wrote it down…it all seemed to make sense. But I didn’t trust what I believed, after all, people seeking an answer to something, always come up with one, real or not…and I’m people too, so I figured my mind just made up an answer to just shut me up. I tried to forget the answer my mind gave me. For months It keep creeping back into my thinking…Satan had a seed, Satan had a seed. The trees in the garden? There were the human tree, the animal tree, and the flying creatures of the air tree.
Adam and Eve could take of the human seed, not the animal, or flying creature of the air seed. It made no sense? Even it they took of the animal seed, (sex) Eve could not get pregnant?
When God Commands somebody to do something,, he makes sure they do it whether they want to or not. After Adam was created, God told the angels to serve man. Angeles are powerful, and super intelligent. They have been around for maybe billions of years, and they are in the presents of God…that’s a high position. Being asked to serve man, who in an angels eye must look like a weak creature, with the brain of a jellyfish. Serving man may have seemed like a big demotion. I guess it would be like God asking humans to become servants to worms. Anyway, and for whatever reason, many revolted against this. Like I stated earlier, if one of Gods creatures refuses to do what God has commanded, God forces them to do it anyway. In the case of this revolt, God cast these angels down to earth in a form they had to stay. Since the angels felt they were better than man, he put them in the garden a step lower than man. An angelic, man like animal. We could call them the highest form of animal…with seed that could mix with human. These angels would be of the animal tree.
One of our members Nautilis posted that humans have 98.5 DNA sequences with primate, specifically chimpanzees. I agree with this fact of science. Why would God create man with any part of animal DNA?
I think Satan took advantage to use the position of the fallen angels to to get Adam and the women in trouble with God, which would release the angels from serving man, and also give Satan followers. I know this sounds somewhat far fetched from what many believe, but is it any more far fetched that a tree, whose fruit if eaten, would all of a sudden give the eater all this great knowledge of good and bad? Satan was still an angel, for he was allowed to come and go in and out of Heaven, those stuck on earth could not. Satan had to use the animal human like body of one of these fallen angels to seduce the women…impregnate her with animal seed…the seed God was talking about.
After the women gave birth to Cain, Adam started calling the women Eve, which means giver of life. It is the male who is the giver of life because the male has the seed.
In Genesis neither Cain, or Able are listed as children of Adam. The Bible says Adam knew his wife (sex), and Cain was born. It does not say, Adam had a son named Cain? It is Seth. who is the first child of Adam listed in the Bible, and this was one hundred and thirty years later.
Animals always aged and died, they are not souls, nor refered to as souls. Man was not designed to die. When the human family got infected with animal seed, they also died. The only two never infected with animal seed were Adam and Eve…they died at a judgment from God. Note, at that judgment, God is clear…no symbolic talking here either.
Genesis 3:15 speaks of future events of the seed of Jesus. Jesus was born with no animal DNA, animal seed. Jesus could have brought children into the world free of death.
I believe with my whole heart, it was that unborn pure human race within Jesus that was sacrificed for our human family. It also takes three day after a man dies, before all of his sperm dies.
One member asked, “When Adam and Eve screwed up, why didn’t God just kill them. and start over?” I have asked many young people getting married after knowing each other for just a few months, “What will you do if you have problems?” most replied, “Get a divorce.” God does not start something, and if there are problems, wad it up and throw it away.
Satan does not want people to know why we die. Religious leaders keep to the story of that magic tree. It’s funny what people will believe. Ponce de Leon wasted his last years looking for the Fountain of Youth. There are some today who still believe there is such a Fountain.
Humans are not all that smart. When people used to ask me, “You still believe in God?” I would always reply, “He likes me. I make him laugh. One hour each day God tell his angels, “Don’t bother me, I’m watching my dummy…he’s so stupid he’s funny.”
“Yeah? Well if you think I’m stupid, you ought to listen to some of the stories these other guys tell about you. And I'm not going to tell you what they are, cause it's a secret.”
There once was a man in London, who would stand on a corner, and for some amount of change, I don’t remember how much, would from memory recite any scripture word for for word. I have never met a Christian that could do that. This man was not a Christian, nor did he believe in God.
I know a truth. It is not the amount of Bible knowledge one has, but heart condition.
Here is how I believe events in the Garden took place.
One tree in the Garden, the tree of the knowledge of good and bad. Genesis 2:17...was this a real tree, or a symbolic tree?
Many believe some writing in the Bible is symbolic. For some reason, the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, is accepted as a literal tree who’s fruit, if ate, will give the eater knowledge of good, and bad? I have always believed it to be a symbolic tree.
This is my logic on it. Trees bear fruit. When Mary was pregnant with Jesus, her cousin Elizabeth said, “Bless it is the fruit of they womb.” Here an un-born Jesus is referred to as fruit. How are babies made? With a seed, fruit trees are also made with a seed,. Most living things start with a seed. There are many seeds in the Bible. When God was talking to the serpent in the Garden, Genesis 3:15, which what the complete Bible is about, God said, “I shall put enmity (hate) between your (the serpent) seed, and the women (Jesus.) seed.” The serpent is identified for the first time in the Bible in Rev 12:7-10 as Satan…so we know the serpent in the Garden was Satan, who was an angel. Angels can not reproduce, so why would God talk about Satan having a seed? True, many times God , like his son Jesus, give illustrations in the symbolic mode. In this case, God is condemning Satan to a future death. This is not an illustration, here God is condemning one of his creatures. In all the other condemning God has done, he does not use the symbolic mode…He is clear as a bell as to what he is saying, God is going to have his son Kill Satan in the future, for something Satan has done with a seed? I thought on this for many years. One night I was talking to God. (no God does not talk back to me.) I asked him, “I know you have a lot of secret stuff, and I’m not asking you tell me any of the things you like to keep secret, but, this thing in the Garden, if it’s not secret, can you tell me what the heck is going on?”
The very next day I understood. I wrote it down…it all seemed to make sense. But I didn’t trust what I believed, after all, people seeking an answer to something, always come up with one, real or not…and I’m people too, so I figured my mind just made up an answer to just shut me up. I tried to forget the answer my mind gave me. For months It keep creeping back into my thinking…Satan had a seed, Satan had a seed. The trees in the garden? There were the human tree, the animal tree, and the flying creatures of the air tree.
Adam and Eve could take of the human seed, not the animal, or flying creature of the air seed. It made no sense? Even it they took of the animal seed, (sex) Eve could not get pregnant?
When God Commands somebody to do something,, he makes sure they do it whether they want to or not. After Adam was created, God told the angels to serve man. Angeles are powerful, and super intelligent. They have been around for maybe billions of years, and they are in the presents of God…that’s a high position. Being asked to serve man, who in an angels eye must look like a weak creature, with the brain of a jellyfish. Serving man may have seemed like a big demotion. I guess it would be like God asking humans to become servants to worms. Anyway, and for whatever reason, many revolted against this. Like I stated earlier, if one of Gods creatures refuses to do what God has commanded, God forces them to do it anyway. In the case of this revolt, God cast these angels down to earth in a form they had to stay. Since the angels felt they were better than man, he put them in the garden a step lower than man. An angelic, man like animal. We could call them the highest form of animal…with seed that could mix with human. These angels would be of the animal tree.
One of our members Nautilis posted that humans have 98.5 DNA sequences with primate, specifically chimpanzees. I agree with this fact of science. Why would God create man with any part of animal DNA?
I think Satan took advantage to use the position of the fallen angels to to get Adam and the women in trouble with God, which would release the angels from serving man, and also give Satan followers. I know this sounds somewhat far fetched from what many believe, but is it any more far fetched that a tree, whose fruit if eaten, would all of a sudden give the eater all this great knowledge of good and bad? Satan was still an angel, for he was allowed to come and go in and out of Heaven, those stuck on earth could not. Satan had to use the animal human like body of one of these fallen angels to seduce the women…impregnate her with animal seed…the seed God was talking about.
After the women gave birth to Cain, Adam started calling the women Eve, which means giver of life. It is the male who is the giver of life because the male has the seed.
In Genesis neither Cain, or Able are listed as children of Adam. The Bible says Adam knew his wife (sex), and Cain was born. It does not say, Adam had a son named Cain? It is Seth. who is the first child of Adam listed in the Bible, and this was one hundred and thirty years later.
Animals always aged and died, they are not souls, nor refered to as souls. Man was not designed to die. When the human family got infected with animal seed, they also died. The only two never infected with animal seed were Adam and Eve…they died at a judgment from God. Note, at that judgment, God is clear…no symbolic talking here either.
Genesis 3:15 speaks of future events of the seed of Jesus. Jesus was born with no animal DNA, animal seed. Jesus could have brought children into the world free of death.
I believe with my whole heart, it was that unborn pure human race within Jesus that was sacrificed for our human family. It also takes three day after a man dies, before all of his sperm dies.
One member asked, “When Adam and Eve screwed up, why didn’t God just kill them. and start over?” I have asked many young people getting married after knowing each other for just a few months, “What will you do if you have problems?” most replied, “Get a divorce.” God does not start something, and if there are problems, wad it up and throw it away.
Satan does not want people to know why we die. Religious leaders keep to the story of that magic tree. It’s funny what people will believe. Ponce de Leon wasted his last years looking for the Fountain of Youth. There are some today who still believe there is such a Fountain.
Humans are not all that smart. When people used to ask me, “You still believe in God?” I would always reply, “He likes me. I make him laugh. One hour each day God tell his angels, “Don’t bother me, I’m watching my dummy…he’s so stupid he’s funny.”
“Yeah? Well if you think I’m stupid, you ought to listen to some of the stories these other guys tell about you. And I'm not going to tell you what they are, cause it's a secret.”
