Domenic: This is what I believe about the tree in the garden.

[Abiding]

the second Adam was crucified also on a tree and required all to eat of the fruit this time for eternal life
which is a seed. Nothing to do with animal sex. Period.

This daydream as you understand is no more than fantasy. Not even worth reading
such stuff. Yet you prance like a gnostic. Unbelievable.

 

[loveme1]

Religions do not want their members to know the truth of events in the Garden, nor why the angels revolted. Why? Because all people have to do is what Jesus said, “Believe in him, and you will have life.” That is a Bible truth. With that truth, people do not need to make homage to man made religions. Religions are a money business. Jesus even showed his contempt for them in the Temple.
Today, if you have a loved one you feel in a HELL of FIRE, the Vatican will take that dead loved one out of Hell, and place them in Heaven for $50,000 U.S.D.
Why do you think I am not in a religion? I like all other humans like to be part of a group. If you think it is easy standing solo serving God, you should try it some time.
I can Point out with the Bible, every major false doctrine religions emply to keep their members in Check. The two main ones are going to Heaven, or a hell of fire.
If you do not believe me, put me to the test. I will not run away and hide.
God created man to be the a=caretaker of his Paradise (The earth.) Some say, “Oh, God only wanted man to live a short time, then go to Heaven.” That is a bold face lie. Man was designed to live forever.
A hell of fire. I have posted three scriptures that prove Hell is the common grave of man, and he is asleep in the grave. No fire, no little men with pitch forks, or any other fairy tale. Hell Fire is a bold face lie.
I will sit down with anybody, any where, any time, with your Bible, and show you the truth with Gods written word.
Why do you think some on this forum are trying to shut me up.
If I do not reply it will be because I will have been banned for this writing

is that true about the vatican?

 

[wind]

i understand that church is man-made. religion is man made. but we, ourselves, we cannot be man-made. we did not create ourselves i do not think.


this whole thing - with animals and angels and adam and eve and their off-spring or supposed off-spring etc is just odd. all of religion is odd.

sometimes i fear that man made up religion for fear of the grave. of course, i do not want this to be true. i want to live. eternally. who would not? it does not have to be here i am not that choosy but it cannot be Hell either or it deflates the purpose quite a bit.

the hiearchy is an issue. animals submissive to all. children submissive to parents. wives submissive to men. servant submissive to master, man submissive to God.

it is hard to get beyond the gates of the garden. i have not fully understood what was Satan's crime. I cannot understand the crime of seeking knowledge from the tree. to blame it on the woman is stupid (i say as a woman). this is probably pride of sorts, yes. but still i know my place. and i know others places as well. by and large we are equal. all on this blue dot together. animals too. atoms too the first atom... etc


i dont want it to be a fairytale. in moments of weakness i feel i am a fool to believe the gospel is anything more than man's desire for immortality. at other moment's i feel i am a fool to doubt the validity of God, of Christ, of things eternal and so vast i cannot comprehend. Christ have mercy lest i blaspeme thy eternal name. caught. scared. trapped in my mortal ways. perhpas with good reason. The Lord my God convicted me when i walked in His ways before, when i tried to do what was right. maybe it was The Way. but i waver - while we are here there is no proof.

so what is it that i should do?... just go on mulling it over until i can finally sleep at night, get on with the business of living, and hope for the best? never palatable. still i guess, i hope i might find an answer - what alternative do i have?

 

[PS]

i understand that church is man-made. religion is man made. but we, ourselves, we cannot be man-made. we did not create ourselves i do not think.


this whole thing - with animals and angels and adam and eve and their off-spring or supposed off-spring etc is just odd. all of religion is odd.

sometimes i fear that man made up religion for fear of the grave. of course, i do not want this to be true. i want to live. eternally. who would not? it does not have to be here i am not that choosy but it cannot be Hell either or it deflates the purpose quite a bit.

the hiearchy is an issue. animals submissive to all. children submissive to parents. wives submissive to men. servant submissive to master, man submissive to God.

it is hard to get beyond the gates of the garden. i have not fully understood what was Satan's crime. I cannot understand the crime of seeking knowledge from the tree. to blame it on the woman is stupid (i say as a woman). this is probably pride of sorts, yes. but still i know my place. and i know others places as well. by and large we are equal. all on this blue dot together. animals too. atoms too the first atom... etc


i dont want it to be a fairytale. in moments of weakness i feel i am a fool to believe the gospel is anything more than man's desire for immortality. at other moment's i feel i am a fool to doubt the validity of God, of Christ, of things eternal and so vast i cannot comprehend. Christ have mercy lest i blaspeme thy eternal name. caught. scared. trapped in my mortal ways. perhpas with good reason. The Lord my God convicted me when i walked in His ways before, when i tried to do what was right. maybe it was The Way. but i waver - while we are here there is no proof.

so what is it that i should do?... just go on mulling it over until i can finally sleep at night, get on with the business of living, and hope for the best? never palatable. still i guess, i hope i might find an answer - what alternative do i have?

People get the wrong end of the stick, they misread scripture, then they put two and two together and make five. I would recommend keeping to the Gospels, John is my favorite, the epistles are good for teaching but Paul tends to make it complicated by putting both sides of the argument and a lot of what he says was to help deal with problems in the local church at that time. As a Christian I follow the teaching of Christ. Do that and you won't go wrong, I will pray for you. God bless.

 

[Domenic]

i understand that church is man-made. religion is man made. but we, ourselves, we cannot be man-made. we did not create ourselves i do not think.


this whole thing - with animals and angels and adam and eve and their off-spring or supposed off-spring etc is just odd. all of religion is odd.

sometimes i fear that man made up religion for fear of the grave. of course, i do not want this to be true. i want to live. eternally. who would not? it does not have to be here i am not that choosy but it cannot be Hell either or it deflates the purpose quite a bit.

the hiearchy is an issue. animals submissive to all. children submissive to parents. wives submissive to men. servant submissive to master, man submissive to God.

it is hard to get beyond the gates of the garden. i have not fully understood what was Satan's crime. I cannot understand the crime of seeking knowledge from the tree. to blame it on the woman is stupid (i say as a woman). this is probably pride of sorts, yes. but still i know my place. and i know others places as well. by and large we are equal. all on this blue dot together. animals too. atoms too the first atom... etc


i dont want it to be a fairytale. in moments of weakness i feel i am a fool to believe the gospel is anything more than man's desire for immortality. at other moment's i feel i am a fool to doubt the validity of God, of Christ, of things eternal and so vast i cannot comprehend. Christ have mercy lest i blaspeme thy eternal name. caught. scared. trapped in my mortal ways. perhpas with good reason. The Lord my God convicted me when i walked in His ways before, when i tried to do what was right. maybe it was The Way. but i waver - while we are here there is no proof.

so what is it that i should do?... just go on mulling it over until i can finally sleep at night, get on with the business of living, and hope for the best? never palatable. still i guess, i hope i might find an answer - what alternative do i have?

Wind,
I have repeated this many times over the years; If I did not have solid, steel proof that the Bible was Gods word, I would throw the Bible in the trash. But we do have that proof. God does not expect us to believe without proof…steel proof leaves no doubt the Bible is TRULY his word.
There are over 10,000 prophecies in the Bible that have come true. This is solid steel proof. When I talk to others about our God, and our Lord Jesus, I beg them to dig deep into Gods word, not to just gain knowledge, but to test the word so strongly, that nothing can turn them away for God.
Many who believe, have never tested Gods word. Their belief will fall with the slightest turn of events.

Do not trust my word, or that of anybody else. Seek out those prophecies, and you will have no doubt the truth of our Great God, and his son, our Lord Jesus.
God says to test his word: I John 4
Here is a simple prophecy to start find Gods word is steel strong, and true:
Daniel 8: This chapter is two prophecies in one. Daniel asked God, “What does this mean? and God replied, “These things will be sealed up until the time of the end. We are in those end times, and it is no longer sealed up…we understand the prophecy.
It was written about a man not yet born when God had Daniel write it.
You can match the prophecy to history, event, by event…you will find to your great joy, the thousands of steel proof prophecies that prove Gods word is true.

Our God created us, and knows our every need. God and all in Heaven are rejoicing for you are on the narrow path that leads to Gods truth, and eternal life.

 

[Domenic]

People get the wrong end of the stick, they misread scripture, then they put two and two together and make five. I would recommend keeping to the Gospels, John is my favorite, the epistles are good for teaching but Paul tends to make it complicated by putting both sides of the argument and a lot of what he says was to help deal with problems in the local church at that time. As a Christian I follow the teaching of Christ. Do that and you won't go wrong, I will pray for you. God bless.

Are you correcting God? 2 Timothy 3: 16-17

"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."

 

[Huios]

Domenic please sit down with someone who can read and understand hebrew. Greek english latin are very abstract languages Hebrew is both pictographic and phenitic it is very concrete not abstract Please look up a guy His name is Jeff Benner just take your time and learn you can do it I did it. I can 100% prove the Torah and most of the scriptures were originally in this form It is carved in stone and on walls all over this earth. Please challenge me on this GOD all ways makes away for HIS children. These ideas you are having are a lie from the enemy. The word for tree is ayin tsadiq "ayts" it can also mean a councelor it is all about the contex contex contex I am sorry for being short with you on other threads. Please you are on a very dangerous path.

Angels can produce

 

[Domenic]

Angels can produce

You claim to not be Christian, yet you speak of angels. The three word sentence you posted, is an incomplete sentence. What are you trying to say? Is English your second language?

 

[PS]

Are you correcting God? 2 Timothy 3: 16-17

"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."

No. I am not correcting God, and don't talk to me as though I am a child. I am correcting you and others who read a simple passage of scripture and give it as many meanings as people who read it. The number of cults and the different interpretations they give are evidence of this simple truth. God's word stands for eternity, your words are like the stubble that is burned in the fire.

 

[wdeaton65]

Domenic still at it in other threads you just talk like someone who has special understanding yet you can not prove your ideas from the Word of GOD you really like MILK dont you you better check your bottle the milk your drinking and spitting out is sour and poisonous. Next stop jim jones and the koolaid coming to a lap top or PC near you.

 

[Abiding]

 

[Huios]

You claim to not be Christian, yet you speak of angels. The three word sentence you posted, is an incomplete sentence. What are you trying to say? Is English your second language?

Genesis 6:4
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

 

[Domenic]

No. I am not correcting God, and don't talk to me as though I am a child. I am correcting you and others who read a simple passage of scripture and give it as many meanings as people who read it. The number of cults and the different interpretations they give are evidence of this simple truth. God's word stands for eternity, your words are like the stubble that is burned in the fire.

Forgive me if my question to your post offended you. Please help me understand. If so many people give a scripture so many meanings, you are people...what makes your meaning correct? I backed by question with a scripture. You Sir, backed your statment with nothing. And yes, your statment went against a scripture given by the God you claim to defend. Please, I am a stupid man, help me understand. My words stand as stubble that is burning in the fire? The scripture is from God...do you believe I made the scripture up? It is in the Bible. You can even check it out in your own bible.
Since the scripture I posted is from God, and not my words...the correct English you should have used is..."Gods words stand as stubble that is burning in the fire." Is that what you ment to say?

 

[PS]

Forgive me if my question to your post offended you. Please help me understand. If so many people give a scripture so many meanings, you are people...what makes your meaning correct? I backed by question with a scripture. You Sir, backed your statment with nothing. And yes, your statment went against a scripture given by the God you claim to defend. Please, I am a stupid man, help me understand. My words stand as stubble that is burning in the fire? The scripture is from God...do you believe I made the scripture up? It is in the Bible. You can even check it out in your own bible.
Since the scripture I posted is from God, and not my words...the correct English you should have used is..."Gods words stand as stubble that is burning in the fire." Is that what you ment to say?

Is English Your first language?

This is what I said, "God's word stands for eternity, YOUR words are like the stubble that is burned in the fire."

This is how you have interpreted it, "Gods words stand as stubble that is burning in the fire."

This is what happens when you interpret scripture, you get it wrong.

 

[Domenic]

Read post #53 again....you think I have it wrong? Whats wrong with me, is whats wrong with you. You should have somebody else read it for you.

 

[PS]

Genesis 6:4
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Can I just say about taking words literally. You may be right in this case but compared to a midget I am a giant but I am only 6 feet tall and not really a giant at all.

A giant can be a mighty warrior, someone can be a giant of a man in personality.

The San Francisco baseball team are "Giants."

But they are not really.

I'm posting this, not so much for you, but for the benefit of others to show that we shouldn't really assume the first meaning that springs to mind. Cheers.

 

[Domenic]

The best way to understand a scripture, is to back it up with other scriptures. All of Gods scriptures when done in this manner, have layers of truth, of different subjects.

 

[wind]

i feel that what u were getting at, domenic, is that if i search the Bible diligently i will find many places that foretell (prophecy) of the Messiah's coming and even second coming etc. The Bible also tells of many other things that come true not concerning Jesus Christ in particular but maybe some other person or the Spirit or God's Ways or interactions with man or the cosmos. There is alot there, granted. my only disappointed is that you would expect this from a singular source. Of course the Bible is going to justify itself. Is it that great of a fate for Isaiah or John the Baptist to shout, "prepare the way"? They are all of one accord.


I do not like it that i am made this way. That i run so hot and cold on the most serious of subjects. This is how i lost my faith in the first place, i guess. I prayed and prayed that if and when the time or times came that i was ever tested in the fire that i would be given strength. That for that moment if it be God's will thru Christ thru Christ i could make it out the other side.
Then i gave it up and walked away . . .here i am this is what is left after all these years.

sometimes i fear that God has turned from me and hardened my heart, closed my ears that my chance is lost. I tell others love love love but i dont believe it or accept it for myself. can it ever be too late?

 

[jimmydiggs]

That rabbit did a man trick!

 

[Domenic]

i feel that what u were getting at, domenic, is that if i search the Bible diligently i will find many places that foretell (prophecy) of the Messiah's coming and even second coming etc. The Bible also tells of many other things that come true not concerning Jesus Christ in particular but maybe some other person or the Spirit or God's Ways or interactions with man or the cosmos. There is alot there, granted. my only disappointed is that you would expect this from a singular source. Of course the Bible is going to justify itself. Is it that great of a fate for Isaiah or John the Baptist to shout, "prepare the way"? They are all of one accord.


I do not like it that i am made this way. That i run so hot and cold on the most serious of subjects. This is how i lost my faith in the first place, i guess. I prayed and prayed that if and when the time or times came that i was ever tested in the fire that i would be given strength. That for that moment if it be God's will thru Christ thru Christ i could make it out the other side.
Then i gave it up and walked away . . .here i am this is what is left after all these years.

sometimes i fear that God has turned from me and hardened my heart, closed my ears that my chance is lost. I tell others love love love but i dont believe it or accept it for myself. can it ever be too late?

Can it ever be to late? Yes. There is a cut off point to everything.
Is it you don’t feel good enough for God? Is it that you feel he has little interest in you? Is it you feel he is ignoring you, and you don’t like that? Perhaps it is how, and why, or they way you pray”
James 4:3 “You ask, and do not receive, because you ask for the wrong reason,”

There are three parts to a payer. 1) Thanks. 2) praise. 3) Petition.

We can not pray directly to God at this time. We must ask these things in Jesus name.
The thanks are for all we receive. The Praise shows your respect and love for him, and the Petition is what we ask for.

James 3:4 says we keep asking, but the payer never gets answered? God says it is because we have asked for the wrong thing, or reason?

So what is the right thing to ask for? God knows our every need. He will take care of that. We have been created to serve God. We are servants. What does a servant ask of the master? “Hay Boss, how about that new car over there?”
“My best friend married a rich guy. Why can’t I be rich?”
Such things would not be the right thing to ask for. You ask what is the right thing?
“Father, how can I serve you this day? Guide my food steps. Give me the strength to serve you Father”
You get it? We ask how we can serve him…that is why he created us.
Another reason prayers don’t get answered, is some people are doing something wrong. They may be doing it in secret, hiding it well…but God sees it, he knows.
If you are doing something you know is wrong…that would have to stop.
Are you doing something wrong?
If you are doing something wrong, that is easy to fix. Stop doing it, ask forgivness, and it's forgiven,,,new day.