Domenic: This is what I believe about the tree in the garden.
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INGE,
Most of the things changed, are things some believe the Bible says that are not true. These un-truths are followed by manybecause there church leaders teach them as truth.
For an example: read my post, Burning people in the fires of Hell.
Most of the things changed, are things some believe the Bible says that are not true. These un-truths are followed by manybecause there church leaders teach them as truth.
For an example: read my post, Burning people in the fires of Hell.
The serpent seed doctrine is as old as it is wrong.
When you are tempted today by a demon, and by chance you fall, do you have actual sex with the tempter?
No.
Satan beguiled Eve(and Adam) the same way he does each of us...."hath God said?"
Through ideas....it was the tree of the KNOWLEDGE of good and evil.
The seed of the serpent is pride.
When you are tempted today by a demon, and by chance you fall, do you have actual sex with the tempter?
No.
Satan beguiled Eve(and Adam) the same way he does each of us...."hath God said?"
Through ideas....it was the tree of the KNOWLEDGE of good and evil.
The seed of the serpent is pride.
God gave us a safeguard to change. He made sure to somewhat hide things a second place, said in a different way, but with the same meaning. This way, andbody making a change in a passage, would miss the second, even third location of the same passage...that is why Jesus said, "Seek, and you will find.[/QUOTE]
ty for these words. gives me something to think about. always felt ill-at-ease when i came across verses like:
mark 4:12 "so that
'Seeing they may see and not perceive,
And hearing they may hear and not understand;
Lest they should turn,
and their sins be forgiven them.' "
mark 4:13
And He said to them, "Do you not understand this parable? How then will you understand all the parables?
i have to admit this part gnaws at me. . .how is anyone to know anything if the facts wont stand still?
to find the constant takes a lot of work and i wonder if it is possible.
i am disappointed when i hear of secret teachings bc i feel that knowledge should be given freely just as salvation should be given freely to all.
the ideas of animal vs human nature do not come easily to me. i do not see a great distinction nor do i really want to. i think you must have a very different meaning when you say "animal" but still there are undertones and they are of separation and things unkind and not holy to my thinking.
ultimately i believe in inclusion and that Christ came to save and set us free from the Law of sin and death. if there is no conquering of death what is the point? and if there is not inclusion then my dreams of what i thought it meant to be a "Christian" are shattered. if the Trinity does not exist . . . .and some other form of knowledge trumps faith i am at a loss and have much further to go.
i have much further to go anyway. i thought i was beginning to know Who the path might lead to tho.
always more to learn.
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ty for these words. gives me something to think about. always felt ill-at-ease when i came across verses like:
mark 4:12 "so that
'Seeing they may see and not perceive,
And hearing they may hear and not understand;
Lest they should turn,
and their sins be forgiven them.' "
mark 4:13
And He said to them, "Do you not understand this parable? How then will you understand all the parables?
i have to admit this part gnaws at me. . .how is anyone to know anything if the facts wont stand still?
to find the constant takes a lot of work and i wonder if it is possible.
i am disappointed when i hear of secret teachings bc i feel that knowledge should be given freely just as salvation should be given freely to all.
the ideas of animal vs human nature do not come easily to me. i do not see a great distinction nor do i really want to. i think you must have a very different meaning when you say "animal" but still there are undertones and they are of separation and things unkind and not holy to my thinking.
ultimately i believe in inclusion and that Christ came to save and set us free from the Law of sin and death. if there is no conquering of death what is the point? and if there is not inclusion then my dreams of what i thought it meant to be a "Christian" are shattered. if the Trinity does not exist . . . .and some other form of knowledge trumps faith i am at a loss and have much further to go.
i have much further to go anyway. i thought i was beginning to know Who the path might lead to tho.
always more to learn.[/QUOTE]
This is from the King James Bible: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
This is saying, Satan blinds people to the truth...it is God who opens their eyes to the truth.
Read I Jo 4:1 God tell us to test what is said...to not test would be blind.
I have good news for you. You don't have to know a ton of Bible knowledge to be in good standing with our God. Jesus let his cousin John baptism him. All John was telling people was," Believe in God, and believe in the one who is coming, and you will be saved." Jesus did not correct John on that. Believe in our God, his son or Lord Jesus, be baptised,
mark 4:12 "so that
'Seeing they may see and not perceive,
And hearing they may hear and not understand;
Lest they should turn,
and their sins be forgiven them.' "
mark 4:13
And He said to them, "Do you not understand this parable? How then will you understand all the parables?
i have to admit this part gnaws at me. . .how is anyone to know anything if the facts wont stand still?
to find the constant takes a lot of work and i wonder if it is possible.
i am disappointed when i hear of secret teachings bc i feel that knowledge should be given freely just as salvation should be given freely to all.
the ideas of animal vs human nature do not come easily to me. i do not see a great distinction nor do i really want to. i think you must have a very different meaning when you say "animal" but still there are undertones and they are of separation and things unkind and not holy to my thinking.
ultimately i believe in inclusion and that Christ came to save and set us free from the Law of sin and death. if there is no conquering of death what is the point? and if there is not inclusion then my dreams of what i thought it meant to be a "Christian" are shattered. if the Trinity does not exist . . . .and some other form of knowledge trumps faith i am at a loss and have much further to go.
i have much further to go anyway. i thought i was beginning to know Who the path might lead to tho.
always more to learn.[/QUOTE]
This is from the King James Bible: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
This is saying, Satan blinds people to the truth...it is God who opens their eyes to the truth.
Read I Jo 4:1 God tell us to test what is said...to not test would be blind.
I have good news for you. You don't have to know a ton of Bible knowledge to be in good standing with our God. Jesus let his cousin John baptism him. All John was telling people was," Believe in God, and believe in the one who is coming, and you will be saved." Jesus did not correct John on that. Believe in our God, his son or Lord Jesus, be baptised,
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WOW still on the ayts = tree? satan having sex with eve and adam and eve having sex with animals just a real freak show going on in the garden of eden sounds more like the partys for the bohemian grove bunch what do you think Domenic!!! Where is that book of life you read it would make it a lot easier if you could give all of us the heads up check out see if Nimrod is in your copy. You might want to look into selling that bad boy you never know it might be worth a lot of money to the people in DC.
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Have you ever read Mt. 23;.... how about Mt.15.... Yeshua demands men and women just like me to make sure young sheep are not lead a stray by wolves in sheeps clothing. So as long as you remain on this believers site and fourm myself and others will continue to shine light at your darkness Domenic You think you have seen the Lambs book of life is this like the mormons joseph smith and the gold tablets. I think you are doing this because you are bored.
The serpent seed they are talking about, Is the one in Genests 3:15. God is talking to satan about his seed. Angels have no seed. Somehow Satan got the use of a body that had seed that would mix with a human, female egg. In other words, Satan was the father of Both Cain, and Able. The tree was animal seed they were not to mix with. Animals always died. Since man now is mixed with animal seed, is why we die. It is called, The, " serpent seed." many believe it, and many do not. Cain and Able are not listed as the Children of Adam. The first one listed is Seth.
The angels were commanded to serve man. They revolted, so God cast them down to earth, in a animal, human like form. They were higher than the animals, and lower than man. Satans plan was to get Adam, and Eve out of favor with God.
The tree was not a real tree. it was man was not to partake of the animal tree(bad), but only the human tree.(good). Taking of it ment sex. That is why Genesis 3:15 is what the Bible is about. Jesus would come with a pure human seed, and sacrfice the unborn race within him for this one.
The angels were commanded to serve man. They revolted, so God cast them down to earth, in a animal, human like form. They were higher than the animals, and lower than man. Satans plan was to get Adam, and Eve out of favor with God.
The tree was not a real tree. it was man was not to partake of the animal tree(bad), but only the human tree.(good). Taking of it ment sex. That is why Genesis 3:15 is what the Bible is about. Jesus would come with a pure human seed, and sacrfice the unborn race within him for this one.
Religions do not want their members to know the truth of events in the Garden, nor why the angels revolted. Why? Because all people have to do is what Jesus said, “Believe in him, and you will have life.” That is a Bible truth. With that truth, people do not need to make homage to man made religions. Religions are a money business. Jesus even showed his contempt for them in the Temple.
Today, if you have a loved one you feel in a HELL of FIRE, the Vatican will take that dead loved one out of Hell, and place them in Heaven for $50,000 U.S.D.
Why do you think I am not in a religion? I like all other humans like to be part of a group. If you think it is easy standing solo serving God, you should try it some time.
I can Point out with the Bible, every major false doctrine religions emply to keep their members in Check. The two main ones are going to Heaven, or a hell of fire.
If you do not believe me, put me to the test. I will not run away and hide.
God created man to be the a=caretaker of his Paradise (The earth.) Some say, “Oh, God only wanted man to live a short time, then go to Heaven.” That is a bold face lie. Man was designed to live forever.
A hell of fire. I have posted three scriptures that prove Hell is the common grave of man, and he is asleep in the grave. No fire, no little men with pitch forks, or any other fairy tale. Hell Fire is a bold face lie.
I will sit down with anybody, any where, any time, with your Bible, and show you the truth with Gods written word.
Why do you think some on this forum are trying to shut me up.
If I do not reply it will be because I will have been banned for this writing
Today, if you have a loved one you feel in a HELL of FIRE, the Vatican will take that dead loved one out of Hell, and place them in Heaven for $50,000 U.S.D.
Why do you think I am not in a religion? I like all other humans like to be part of a group. If you think it is easy standing solo serving God, you should try it some time.
I can Point out with the Bible, every major false doctrine religions emply to keep their members in Check. The two main ones are going to Heaven, or a hell of fire.
If you do not believe me, put me to the test. I will not run away and hide.
God created man to be the a=caretaker of his Paradise (The earth.) Some say, “Oh, God only wanted man to live a short time, then go to Heaven.” That is a bold face lie. Man was designed to live forever.
A hell of fire. I have posted three scriptures that prove Hell is the common grave of man, and he is asleep in the grave. No fire, no little men with pitch forks, or any other fairy tale. Hell Fire is a bold face lie.
I will sit down with anybody, any where, any time, with your Bible, and show you the truth with Gods written word.
Why do you think some on this forum are trying to shut me up.
If I do not reply it will be because I will have been banned for this writing