Why Jesus didn't replace the seventh day Sabbath...

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The rest (anapauō) we have in Jesus is a rest from trying to be made acceptable to God through living righteously. The rest (sabbatismos) found in the seventh day is a ceasing from the routine work we do the other six days of the week. It's done to keep the seventh day separate from the other six as a reminder and testimony of creation and its Creator.

The rest we have in Jesus is a spiritual rest that is personal. I can't pass the rest we have in Jesus off to someone else. In other words, I can make someone rest in Jesus because of this, Jesus cannot replace the seventh day Sabbath. Let me explain. The fourth commandment tells me to take the day off from work. It also tells me to not allow my sons or daughters to work either. It also tells me to give my servants the day off as well and if there are any strangers living in my neighborhood I am to not let them do any work either such as maybe cutting my grass or painting my house. You see, I can make someone take the day off but I can't make them rest in Jesus. Even my working animals I am to give the day off and they don't need to rest in Jesus.

Now, the rest we have in Jesus does carry over to keeping the seventh day holy because if I violate the Sabbath that's a sin deserving the death penalty. But I am in Christ and no longer under the Law. So why is that Good News? Because the death penalty for sin came through the Law. Does that mean the seventh day is no longer holy, blessed and sanctified? No way! It was created that way as part of creation even before sin and long before the Law. And God said it was very good. The Law didn't make the day holy and blessed, it protected it.

So how does all this translate to me keeping the Sabbath holy? Well, first of all we are not keeping it with a meritorious mindset. In other words, we are not trying to earn something by keeping it holy nor are we trying archive righteousness so that lifts a huge burden from our shoulders.

The Sabbath is still a blessed and special day to God and His people but it is not to be elevated above people or their needs.

The seventh day testifies of creation and its Creator. It separates you as God's people like a wedding ring does for the couple. We have freedom on the Sabbath through Christ, not freedom from the Sabbath. The seventh day will always be with us so use it for what God intended it for. The put down your tools of trade and come from far and near to gather as a people of God in fellowship and praise giving thanks giving for all.
 
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Oh, my goodness! Just stop it with the silly Sabbath talk! If people haven't been convinced by you and others like you with the thousand and one threads you've already done, another thread isn't going to seal the deal.
 

posthuman

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i am very glad that today isn't the Sabbath, yet we still have rest in the Lord of the Sabbath!

He has revealed the true nature of the former shadow.

the Lord of the Sabbath testifies of creation and is the Creator.
He separates us more than a wedding ring ever could.
we have freedom every day through Him. He will always be with us, as God intends.

put down your rituals and lay aside your own works, this day, and tomorrow, and for all time - the One who made you will give you rest in the fellowship of His glory.


That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us,
who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

(Romans 8:4)
 
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Oh, my goodness! Just stop it with the silly Sabbath talk! If people haven't been convinced by you and others like you with the thousand and one threads you've already done, another thread isn't going to seal the deal.
Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

Mark 7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
 
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The rest (anapauō) we have in Jesus is a rest from trying to be made acceptable to God through living righteously. The rest (sabbatismos) found in the seventh day is a ceasing from the routine work we do the other six days of the week. It's done to keep the seventh day separate from the other six as a reminder and testimony of creation and its Creator.

The rest we have in Jesus is a spiritual rest that is personal. I can't pass the rest we have in Jesus off to someone else. In other words, I can make someone rest in Jesus because of this, Jesus cannot replace the seventh day Sabbath. Let me explain. The fourth commandment tells me to take the day off from work. It also tells me to not allow my sons or daughters to work either. It also tells me to give my servants the day off as well and if there are any strangers living in my neighborhood I am to not let them do any work either such as maybe cutting my grass or painting my house. You see, I can make someone take the day off but I can't make them rest in Jesus. Even my working animals I am to give the day off and they don't need to rest in Jesus.

Now, the rest we have in Jesus does carry over to keeping the seventh day holy because if I violate the Sabbath that's a sin deserving the death penalty. But I am in Christ and no longer under the Law. So why is that Good News? Because the death penalty for sin came through the Law. Does that mean the seventh day is no longer holy, blessed and sanctified? No way! It was created that way as part of creation even before sin and long before the Law. And God said it was very good. The Law didn't make the day holy and blessed, it protected it.

So how does all this translate to me keeping the Sabbath holy? Well, first of all we are not keeping it with a meritorious mindset. In other words, we are not trying to earn something by keeping it holy nor are we trying archive righteousness so that lifts a huge burden from our shoulders.

The Sabbath is still a blessed and special day to God and His people but it is not to be elevated above people or their needs.

The seventh day testifies of creation and its Creator. It separates you as God's people like a wedding ring does for the couple. We have freedom on the Sabbath through Christ, not freedom from the Sabbath. The seventh day will always be with us so use it for what God intended it for. The put down your tools of trade and come from far and near to gather as a people of God in fellowship and praise giving thanks giving for all.
Why do you create the same thread over and over and over every day, with a different title ???
 

posthuman

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What shall we say, then?
That Gentiles who did not pursue righteousness have attained it, that is, a righteousness that is by faith;
but that Israel who pursued a law that would lead to righteousness did not succeed in reaching that law.
Why? Because they did not pursue it by faith, but as if it were based on works. They have stumbled over the stumbling stone, as it is written,
“Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offense;
and whoever believes in him will not be put to shame.”

(Romans 9:30-33)
 
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Tintin

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Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

Mark 7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
More like 'my people are destroyed for lack of wisdom by using Bible verses out of context'.
 
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WooHoo!! Today is Sunday! Church at 10!
 
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Obviously he doesn't feel like he's getting the praise, and audience size that he wants. Maybe not enough pat's on the back, or he's convinced everyone else is wrong, and only his view is correct.
 
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Obviously he doesn't feel like he's getting the praise, and audience size that he wants. Maybe not enough pat's on the back, or he's convinced everyone else is wrong, and only his view is correct.
Seriously, if we just ignore them all, they may go away. Or not.
 
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Matthew 7:6 “Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.

Have a blessed life!
 

Blain

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Hmm.... Got bored of your last sabbath thread huh scuba? Okay seeing how there are so many sabbath threads and how its irritating everyone im going to make a few sabbath threads and then the entire bible discussion forum will be swamped with sabbath threads and then everyone can rip the hair out of their heads( That means you tintin)
 
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Scuba here is an index of all your threads about the Sabbath.


Within the last four weeks.
http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...-replace-seventh-day-sabbath.html#post1690077
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/99176-early-church-didnt-gather-first-day-week.html
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/99237-sabbath-truth.html
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/98350-bereans-would-not-happy-you.html
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/98278-sabbath-sign-old-covenant-more.html
http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...-system-rising-up-changing-his-times-law.html
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/97996-if-you-honor-seventh-day.html


August 2014
http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...-know-early-church-never-gathered-sunday.html
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/96722-bondage.html
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/97056-why-do-you-want-carry-burden-under-yoke.html


July 2014
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/95101-heres-logic.html
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/95282-sabbath-given-gods-children.html
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/96044-why-we-bondage.html
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/96235-tutor.html
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/96128-mediators-hand-god.html
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/95994-orthodoxy-vs-orthopraxy.html
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/95569-rest-hebrews-4-good-news-coming-kingdom.html
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/94813-law-perfect-converting-soul.html
http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...mandment-didnt-make-day-holy-make-burden.html


June 2014
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/94528-why-such-hatred-seventh-day.html
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/96610-funny-thing.html
http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...lords-day-one-satans-greatest-deceptions.html
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/94503-sunday-lords-day.html
http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...13-more-closely-we-must-come-out-babylon.html
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/94351-your-denomination-misleading-you.html
 
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Scuba, as shown there--> Link , you have an excessive amount of threads on the Sabbath.
From this point on, if you want to discuss that issue, please use one of your recent threads on the topic instead of creating another new one. Thanks.

Also because I know many love discussing this topic a lot, I've created an onsite group dedicated to just that.
No limits on discussing that topic there.
The discussion group has many of the same functions as the forum. You can make new threads in it and everything.

Link to the group.--> http://christianchat.com/group.php?groupid=478

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If Christians (professing whether or not for real) could agree that resting in the good graces of God was for real, we could contribute to real edification that lays a foundation for the truth in agreement. Too many opinions, and not enough desire. Too much pride and not enough humility. Seems as though our sect is so firmly grounded in our own doctrines that we have rendered ourselves incapable to be lifted up to an elevation that will increase our knowledge of the truth, being like minded as the true church is exhorted to be. I've noticed (even with myself) we read what the other person wrote while thinking how we are going to get our point across without taking the time to listen to their heart as we read their post. Of course, when we see contention in their posts it's time to depart according to scripture.

Romans 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them .
James 4:10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up .
1 Peter 5:6 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:
 
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"Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding."
Oops, definitely wasn't meant to post that Proverb here. :rolleyes:
 
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"Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding."
Oops, definitely wasn't meant to post that Proverb here. :rolleyes:
It's appropriate. Thank you
 

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He didn't replace it. He fulfilled it. It was a picture of the rest we have in Christ. We have ceased with our own works and entered into grace. Made perfect by His works, not ours.
 
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The rest (anapauō) we have in Jesus is a rest from trying to be made acceptable to God through living righteously. The rest (sabbatismos) found in the seventh day is a ceasing from the routine work we do the other six days of the week. It's done to keep the seventh day separate from the other six as a reminder and testimony of creation and its Creator.

The rest we have in Jesus is a spiritual rest that is personal. I can't pass the rest we have in Jesus off to someone else. In other words, I can make someone rest in Jesus because of this, Jesus cannot replace the seventh day Sabbath. Let me explain. The fourth commandment tells me to take the day off from work. It also tells me to not allow my sons or daughters to work either. It also tells me to give my servants the day off as well and if there are any strangers living in my neighborhood I am to not let them do any work either such as maybe cutting my grass or painting my house. You see, I can make someone take the day off but I can't make them rest in Jesus. Even my working animals I am to give the day off and they don't need to rest in Jesus.

Now, the rest we have in Jesus does carry over to keeping the seventh day holy because if I violate the Sabbath that's a sin deserving the death penalty. But I am in Christ and no longer under the Law. So why is that Good News? Because the death penalty for sin came through the Law. Does that mean the seventh day is no longer holy, blessed and sanctified? No way! It was created that way as part of creation even before sin and long before the Law. And God said it was very good. The Law didn't make the day holy and blessed, it protected it.

So how does all this translate to me keeping the Sabbath holy? Well, first of all we are not keeping it with a meritorious mindset. In other words, we are not trying to earn something by keeping it holy nor are we trying archive righteousness so that lifts a huge burden from our shoulders.

The Sabbath is still a blessed and special day to God and His people but it is not to be elevated above people or their needs.

The seventh day testifies of creation and its Creator. It separates you as God's people like a wedding ring does for the couple. We have freedom on the Sabbath through Christ, not freedom from the Sabbath. The seventh day will always be with us so use it for what God intended it for. The put down your tools of trade and come from far and near to gather as a people of God in fellowship and praise giving thanks giving for all.


AMEN, I love it, very well put!!!