A Distinction Between Tongues

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Locoponydirtman said:
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This video is nothing more than a scoffing mockery. To attack one who was a professing christian and no longer here make you more spiritual and authoritative in the word of God? It does not.
 
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NOV25 said:
I’d like to see the video, sincerely. I personally believe scripture reveals the gift of tongues to be the speaking of someone else’s native language to spread the gospel. But I am also not about to say that there is no heavenly language and the Holy Spirit won’t lead people to speak it. Who am I to limit what God does?
My concern is those who falsely speak in tongues, I believe that to be lying. As a Christian Ive been given a love for all men and the desire that they be saved. If my “brother” lies regularly about anything I would bring it to his attention, no matter the subject.
And on a personal note, I’m sure you’ve weighed the cost of the YouTube video, people, “Christians” can be ravenous, it won’t be pretty in the comments section.

I hope none of this comes across as sarcasm or judgmental. 👍
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you do not understand the gifts of the Holy Spirit. I don't think you fully understand the gifts of the Holy. You think tongues is for one who speaks in language that can be translated into another language for understanding? An interpretation in the word of God for the speaking gifts is not a translation. you have the studied all three chapters of 1cor 12 to 14.
 
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Dino246 said:
Wow...

Did you read the Bible, or did you cut it up into little bits, toss them in the air, and post the random few that happened to fall on the keyboard?
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I might try that. Cut up the bible by verses, toss in the air and the one that happens to fall on the keyboard will be the verse for today.

VERSE FOR TODAY
Genesis 27:11
And Jacob said to Rebekah his mother, Behold, Esau my brother is a hairy man, and I am a smooth man.

Such a spiritual comfort and uplifting. Perhaps the message that God is telling me is that it's time to get a haircut.
 
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CS1 said:
your experience does not remove the context of the Gifts of the Holy Spirit in 1 cor chapters 12 to 14. Nor does your few verses cover the full context of all three chapter as they are to be kept in.
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It wasn’t meant to. If you read my post carefully you’ll understand that I was stating my first experience witnessing tongues, which happened to be blasphemy, and the verses quoted prove that. 😳
 
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notuptome said:
Then accept that tongues have ended and water baptism is not essential to salvation.

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they have not ended and you have no scripture to support that comment. 1cor 13: 8-10 is not speaking of that you are reading into the word of God because you have bias .
 
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NOV25 said:
It wasn’t meant to. If you read my post carefully you’ll understand that I was stating my first experience witnessing tongues, which happened to be blasphemy, and the verses quoted prove that. 😳
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what is the blasphemy you spoke of ? And what verses ?
 
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watcher2013 said:
Was Jesus heretical when he said...You must be BORN OF WATER?
In acts 8:35-40..Did it said what was the detail of their conversation?
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born of water was the natural birth all must have in being born one before they can be born again
 
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born of water was the natural birth all must have in being born one before they can be born again
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Nicodemus ask Jesus...how can a man be born again when he is old?

Except a man (already a man-not a fetus) be born of water and spirit he cannot enter the kingdom of God.
You Must (mandatory and future) be born again
 
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Nicodemus ask Jesus...how can a man be born again when he is old?

Except a man (already a man-not a fetus) be born of water and spirit he cannot enter the kingdom of God.
You Must (mandatory and future) be born again
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No he did not say " already an man not a Fetus" Jesus that which is Born of the flesh is flesh and that which is Born of the Spirit is spirit. Born of flesh is= one born aka fetus.

"Born of water" is hydōr has nothing to do with baptizō . The context is born of the flesh one time now be born again by the Spirit.
 
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garee said:
According to your theory, but not the law of God. The law of truth .

I understand your idea but there simply is no circular reason why I would believe it as a law rather than a theory. We walk by the law of faith. No philosophical theories of faith . Theories of doubt yes. Doubt not the opposite of faith. Unbelief no faith is.

Mankind found out the hard way. By listening to the voice of philosophy, the father of lies . You will surely not die. Words do not need meanings as laws not subject to change. It on the rise today . Just look at the word marriage or word gay today. . The tip of the LGBT iceberg .
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^^^ Congratulations! You've unraveled the cryptic clues, traced the secret map, and discovered the Bafflegab of Ignorance. ^^^
 
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CS1 said:
No he did not say " already an man not a Fetus" Jesus that which is Born of the flesh is flesh and that which is Born of the Spirit is spirit. Born of flesh is= one born aka fetus.

"Born of water" is hydōr has nothing to do with baptizō . The context is born of the flesh one time now be born again by the Spirit.
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The open and close parenthesis is to give emphasis on the man.
Applying physical birth...

Except a man be born of water ( physically born in flesh) and spirit....
Make no sense...
Adam is made of flesh and god gave him the breath of life (spirit).

When a man is born its always flesh...
Just it make no sense
 
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watcher2013 said:
The open and close parenthesis is to give emphasis on the man.
Applying physical birth...

Except a man be born of water ( physically born in flesh) and spirit....
Make no sense...
Adam is made of flesh and god gave him the breath of life (spirit).

When a man is born its always flesh...
Just it make no sense
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IF you place the context of why one must BE Born again, then you have your answer. and I would suggest to read further. And Adam was created and the breath of life was given to him. We were formed in out mother womb Adam and eve were not. So as a normative and the fact that Jesus was not speaking to Adam when he said " You must be born again" Adam is not in the context of this statement Nicodemus is.
 
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notuptome said:
Born of water is not water baptism.

Did you read Acts 8:35-40? Believe and you may not you must receive water baptism. Saved by grace through faith then water baptized as a testimony of the same.

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Please provide scripture. And consider that if done as an outward testimony why did the jailer and his family comply at midnight. There was no one around to witness the display.
 
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CS1 said:
This video is nothing more than a scoffing mockery. To attack one who was a professing christian and no longer here make you more spiritual and authoritative in the word of God? It does not.
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I disagree.
 
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Dino246 said:
^^^ Congratulations! You've unraveled the cryptic clues, traced the secret map, and discovered the Bafflegab of Ignorance. ^^^
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Thanks . Without parables Christ spoke not.
 
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When people obviously have trouble with basic reading comprehension on a forum then try to convince you they understand scripture better than you 🤦‍♂️
 
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NOV25 said:
When people obviously have trouble with basic reading comprehension on a forum then try to convince you they understand scripture better than you 🤦‍♂️
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I don't believe that is the case of us all.
 
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NOV25 said:
When people obviously have trouble with basic reading comprehension on a forum then try to convince you they understand scripture better than you 🤦‍♂️
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It's chronic around here.
 
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