A new look at Galatians

[JGIG]

YOU are discussing scripture or "perverted Hebrew Roots"? You suggest that all covenants are wrong except the one in Christ that is new and improved, and by wanting scripture ignored you are not the perverted one?

Unbelievable.

She has said nothing of the sort, and I'm familiar with the sources she has posted and they do nothing of the sort.

"All covenants are wrong except . . . "

Where have any of us said that?! We are rightly dividing the Word and simply believing what God says when He says that in Christ, we have a better covenant built on better promises, and that in Christ, the covenant given at Sinai is obsolete. And it clearly is! There is no Temple, the priesthood has been replaced, and no one on Earth is practicing let alone keeping the Law as God gave it! Obsolete. Not 'wrong', not 'bad'; OBSOLETE.

The other covenants? They are based on Grace and stand. The promise to Adam of a Redeemer after the Fall, the covenant of the rainbow after the Flood, the Abrahamic Covenant, the Davidic Covenant . . . no one is saying they are 'wrong' or 'bad' . . . you're simply making that up.

I don't think so. Hebrew Roots means accepting the scripture that God breathed, all of it as one scripture. You want the NT made the major scripture and you throw stones at others? It is a glass house you are living in.

No.

The Hebrew Roots Movement elevates and idolizes Torah, many in the movement deifying the Law, claiming that 'Yeshua is the Living Torah'. The Hebrew Roots Movement absolutely distorts the New Covenant writings, not accepting them for what they clearly teach.

Your suggestions do not include any of the new findings we need. They are incomplete.

Do you realize that you are saying that the Scriptures are incomplete? That more 'insight' and 'hidden knowledge' is needed?

Do you also realize that every cult ever thought up does the exact same thing?

They are studies, mine are studies. Why do you think that only you can be brilliant enough to suggest a study, but throw stones at other ones?

Sigh. No one is saying you don't have the right to post a link to a study. We are saying that we believe the study is flawed and promotes false teaching. You accuse us of throwing stones, when we are merely exercising discernment.

AND you COMPLETELY IGNORE that you're throwing ridiculously huge boulders yourself trying to shut down any dissent about what you post.

The study I suggest is not promoting a certain churches stand, can you say that about yours?

The links you promote disparage the Church, that is true. Your implication there, however, is that the 126 page study on a short, six chapter letter is not pushing an agenda. It is. And exhaustively so.

As for Angela's links, they represent the New Covenant position. And you have a problem with her links because you have a problem with the New Covenant.

-JGIG

 

[ivanc0]

This thread is not about my giving explanations of Galatians, it is about if it is OK to do the study of Galatians that I suggested.

I suggest you go to commentaries at bible Gateway, if you decide you do not want to do the study of Galatians that I suggested, although I think doing the study would give you more satisfaction.

Nice way to say I do not want to answer your question.... or I can not....! any way, why you answering other post not related to your Special study?

 

[Bookends]

Ahhh, I'd hate to break this to you all, but the LAW was made to be BROKEN!!

Why?

1. So we can see our need of a savior. (Romans 3:20, Galatians 3:24)
2. So we can see our Savior (who is a perfect law keeper) broken on the cross in our place, punished for our inability to keep the law, to demonstrate the perfect love He has for us. (Hebrews 2:17, 1 John 2:1-2, 1 John 4:10)
3. For without the law, there is no accountability to sin and punishment of sin (Romans 5:13, Romans 4:15)

**I am not saying "the Law was meant to broken" so that we could or should participate in willful sin**

Romans 3:20
New King James Version (NKJV)
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.


Galatians 3:24
New King James Version (NKJV)
24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith.


Hebrews 2:17
New King James Version (NKJV)
17 Therefore, in all things He had to be made like His brethren, that He might be a merciful and faithful High Priest in things pertainingto God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people.


1 John 2:1-2
New King James Version (NKJV)
2 My little children, these things I write to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. 2 And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.


1 John 4:10
New King James Version (NKJV)
10 In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.


Romans 5:13
New King James Version (NKJV)
13 (For until the law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

Romans 4:15
New King James Version (NKJV)
15 because the law brings about wrath; for where there is no law there is no transgression.

 

[phil112]

.................But this is a post about the idea of studying Galatians, not your idea about law. The opposition is saying we may not study it,...........

"The opposition"? I believe in the bible as the inspired word of God. And that makes me one of those opposed to you? Never thought I would hear you admit that. And no one said "do not study Galatians". That is a lie.

you look there and find a God who seems strange to me.

Oh I absolutely believe that!

So you are content that you will not look at any explanations!! If you have it wrong, you believe you should hide from anything that might be truth, it is wrong to look for more exact truth according to your information..

So you are denying God's word? You are saying that Paul lied when he told us he would show us the mystery? You are saying that God intended for us to have to go to another person the get someone to explain the bible to us?

So shut up about it, keep to what you have, it could be that others are more humble and willing to listen for God's voice. Why throw what you feel is so superior about what you know on everyone else who is searching for truth as carefully as they can.
God said to let those children looking for His voice come to him and forbid them not. So you finished and completed scholars, please just be quiet and let us seekers search scripture.

Woman, I will not submit to your will. I will not accept your lies and your blasphemous doctrine. I will not allow you to "usurp authority over me".

 

[phil112]

"yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged"

 

[Karraster]

If you look long enough and hard enough you can find anyone to agree with your personal perversion of scripture.
I am so thankful for, and I praise my God for, giving me His word in such a manner that I, a lowly mechanic, can understand it. I am grateful that my God showed me the mystery that had, until time of Christ's sacrifice for me, been hidden from the world.
I praise my God for sending the apostle Paul to complete Jesus' ministry so that I, a lowly gentile mechanic, may have hope of everlasting life in heaven. I am so grateful to my God that He sent His Spirit to inspire holy men to provide His word for me to understand without having to get an interpretation from another.I praise my God for shining that bright light in my heart to dispel the shadows and all doubt.

I feel bad for you that your god spoke in hidden words that you had to get someone to explain it to you.

I I I I I ,,it's not about you Phil.

 

[Grandpa]

There were rumors that Paul was teaching against the "law of Moses" in his day. He proved he was not by his Nazarite vow. Was Paul a hypocrite, or is he misunderstood? I think those who say He taught contrary to Moses and Jesus, have misunderstood him, and gladly so, for they cling to their strongholds and false theology rather than see. For there are numerous scripture that confirm God doesn't lower His standards to rebels, nor did Messiah rebel against Father.

Remember what happens to those who does not love truth?

2Thessalonians2
[SUP]9 [/SUP]The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, [SUP]10 [/SUP]and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. [SUP]11 [/SUP]And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, [SUP]12 [/SUP]that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Even so, come Lord Jesus. It is a wicked world indeed, when professing Christians say there is no law.

There is a law. Its just not for Christians anymore. Why not?

Because we rely on something much better than the ministry of death.
We rely on the ministry of the Spirit.

Galatians 5:22-23
[SUP]22 [/SUP]But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
[SUP]23 [/SUP]Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

The lawless ones aren't the ones with the Holy Spirit leading them. The lawless ones are the ones who still are trying to keep the law in their own strength and in their own understanding (failing), not submitting to the Righteousness of God.

You know, like the Pharisees.

 

[Karraster]

Isn't this in 2 Thessalonians 2:9 speaking of the unrighteous when saying the deception will be among those that perish because they did not receive the love of the truth that they might be saved? . . .that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. . . .

2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, [SUP]2 [/SUP]that ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand... [SUP]7 [/SUP]For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way..

I quote only 2 verses, anyone not familiar should read the whole chapter, better yet the whole book, including references to Torah. it is speaking about iniquity, the workers of iniquity.

Iniquity-lawlessness

It has puzzled me that Satan could not, for all of his cunning, and knowledge obtained from ancient times, not have figured out that Messiah would need to be sacrificed, by reading the scriptures. However, now I have more understanding in this matter. One must love the commandments of God and want to be obedient, and want to uphold and honor God. For if one does not delight in the law of our Creator, and want to know Messiah and "shema", then knowledge of the message of scripture is unattainable. You must love truth and obey truth, least you be "sent home" where for a time you will be comfortable in your comfortable house of your creation.

 

[Karraster]

There is a law. Its just not for Christians anymore. Why not?

Because we rely on something much better than the ministry of death.
We rely on the ministry of the Spirit.

Galatians 5:22-23
[SUP]22 [/SUP]But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
[SUP]23 [/SUP]Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

The lawless ones aren't the ones with the Holy Spirit leading them. The lawless ones are the ones who still are trying to keep the law in their own strength and in their own understanding (failing), not submitting to the Righteousness of God.

You know, like the Pharisees.

That is the goal, the fruit of the spirit. Do you see much of that fruit exhibited here? Sarcasm, magnifying another poster's misspelled words or grammar, laughing at others, trying to provoke...the list is endless and it is not that good fruit. ...not by any stretch of the imagination.

 

[Least]

There is a law. Its just not for Christians anymore. Why not?

Because we rely on something much better than the ministry of death.
We rely on the ministry of the Spirit.

Galatians 5:22-23
[SUP]22 [/SUP]But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
[SUP]23 [/SUP]Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

The lawless ones aren't the ones with the Holy Spirit leading them. The lawless ones are the ones who still are trying to keep the law in their own strength and in their own understanding (failing), not submitting to the Righteousness of God.

You know, like the Pharisees.

The Pharisees back then were more like many of the professing believers who deny the entire word of God. They didn't follow God's instruction but made it into their own righteousness by their actions rather than to acknowledge a true change of heart.

Mark 7:13: "And so you cancel the word of God in order to hand down your own tradition. And this is only one example among many others.” (NLT)

They canceled the word of God....Jesus was speaking of the OT at that moment. Same thing is happening today.

David, Moses, along with the other Prophets of old acknowledged the coming of Christ Jesus, whereas the Pharisees and most of the Jews could not see Jesus in the Mosaic law, or in the Prophets.

As Paul wrote:

2 Corinthians 3:11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.
2 Corinthians 3:12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
2 Corinthians 3:13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
2 Corinthians 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
2 Corinthians 3:15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
2 Corinthians 3:16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Yet, most of the Pharisees didn't recognize HIM, but not all.

John 3:1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
John 3:2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

Jesus discussed being born again with Nicodemus.

Yet there must have been some doubt as Jesus told him:

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
John 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
John 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
John 3:9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?
John 3:10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

(Indicating that a "master of Israel should know these things!) The Prophets of old certainly did.

John 3:11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.

John 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

The disciples were also of Jewish decent and knew the law and prophets, so when Jesus expounded to them all things concerning HIM that were written in the law and prophets, they understood what He spoke of, because they believed in HIM. The vail was taken away.

Since the vail is taken away in Christ, it would seem that believers in HIM would want to know and see the things spoken of HIM from throughout the word. Shouldn't we be able to see Christ in those things now?

Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Peter, who walked and was taught directly by Jesus also explained in Acts:

Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord.
Acts 3:20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
Acts 3:21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

ESV, says it like this:

whom heaven must receive until the time for restoring all the things about which God spoke by the mouth of his holy prophets long ago.

Restoration is:

The action of returning something to a former owner, place, or condition.

Jesus showed examples of this restoration, even through restoring sight to the blind,restoring health to the sick, and even raising the dead.

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Seems that believers would want to understand these things.

 

[peacefulbeliever]

2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, [SUP]2 [/SUP]that ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand... [SUP]7 [/SUP]For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way..

I quote only 2 verses, anyone not familiar should read the whole chapter, better yet the whole book, including references to Torah. it is speaking about iniquity, the workers of iniquity.

Iniquity-lawlessness

I read what you posted and I know what you quoted. The workers of iniquity are those that are not born again. I have read Thessalonians lots of times.

I am a born again child of God. I obey God to the best of my ability as I am sure you do. I am not without law - whatever is carried over to the NT church that is what I obey - I am not ignorant of the law, I do my best to not violate the law and I do not have contempt for the law - I see the whole word of God is instruction for righteousness.

Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; 1 Tim. 1:9

It has puzzled me that Satan could not, for all of his cunning, and knowledge obtained from ancient times, not have figured out that Messiah would need to be sacrificed, by reading the scriptures. However, now I have more understanding in this matter. One must love the commandments of God and want to be obedient, and want to uphold and honor God. For if one does not delight in the law of our Creator, and want to know Messiah and "shema", then knowledge of the message of scripture is unattainable. You must love truth and obey truth, least you be "sent home" where for a time you will be comfortable in your comfortable house of your creation.

And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the begnning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ. Eph. 1:9

Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought: but we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the world unto our glory; which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 1 Cor. 2:6-8

 

[Grandpa]

The Pharisees back then were more like many of the professing believers who deny the entire word of God. They didn't follow God's instruction but made it into their own righteousness by their actions rather than to acknowledge a true change of heart.

Not so. The Pharisees were the bible scholars of their time. They knew the law inside and out.

What they didn't know and couldn't submit to was the Righteousness of God apart from the law.

Same as the hebrew roots folks and legalists. They think they can look at grace through the scope of the law and the OT, hence hebrew roots. But this is backwards of actual Grace. Actual Grace looks at the law and the OT through the scope of the NT.

That is the way we know that the Ministry of the Spirit is much better than the Ministry of Death written on Stones. Because we see it through the Scope of the NT.

If you look at it through the scope of the law and the OT then you can't even acknowledge that your hebrew roots is what causes your sin and death to abound, can you?

Then you would have to try and twist scripture to try and show true Christians as the ones who are the Pharisees. Otherwise you would be forced to admit your error. You can't do that because you don't even see it. Why not? Because it is not attained intellectually. You can't figure it out with your own wisdom and knowledge. You have to ask for His. And when you do that you will have submitted to the righteousness that is apart from the law...

 

[Grandpa]

That is the goal, the fruit of the spirit. Do you see much of that fruit exhibited here? Sarcasm, magnifying another poster's misspelled words or grammar, laughing at others, trying to provoke...the list is endless and it is not that good fruit. ...not by any stretch of the imagination.

It really depends on what you focus on.

I see lots of the fruit of the Spirit exhibited here.

 

[just-me]

I am amazed that when a thread is started for edification, and dares mention the spiritual relevance to the law God gave to Moses, that almost immediately the "anti law" people start an argument with accusations with words of denunciation of one thing or another.

We talk of love, grace, gentleness, or any part of the "fruit of the Spirit" and the conversations in post after post show anything but that, in a thread stated by a particular person who has been labeled as a Judaizer/legalizer months ago. And now with this thread, as every time before, we see in the very next post from the OP an emediate conflict, just because some people think it is their responsibility to comment against what they assume is corrupt for whatever reason. What is the spiritual motivation that leads some to act in such a manner? Is it not clear what is happening, and are wee so blind?

Two more questions; What is it that Satan does to deceive the church that succeeds in prohibiting edification? Do we not realize that Jesus warded off Satan by quoting the law? Wake up people!!!

 

[Least]

Not so. The Pharisees were the bible scholars of their time. They knew the law inside and out.

What they didn't know and couldn't submit to was the Righteousness of God apart from the law.

Same as the hebrew roots folks and legalists. They think they can look at grace through the scope of the law and the OT, hence hebrew roots. But this is backwards of actual Grace. Actual Grace looks at the law and the OT through the scope of the NT.

That is the way we know that the Ministry of the Spirit is much better than the Ministry of Death written on Stones. Because we see it through the Scope of the NT.

If you look at it through the scope of the law and the OT then you can't even acknowledge that your hebrew roots is what causes your sin and death to abound, can you?

Then you would have to try and twist scripture to try and show true Christians as the ones who are the Pharisees. Otherwise you would be forced to admit your error. You can't do that because you don't even see it. Why not? Because it is not attained intellectually. You can't figure it out with your own wisdom and knowledge. You have to ask for His. And when you do that you will have submitted to the righteousness that is apart from the law...

I honestly do not know much about the "Hebrew Roots" movement, other than seeing it spoken of on these forums. The only thing I know about "Judaizers" is that they deny Christ, and I have not met or seen one who believes the entire word of God deny Christ. That would be something to take offense at.

I will never be offended by the word of God.

I think many forget that Jesus has been speaking since the beginning...(John 1.)

Would denying HIS Word be akin to denying HIM? (I seriously wonder about this.) The Pharisees didn't see Him in scriptures back then, and today many don't even look for Him in all of the scriptures.

Studying, reading and believing the entire bible does not make one a part of some religious movement.

I pray that you will not ignore the other verses shared, especially where Peter clearly spoke of the restoration written by the prophets since the world began. This yet to be fulfilled.

Proverbs 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.

For anyone who is in Christ, it should be an honor to search everything out.

Romans 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

 

[SarahM777]

I am amazed that when a thread is started for edification, and dares mention the spiritual relevance to the law God gave to Moses, that almost immediately the "anti law" people start an argument with accusations with words of denunciation of one thing or another.

We talk of love, grace, gentleness, or any part of the "fruit of the Spirit" and the conversations in post after post show anything but that, in a thread stated by a particular person who has been labeled as a Judaizer/legalizer months ago. And now with this thread, as every time before, we see in the very next post from the OP an emediate conflict, just because some people think it is their responsibility to comment against what they assume is corrupt for whatever reason. What is the spiritual motivation that leads some to act in such a manner? Is it not clear what is happening, and are wee so blind?

Two more questions; What is it that Satan does to deceive the church that succeeds in prohibiting edification? Do we not realize that Jesus warded off Satan by quoting the law? Wake up people!!!

Do you understand she is pointing to a Bible study that uses the Talmud and Mishna which are both ANTI CHRIST to EXPLAIN Galatians?

 

[RedTent]

You say that as though there is no sinning in the Law camp.

There is.

And lots of it.

Two 'Christian' leaders wielding Law-centric teaching have fallen recently and have left wide paths of destruction behind them. These were men/organizations held in high esteem amongst the Law-keeping crowd, and many from both streams flowed into Torah 'observance', in attempt for more 'pure' form Law 'keeping'.

The result is not less sinning, but more, for God says, in His Word, that the Law stirs up sinning.

Present the Gospel of Grace to people, and when received, watch what God will do! GRACE teaches us to say no to ungodliness, not Law!



The problem in churchianity today is not a lack of Law, but a lack of Pure Grace. The Law brings us to Christ. When we come to Christ, we die, DIE, to the Law (Rom. 7). That's about as separated as you can get from something! Then it is GRACE that teaches us to say no to ungodliness and live uprightly (Titus 2).

Your comment above is a twisting of what love and law and the Holy Spirit are and do. That tends to happen when one is trying to make the Law take on the role of the Holy Spirit.




To the contrary! We are saying STUDY IT! Read the letter to the Galatians plainly for what it clearly says, not for what one man who spends 126 pages trying to force a Law-keeping paradigm into a short, 6 chapter letter which CLEARLY teaches the opposite!

-JGIG

That is the problem, you are NOT reading Galatians for what it plainly says. This study is about that. You are saying it is teaching the Talmud, which is an out and out lie. The man who wrote it believes that God spent over 4,000 years preparing us for Christ, and we should listen to God from those years, and for that he is treated as a traitor to Christ. I am told I may not quote any OT scripture, and once I quoted the 119th Psalm, I am still hung on the cross for daring to do that. You know from my former posts that I do not believe in shutting my mind to any scripture, and you are using that to say you think it is right to close your mind to a study of Galatians.

I am told I am completely wrong for including scripture regarding listening to law, along with the scripture that you also actually accept and don't deny, as a reason to close your mind to this report of scripture and history applying to Galatians is absolutely ridiculous. Those truly in Christ would not do that.

The Pharisee in Christ's time acted in the way you are all acting, you surely are not closing your minds to all the gospels, are you?

Hitler believed in burning books based on his prejudices. This study only uses history and scripture, and for that you say it should be off limits for every person who accepts, at least part of the bible.

 

[Vaudeville]

So, it would be your decision to block out any scripture this person would suggest, or any history he gives based on labeling it Judiasm and in keeping with anti-Semitism.

most christians are as familiar with the old as the new. are you as familair with the new, which is where the fullness of the gospel is actually found? is the mosaic law good news?

 

[Vaudeville]

To the contrary! We are saying STUDY IT! Read the letter to the Galatians plainly for what it clearly says, not for what one man who spends 126 pages trying to force a Law-keeping paradigm into a short, 6 chapter letter which CLEARLY teaches the opposite!

-JGIG

and how evident it is.

 

[Vaudeville]

That is the goal, the fruit of the spirit. Do you see much of that fruit exhibited here? Sarcasm, magnifying another poster's misspelled words or grammar, laughing at others, trying to provoke...the list is endless and it is not that good fruit. ...not by any stretch of the imagination.

this is describing your posts. and i've only read several dozen.