A serious “Oh My God” moment is coming to the United States

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my view on the siege comming to america and others near you, very soon.

13And the Lord said, Even thus shall the children of Israel eat their defiled bread
among the Gentiles, whither I will drive them.

2Thou shalt burn with fire a third part in the midst of the city, when the days of the siege are fulfilled:
and thou shalt take a third part, and smite about it with a knife: and a third part thou shalt scatter in
the wind; and I will draw out a sword after them.

The siege of Judah, though it begins later and is much shorter,
will still destroy one third of the Jewish nation.

The sieges against Israel and Judah begin at different times, but both will end at the same time.
Why the siege against Judah is shorter is not stated

“Moreover he said unto me, Son of man, behold, I will break the staff of bread in Jerusalem:
and they shall eat bread by weight, and with care; and they shall drink water by measure, and with astonishment: That they may want bread and water, and be astonied one with another, and consume away for their iniquity”(verses 16-17).

“And thou, son of man, take thee a sharp knife, take thee a barber’s razor, and cause it to pass upon
thine head and upon thy beard: then take thee balances to weigh, and divide the hair.

Thou shalt burn with fire a third part in the midst of the city, when the days of the siege are fulfilled …” (verses 1-2).

When God says, “Thou shalt burn with fire a third part,” that concludes the siege.
The siege will keep intensifying until the cities burn with fire.

When it concludes, the economy will be absolutely destroyed!
Society will be burning with race wars, crime, chaos and murder.

This first third—including 100 million Americans—will experience atrocious deaths.
This siege is part of the “great tribulation” that Jesus Christ prophesied in Matthew 24:21.

“[A]nd thou shalt take a third part, and smite about it with a knife .…” This second third
of our peoples will be conquered militarily. This is a prophecy of a military attack.

When the siege ends, then comes the attack. Life for the surviving Americans, Britons and Jews
gets a lot worse. America is already weak and bitterly divided today; once that division explodes into
widespread violence, it will be easy for a foreign power to lay siege to it—and then to attack.


Many other prophecies show this attack will leave cities without inhabitant! This implies nuclear holocaust.
Hosea 5:5 says America, Britain and Judah will fall together—which refers to the military attack,

the second third of Ezekiel 5:2. After more than 100 million people die in the siege,
more than 100 million will die by the sword.

What happens to the final third? “[A]nd a third part thou shalt scatter in the wind; and I will draw out a sword after them” (verse 2). God says that after the attack, the one in three who are still alive will be forcibly removed from their homeland, taken captive and enslaved. By this point many of the larger cities will be left without a single inhabitant!

So most of these enslaved survivors will have to come from more rural areas.

Deuteronomy 28 is the “blessings and curses” chapter. In it, God promises many wonderful blessings if our
nations would obey Him. “[T]he Lord thy God will set thee on high above all nations of the earth,”
it says, “and thou shalt lend unto many nations, and thou shalt not borrow” (verses 1, 12).

Is America experiencing this blessing today? This nation is more than $18 trillion in debt!

“The stranger [Gentiles] that is within thee shall get up above thee very high;
and thou shalt come down very low” (Deuteronomy 28:43).

and he shall besiege thee in all thy gates throughout all thy land,
which the Lord thy God hath given thee” (verse 52).

Notice Deuteronomy 29:14-15: “Neither with you only do I make this covenant and this oath;
But with him that standeth here with us this day before the Lord our God,
and also with him that is not here with us this

“Your country is desolate, your cities are burned with fire: your land, strangers [Gentiles]
devour it in your presence, and it is desolate, as overthrown by strangers” (verse 7).


Protection

God’s prophecy for Ezekiel continues: “Thou shalt also take thereof a few in number,
and bind them in thy skirts” (Ezekiel 5:3). Here is a little group of people who
will be protected, as if they are tucked away on God’s person.

God protects them from the siege, the attack and the scattering mentioned in verse 2.

After all this destruction, people will be humbled and ashamed—and they will get to know God!
Ezekiel talked about that over and over again: They are going to get to know God
(e.g. Ezekiel 6:7; 7:4; 11:10; 12:20; 13:9; 23:48-49; etc.).
 
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I think the 4 horsemen of the Apocalypse are already running and increasing in deception, bloodshed,
certain economic failure, with diseases and continuing to gain more strength every day.
yes my view is Christ unlocked first horse, at about same time his church started.

mat. mark and luke recorded the olive disclosure,
but John recorded it as the 4 horsemen.


many will come in my name- Christ-inity- many denomations.
saying here is the way to heaven, romans then vatacin doctrine, and many daughters
 

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For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh.
This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come,
even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God:
and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come;

and even now already is it in the world.
 
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then take the old testament ,out your bible and take it back. to the people the romans stole these books by war.
that why he never responded.
If I had a Hall of Shame wall to post some of the stupidest stuff I've seen online, this would have it's own special place.
 
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i am already laughing it off, the difference between a stupid question and a profound question to you is block them, and try to
try bring false understanding and justification to your own actions.


there is you problem , it was never used for entrapment, but to show the difference between what paul said..here
13 And the rest of the Jews acted hypocritically along with him, so that even Barnabas was led astray by their hypocrisy.Galatians 2

we are gentiles.

the problem with fruit pickers , they dont understand the meaning of forgive to be forgiven.

how can a double edge sword produce a one sided fruit.

0 For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, "Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them."11 Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for "The righteous shall live by faith."12 But the law is not of faith, rather "The one who does them shall live by them."13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us---for it is written, "Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree"---14 so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith.

3 Now before faith came, we were held captive under the law, imprisoned until the coming faith would be revealed.24 So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith.25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian,26 for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith.27



and if the law is a school teacher ,what kind of school teacher is it to be, ie history teacher, or action teacher.


when did it say use someone else s heart, soul or strength or mind. but your own.
27 And he answered, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself."

35 But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil.36 Be merciful, even as your Father is merciful.Luke 6

i could go on. just because you disagree with an other, it dose not stop you being a part of the body of christ.
in his blindness ,only go s to show what fruit he will reap.



1 "Judge not, that you be not judged.2 For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you
Well, okay then. I am now doubly happy to not have that Wall of Shame wall, simply because this would take an extra large frame to add to the collection.

Absolutely no chance you see how incredibly judgemental you are while pointing at someone else, right?

I've got no problems with judging, however some sense of reality is required to judge. I'll be going with Just-me on this decision. Which, technically serves you well, otherwise you wouldn't be on this site anymore, because you'd be reported off long ago.

(Oh, and my apologize for not doing the whole bold some, increase size for others, underlining, and long windedness to round it out, but I hope this paragraph makes you feel better.)
 
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I'm really not into the whole "America is so very important in God's plans for some kind of prophetic doomsday scenario" thingy, however, just curious. (I don't remember who said it, but it's apparently because I'm Protestant. Kind of weird, since the only ones who aren't Protestants, but claim they believe in the Bible are the Catholics, but, well, okay. So, I'm Protestant.)

In the US this weekend, we had at least one of everything weather wise -- a blizzard, tornadoes, tropical storm, heatwave, floods, forest fires, and even hail. Is that anything in this End-Times timeline to you?
 
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What many fail to realize is that there are 2 tribulation periods....FIRST to the Jew....and then also to the Nations. When you look at all the gospel accounts you will see the First tribulation to the Jews began with the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple Mount as Jesus said, and then began the tribulation of "those days" for the Jews.

So when the Lord said "after the tribulation of those days" He was not referring to what many people refer to as the "Great Tribulation" and wrath that is to come upon the whole world. That starts after the tribulation of those days and the 6th seal=Wrath of God upon the whole world, or time of trouble upon the whole world as mentioned in Daniel.

Notice the 6th seal sign(powers of heaven shaken) happens "after the tribulation of those days"

[SUP]29 [/SUP]Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: (6th seal)

Luke's account confirms the tribulation of those days to the Jews and also the fullness of the Gentiles speaking of the same time frame, with the 6th seal sign being the marker which signifies the end of the first tribulation period of the Jews, and the beginning of the time of trouble such as "the world" has never seen, or beginning of the wrath of God upon the whole world.


Notice "they" is referring to the Jews in Luke 21:24-26....[SUP]24 [/SUP]And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
[SUP]26 [/SUP]Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. (6th seal)

I think Matthew 24:29 is clearly referring to the great tribulation in the last days. It is clear that Jesus is referring to this previous statement He made; quoting.............

Matthew 24:[SUP]21 [/SUP]For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Not only that, before Jesus' explanations, the disciples wanted to know the signs of Christ's return to earth, and the end of the world. So Jesus gave them the information.

Matthew 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

Then Jesus continues, referring to what we read in verse 21 as "the tribulation of those days." He is not referring to AD 70, for to us that is past, and He hasn't returned yet, plus the "end of the world" hasn't happened yet either. Verses 30 and 31 explain His return in relation to 1 Corinthians 15:51-54, and 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

Matthew 24:29a Immediately after the tribulation of those days

There is no other way to take this other than verse 29 is referring to the "great tribulation when reading verse 21 in relation to Jesus' explanations.

Now, back to the thread subject. Obama has finally revealed that his religion is Muslim. He doesn't care to treat Israel as an ally and, for the most part, has rejected Israel, and hung them out to dry (as the phrase goes). This is a curse in Biblical terms. God promises that those who bless Israel will be blessed, and those that curse Israel will be cursed. I believe the United States was blessed being the first nation to recognize Israel's statehood back in 1948, but now things have drastically change from that time in history. Because of this, I believe the fate of the United States is sealed, and it certainly doesn't look pretty when taking all current events into account.
 
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I think Matthew 24:29 is clearly referring to the great tribulation in the last days. It is clear that Jesus is referring to this previous statement He made; quoting.............

Matthew 24:[SUP]21 [/SUP]For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Not only that, before Jesus' explanations, the disciples wanted to know the signs of Christ's return to earth, and the end of the world. So Jesus gave them the information.

Matthew 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

Then Jesus continues, referring to what we read in verse 21 as "the tribulation of those days." He is not referring to AD 70, for to us that is past, and He hasn't returned yet, plus the "end of the world" hasn't happened yet either. Verses 30 and 31 explain His return in relation to 1 Corinthians 15:51-54, and 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

Matthew 24:29a Immediately after the tribulation of those days

There is no other way to take this other than verse 29 is referring to the "great tribulation when reading verse 21 in relation to Jesus' explanations.
You need to look at all the gospel accounts to understand when this time of tribulation started for the Jews, which is right after the abomination of desolation was set up. To say the abomination of desolation has not happened yet, and is still yet future, is also to deny many other parts of scripture and also historical accounts concerning what happened in 70 ad. That doctrine of a future Temple is deception and confusion, and is based on lies and theories of carnally minded men like a 7 year tribulation theory.

Be not deceived, harden not your heart, ask the Lord for guidance and look at all the scriptures and piece it together.

The abomination of desolation ties all the accounts into one, notice the mention of "those days" and when they begin....

Matthew 24:15-19[SUP]15 [/SUP]When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

Compare all gospel accounts.....



Matthew 24:19
And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

Mark 13:17
But woe to them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

Luke 21:23
But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.

All the accounts are in harmony concerning when "those days" start, but Luke confirms who the people are whom Jesus is referring to...which is the Jews!


Romans 2:9
Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

Tribulation was determined on the Jews first, and has already happened and been ongoing "till the fullness of the Gentiles comes in." But "after the tribulation of those days" God Almighty shall shake the heavens and the earth and bring GREAT WRATH upon the entire world!
 
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Yeah, thats what I do take all the gospels and look at them together because one might add in more info

In Mark this way (standing "where it ought not")


Mark 13:14
But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet,
standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand )

**then** let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

Again in Mathew this way (stand "in the holy place")


Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand )

Mat 24:16 **Then** let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

In Luke this way ( Jerusalem compassed with armies then know the desolation thereof is nigh)

Luke 21:20 And **when** ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, **then** know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

Luke 21:21 **Then** let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains...

Luke 21:22
For these be
the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

As Jesus was to...

Isaiah 61:2
To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD (fulfilled in Luke 4:19) and the day of vengeance of our God; ( is spoken of in Luke 21:22 inclusive of all previous to it) and to comfort all that mourn;


 
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You need to look at all the gospel accounts to understand when this time of tribulation started for the Jews, which is right after the abomination of desolation was set up. To say the abomination of desolation has not happened yet, and is still yet future, is also to deny many other parts of scripture and also historical accounts concerning what happened in 70 ad. That doctrine of a future Temple is deception and confusion, and is based on lies and theories of carnally minded men like a 7 year tribulation theory.

Be not deceived, harden not your heart, ask the Lord for guidance and look at all the scriptures and piece it together.

The abomination of desolation ties all the accounts into one, notice the mention of "those days" and when they begin....

Matthew 24:15-19[SUP]15 [/SUP]When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

Compare all gospel accounts.....



Matthew 24:19
And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

Mark 13:17
But woe to them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

Luke 21:23
But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.

All the accounts are in harmony concerning when "those days" start, but Luke confirms who the people are whom Jesus is referring to...which is the Jews!


Romans 2:9
Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

Tribulation was determined on the Jews first, and has already happened and been ongoing "till the fullness of the Gentiles comes in." But "after the tribulation of those days" God Almighty shall shake the heavens and the earth and bring GREAT WRATH upon the entire world!
All I am advocating is that Jesus was telling His disciples what to watch for so we would know when His second coming is close, and the information given to know that the end of the world (as we know it) will be. I didn't even mention the abomination of desolation. I will again post what I actually wrote.

I think Matthew 24:29 is clearly referring to the great tribulation in the last days. It is clear that Jesus is referring to this previous statement He made; quoting.............

Matthew 24:[SUP]21 [/SUP]For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Not only that, before Jesus' explanations, the disciples wanted to know the signs of Christ's return to earth, and the end of the world. So Jesus gave them the information.

Matthew 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

Then Jesus continues, referring to what we read in verse 21 as "the tribulation of those days." He is not referring to AD 70, for to us that is past, and He hasn't returned yet, plus the "end of the world" hasn't happened yet either. Verses 30 and 31 explain His return in relation to 1 Corinthians 15:51-54, and 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

Matthew 24:29a Immediately after the tribulation of those days

There is no other way to take this other than verse 29 is referring to the "great tribulation when reading verse 21 in relation to Jesus' explanations.
 
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Yeah, thats what I do take all the gospels and look at them together because one might add in more info

In Mark this way (standing "where it ought not")


Mark 13:14
But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet,
standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand )

**then** let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

Again in Mathew this way (stand "in the holy place")


Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand )

Mat 24:16 **Then** let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

In Luke this way ( Jerusalem compassed with armies then know the desolation thereof is nigh)

Luke 21:20 And **when** ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, **then** know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

Luke 21:21 **Then** let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains...

Luke 21:22
For these be
the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

As Jesus was to...

Isaiah 61:2
To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD (fulfilled in Luke 4:19) and the day of vengeance of our God; ( is spoken of in Luke 21:22 inclusive of all previous to it) and to comfort all that mourn;
Yes, taking all scripture into account is very important.