A study on the ten commandments
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2) Should we still obey all of the commandments today?
JesusLives Reply
What does Jesus say?
John 14:~15"If you love Me, you will keep My commandments. 16"I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever;
Even in the end of the verse He is saying He will pray and ask God to send us a Helper - the Holy Spirit which enables us to keep them when HS is dwelling within us.
Titus 3:5King James Version (KJV)[SUP]5 [/SUP]Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
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3) Why is it in revelations the ark of the coventant which holds the ten commandments is seen in Gods throne room? If the ten commandments are part of the mosaic law where is the rest of the 600 laws?
JesusLives Reply
Revelation 11: 19And the temple of God which is in heaven was opened; and the ark of His covenant appeared in His temple, and there were flashes of lightning and sounds and peals of thunder and an earthquake and a great hailstorm.
Hebrews 9:4 states that the Ark contained "the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tablets of the covenant.
I am not sure that Revelation stated the contents of the Ark of the Covenant but the contents are listed in Hebrews. The only tablets I know of were the 10 Commandments written on stone.
I know that when Jesus died that the sacrificial laws were not effective anymore because Jesus was our sacrifice and we no longer need to kill animals for the remission of sin. Jesus paid the ultimate sacrifice for us. I don't know about the 600 mosaic laws and admit I don't know or have all the answers.
Romans 5:~[SUP]18 [/SUP]Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people. [SUP]19 [/SUP]For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.
Also it is totally awesome that you can admit that! :-D a sign of true humility.
4) why were the ten commandments set apart written by Gods own hand in stone and then put in a really pretty box?
JesusLives Reply
I don't know.....They had to be special otherwise why did God take the time to write them Himself? I see the 10 as the rules of God's government. The first four show our love and loyalty toward God and the last six show our love toward our fellow man. The two commandments that Jesus said summarized the 10.
Matthew 22:37-40New International Version (NIV)[SUP]37 [/SUP]Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[SUP][a][/SUP] [SUP]38 [/SUP]This is the first and greatest commandment. [SUP]39 [/SUP]And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[SUP][b][/SUP] [SUP]40[/SUP]All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
5) What is an idol?
JesusLives Reply
~an image or representation of a god used as an object of worship. Anything you put in place of God to worship or esteem as more important than. Could be and object, person, etc. God wants the number one place in our hearts not second place.
Exodus 20:4"You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth.
L
I can read the same law and see the spirit of the law not the letter of the law. You seem to be trying to change what you said that you follow what you think the Holy Spirit tells you. There is a doctrine going around where people teach because we have the Holy Spirit we do not need the Bible. Looks like you teach this dangerous doctrine as well.
6) Does the second commandment still apply today? If so how? (the second command talks about not bowing to gods made to look like Gods creation)
JesusLives Reply
Exodus 20:[SUP]4 [/SUP]“You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. [SUP]5 [/SUP]You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, [SUP]6 [/SUP]but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.
God still wants our love and devotion today He wants us to love Him with all our hearts.
Matthew 22:37And He said to him, "'YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.'
That would be a lethal doctrine to say if we have the holy spirit we don't need the bible. I have read the bible through three times, the NT at least fifty times and carious other OT books at different times. The bible is the only book I read
I am not changing anything. I have been consistent in what I have told you, but you ignore most of what i write, but I keep plodding on
I am not changing anything. I have been consistent in what I have told you, but you ignore most of what i write, but I keep plodding on
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1) Yes the moral/Spiritual aspects of the 10 Commandments still apply, the Sabbath is no longer observed as a day.
Our Sabbath rest is in Jesus.
Coveting should be discussed, and Paul even held in teachings not to cover.
2)Yes by walking in LOVE
3) The 10 Commandments are both contained as God's moral laws and also as ordinances.
Only the written ordinances was done away with, not the moral. The rest was all ordinances.
4) They are God's moral law which is why they were set apart.
5) An idol is anything you place before God as more important to you.
6) Yes the 2nd command does apply. Paul speaks against idol worship in 1Corinthians
7) To covet means to want what somebody else has.
Learn by the Holy Spirit to be content with what we have.
8) Born again with the Holy Spirit no they are not hard to keep.
The impossible approach is something we can't do by ourselves, and applys to the whole written ordinances of the Mosaic law.
It does not apply to the moral, and no the moral and written are not the same.
Our Sabbath rest is in Jesus.
Coveting should be discussed, and Paul even held in teachings not to cover.
2)Yes by walking in LOVE
3) The 10 Commandments are both contained as God's moral laws and also as ordinances.
Only the written ordinances was done away with, not the moral. The rest was all ordinances.
4) They are God's moral law which is why they were set apart.
5) An idol is anything you place before God as more important to you.
6) Yes the 2nd command does apply. Paul speaks against idol worship in 1Corinthians
7) To covet means to want what somebody else has.
Learn by the Holy Spirit to be content with what we have.
8) Born again with the Holy Spirit no they are not hard to keep.
The impossible approach is something we can't do by ourselves, and applys to the whole written ordinances of the Mosaic law.
It does not apply to the moral, and no the moral and written are not the same.
L
What is the law of Christ? It is the ten commandments since Jesus is the I AM. Your problem is you seem to have a limited knowledge of the law. You see the law as a set of rules, the letter of the law rather than looking at the ten commandments and seeing the spirit of the law. The law is spiritual.
