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Romans 9:18 "Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens."
 
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Romans 9:18 "Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens."
This is one of the verses that many have a hard time with.....God being eternal and outside the realm of time has the unique ability to see all things, including those who will reject his truth and or his SON.....just like Pharaoh of the Exodus....Pharaoh hardened his heart the first couple of times against Moses and God....Then God took over and hardened his heart further that He might use Pharaoh and Egypt to make it known that the God of the Israelites was and is the one true God......while also making a mockery of the gods (with a small g) of Egypt!
 
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No doubt...what hasn't humanity screwed up in all reality......HAH!
More eternal truth that is written......

Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his MERCY has he SAVED US..........
 
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More truth that is written....

He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not on the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Abideth is written in a tense that means....The wrath of God is continually, presently abiding over ALL who have not believed in the SON....Trust Jesus before you take your last breath...before it is too late!
 
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More eternal truth that is written......

Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his MERCY has he SAVED US..........
Exactly true. I hope I NEVER get what I deserve.
 
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The hard truths are the truths rejected the most. Hard truths are thrown aside but hard truths are actually what save us.
 
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I am in agreement with you. I am not seeking fairness but desire mercy and compassion.
Amen to this...if we got what we deserved it would be hell to pay........Where sin abounds...GRACE did much more abound...thank God for that for sure.......!
 
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The hard truths are the truths rejected the most. Hard truths are thrown aside but hard truths are actually what save us.
No doubt...many cannot receive the hard, deep things of God especially if they call for change in our lives......!
 
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Hard truth.....Jesus endured more pain and suffering in a short time than we will ever encounter in a lifetime. And he gave Himself to that willingly.
 

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Hard truth.....Jesus endured more pain and suffering in a short time than we will ever encounter in a lifetime. And he gave Himself to that willingly.
Heb 12:4 Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.
 
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Hard truth...we cannot ever in any way save ourselves.
 
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Heb 12:4 Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.
Most would fold and deny Christ if they had to endure pain and blood letting for the cause....most are ashamed to witness and claim him for fear of rejection and or being made fun of!
 
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Hard truth...we cannot ever in any way save ourselves.
Amen to this one as well, although many claim to have that ability.....I will rely upon Jesus, because if he cannot save me to the UTTERMOST....then I/WE are in deep do-do!
 
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Another truth that is written.....

This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

The word perilous means difficult, dangerous, by implication...furious, fierce and perilous.......

Watch the news one day and it is obvious we are there......!